Any poll is only small sample of a population. Sure you may argue weather or not it’s a reresentative sample. But unless data is collected on everyone on trt that’s all your ever going to get. That is thrown up by everyone that doesn’t like a study or poll’s result.
Also it is, in fact, evidence in support of his claim, yeah there’s some some bias in the population choice and who responded and the error bars may be wider than you like, but it is evidence.
I was going to send the emails to you. Not Dr. Saya. Read more carefully.
It is to demonstrate that I have no monetary interest in this TRT thing of any kind. It is literally done for free. If I was living on welfare I could understand. Not the case.
I’m not sure your comments refute the quoted text.
Like I said, it is SOME form of evidence which is a lot better than ZERO evidence. Of course I realize it is a small sample size. Do you guys have a bigger one we can look at? Can systemlord provide anything resembling evidence? That’s my damn point. I said that, in my group, this is what I’m seeing. I made a poll and, sure enough, it demonstrated what I’m seeing. I can also say that everyone that emails me outside of the group also closely resembles the numbers on this poll.
At least I’m providing SOMETHING.
I agree, this was posted in support of you.
Especially since you limited your claim to what you’re seeing in your group, it’s even stronger evidence than I was thinking.
It is a poor sample size and represents a very, very small percentage of men and can’t be passed off as typical.
I made this mistake as well, I allowed myself to become compromised with Jay Campbell even though I knew better, but he had a Youtube channel as well, over time I snapped out if it.
Are you freaking kidding me, really? If anything this poll is tainted and bias. Please snap out of it already!
Said everyone who didn’t like the evidence presented to them, ever.
@systemlord for the last goddamned time are you going to provide any evidence for anything or are you just going to keep disagreeing with everyone like a child?
Post something. Anything. Give us some evidence. Post a photo. Do SOMETHING because we’re all getting rather tired of this nonsense. At least when someone asks me for something I try my best to provide what I can.
You’ve provided no evidence yourself, just within your FB group. I can go to Excelmale and hand pick the participants for my poll of a member base predominantly of men <1000 ng/dl or <30 pg/mL.
I guarantee you the results will be the opposite.
This is essentially the same retort a flat earther would give.
I provided something. You provided nothing. I’m not ‘hand picking’ anything and I don’t appreciate the false accusation.
Provide something, because you still have not (other than the continued bullshit).
WILL YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE. Yes or no??
Defy will never interview with you. They are in business with empower pharmacy hence all the men defy started on an AI script where empower dispenses .1 and .125 mg caps.
Men use to post protocols from defy always ai. Then ai was turning negative (esp after late Dr cristler thought maybe ai is bad)and they still prescribed ai but state only take it if you need it.
I wasn’t started out on an AI.
Spoiler alert: I have zero interest in interviewing anyone from Defy.
I’ve spoken to MANY men from there, seen their protocols, and it isn’t pretty half the time. The other half are reasonable.
Probably because you told them you did not want. System admit all the protocols from guys that got ai shipped to their house. You read them all am sure.
I agree. They are the definition of a testosterone Mill.
Defy will also prescribe deca now and several other things that most docs will consider to not be TRT.
It’s a money making machine. Period.
At this point, it’s quite clear he’s not going to. But he “could”… but he’s choosing not to.
Getting the thread back to the original topic, or as close to it as possible, would be best.
All members are certainly welcome to refute any claims/advice they see made on the forum, whether it’s about TRT protocols, squat technique, fat loss diets, or whatever. But it’s expected that arguments will be presented in an intelligent manner, without devolving into “am too, am not, am too, am not” childishness.
And, as always, common sense would dictate that an individual vet the reputation and background of any member they choose to advice from. I’ve said time and again that someone should start a TRT Credentials thread where members can post their own backgrounds and histories for regular reference by others. I simply haven’t had the energy or time to do it.
@Chris_Colucci A photo of the person would be great for starters. A Facebook profile. Something to demonstrate who they are.
If that was the case, systemlord would be irrelevant here.
If you only knew the things I did to myself, years ago, taking this guy’s advice when I was a newb. I won’t let that happen to anyone else. I just won’t.