I can say the same to you not accepting something that you dont yet or different of what ou have seen so far
When you understand the science, delusions become easy to spot. You also havenāt found anyone here reporting that they IMMEDIATELY feel the effects of the testosterone they just injected, have you. Your theories and opinion are irrelvant.
I feel pretty good the last week and Im still only 3 weeks into the protocol.
Im quickly headed there. Since day one I knew this protocol with this ester would work. I expect to achieve feeling best after 3-4 weeks, If I need to adjust the dose again to hit good levels for me that may slow it down a bit. But I will be fine dont worry about me, and not because of your advice but despite it.
Despite my advice of insisting that you stick with a protocol for 6-8 weeks and not touch anything, as you are finally doing? Despite THAT advice? Why wait that long? You FEEL the effects right away so you should only need a few days to get dialed in?
Jesus Christ youāre a piece of work.
Iāll bet my house youāre not dialed in in 3-4 weeks.
The issue with this line of argument is that one can come back with that the esters and how much of each ester was designed to work (give stable levels) on once a week shots, which I believe to be true.
Then you would have to show that to not be the case, or at least that pinning sust ED or EOD was resulted in more stable blood levels, and that more stable blood levels are good for all men on TRT. It is hard to do all of this, which is why there is very little one size fits all. It is playing around to find what works.
We can already demonstrate that ED or EOD is NOT ideal for all men, in particular with high SHBG guys who typically do worse on frequent injections.
Again your sentence here is wrong. I dont say ed or eod is ideal for all men, I say just sustanon should be used this way. Sustanon is completely different than cyp and en but you continue to treat them the same way
I agree. There isnāt a great argument that I am aware of to support the claim that Sust should be pinned ED or EOD only. I was just playing devilās advocate and trying to make the strongest argument while listing that argumentās downfalls.
Just sustanon should be taken ED or EOD?
Do you already have your own shovel or do I need to provide you with one?
I think its not just stability of levels. The issue with sustanon is if you inject large dose at once, lets say the whole damn ampule except that your levels will fall more or less until next injection the problem is the fall is NOT linear and stable like with the single esters.
All my budies here doing TRT use sustanon and all of them started with once a week and eventually tried twice a week and EOD or daily. Everyone was feeling bettter on more frequent injections
Yes exactly. It has nothing to do with cyp or enanthate, totally different product and mechanism of action.
Where can I send the shovel? Does Fedex deliver where you live?
I had no idea that only Sustanon should be pinned ED or EOD and nothing else. Itās amazing how much you can learn when you embrace bro-science.
So, Sustanon should never be injected once weekly even if very high SHBG? Right? Cypionate and Enanthate should never be injected ED or EOD even if very low SHBG? Right?
Anyone reading this stuff from this idiot: This is āHow not to do TRT 101ā
Tell me why Im back in that time-wasting debate with you? I came back for the other guy who shows a bit understanding of few simple ideas that seem to evade you
Can you answer the questions I just asked? Because I would LOVE to see your answers. Iām trying my best to embrace the bro-science.
No Im not wasting more time with you for now bye, I prefer to watch a movie
Of course notā¦ because I know you found your shovel several hours ago and the hole you have dug is so deep you will never see the light of day again.
Sustanon pinned eod is a good protocol for a cycle or a blast. The point of cycling/blasting is to be at absurdly supraphysiological levels as much as possible for the length of the cycle.
Sustanon for trt is aiming for something entirely different. Thereās no one size fits all for how to administer it.
I was injecting Sustanon every 5 days. My doctor requested a blood test at 6 months on the day of injection, just before my injection. I wanted to know what my peak was as well so I took a blood test on day two after my injection as well. There was a 60% difference in my testosterone blood levels from day 2 to day 5. I have low SHBG. There is a well known doctor in the UK that states that you should be aiming for stable blood levels. Sustanon did not provide stable levels for me. Having said that, my sympton relief felt no different throughout the 5 days. I have since switched to daily cypionate subq injections.
So i am using Sustanon and calculated my dose of off 250mg/mlā¦ Does this mean i should calculate it based on 176mg/ml?
God i hate Sustanon.
This is the problem guys get into. Comparing Cycle doses to TRT doses matters. TRT doses with Sustanon are hugely different. If you are taking 125mg EOD, I get the EOD idea with Sustanon. Thatās 15mg of Prop EOD. 30mg of Prop EOD however, is 8.5mg a shot. Thatās practically homeopathic and simply negates that ester at that level. ED is even worse, 4.28mg a day. Itās a waste of time. There is a lot of hating on Sustanon for TRT, but most of the guys on it are not on here and are fine. I used it for a few months at one shot every two weeks. Felt great, but my trough was only 479 and I am a little better at weekly dosing with cypionate. But I am also getting more mgās per week this way than I was every two weeks on Sustanon. It seriously was easy and nice, just 3 times the cost. If my options were only Sustanon or Nebido, I am sure I would be taking Sustanon every 10 days and wondering what everyoneās problem is.
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