Yes, I did run an AI. Apparently I am a hard aromatizer, even with low BF. I don’t think I got any E2 relief from bold cyp, if anything I think it may have contributed to my gyno.
It’s a damn shame you responded that way, I guess you just aren’t a 19-nor type of guy.
unfortunately I don’t think I am. I may be overreacting to the minor sides based on some of the horror stories I’ve heard. Whenever I’ve taken them is when I’ve really seen changes quickly unfortunately. 19-nors are the real deal.
That’s because MENT is not nearly as estrogenic as people think. On my trt protocol of 2mg/d I should probably have been taking exogenous estrogen. I may well do that next time around. It’s not the e2 bomb that it’s made out to be at low doses. And the gyno that guys get is almost certainly progesterone-mediated, which is why nobody ends up solving it with an AI.
My sleep is fine on MENT with one caveat: if I’m on my best behavior I sleep ok and only wake up to pee a few times during the night. But God help me if I eat carbs after 8:00pm. I sweat at a volume and intensity that reminds me of my days as a college student doing landscaping work in August. It’s brutal. It’s worse now that the cold has arrived, because my wife insists that 68° is the proper temperature for the house to be at night and I…do not agree.
WTF!!! My wife is the same way!!! If it reads under 70f she thinks she going hypothermic!!
One more thing to add, hair loss increased at a rate faster than I saw on Primo, but I am prone to it. I’m assuming its the total androgen load since its so strong.
Do you guys have a programable thermostat? My wife is the same, I wait until she changes it hotter then use my phone to turn it down so I can sleep!
We keep it at 64 F at night. My wife uses a smaller blanket on top of the comforter on her side of the bed. Works out pretty well, as we are both at a good temperature. I also have a fan on at full blast that mostly hits my side of the bed.
Wanted to update this thread with my recent experiences. I did drop the MENT early on. The hair loss was what scared me. I was wrong about MENT causing insomnia. I took some anastrozole and it got better, I think it was E2 related. After dropping the MENT, I increased my Test C to 80mgs per day so 560/wk. A few weeks later I tried to add back in Tren A at 15/mg/day or 105 per week. This made a manageable 55mL injection daily, rotating each delt, lat, glute, and quad. This dose works just fine for me, enough to notice a difference over TC alone with limited sides outside of increased time to climax. Because of this I only added 20mg of oxandrolone for the last few weeks since that causes the same issue. It was a good addition at that dose. I didn’t gain a lot of weight but had some great strength increases. Working sets for barbell rows for example went from 205# x 12 to 245# for 10, bench 205# for 12 to 225# for 10, and some other isolation improvements. Should be much more manageable to drop it before this summer. I hit the same max bench at 185 that at did 205 last winter bulk.
So, even though Tren is not a mild anabolic, 105mgs/wk works fine for me. I notice no more gains on 500mgs of test than I did at higher doses >800mgs/wk. Mentally outside of the shit show that is life, no adverse effects. With the high frequency of TRT bloods, I can only do these short 10 wk blasts. I will blast this again in the future, 500 mg Test C, 105 mg Tren A per wk, with 20mg oxandrolone per day last 4 wks with possible 2iu HGH throughout.
Last edit: I did have a cold during this blast and some in my house did get COVID so we monitored O2 saturation. On Tren my 02 was only at 95%, a few days off I was back up to 98%. My stats were worse than those with COVID. No additional Tren cough outside of the chest cold, so clearly the tren cough is additional cardiopulmonary strain causing insufficiency and fluid build up.