Low Dose Mast add on to TRT

[finkle_is_einhorn]

@cwbullock your post in an archived read was a great read and I had a few follows ups for you.

• you only took 75 mg of test a week?
• why mast prop over mast e?
• why add in Liquidex?
• did you have brain fog or low motivation (slow cognition) prior to this protocol?

I won’t bore you with my history but our backgrounds sound somewhat similar. I was on TRt for 3 years after an illness. I am a ex athlete approaching middle age so the last 18 months I added low dose primo in an effort to get a mood or energy lift (including libido). Libido wasn’t horrible but wasn’t great. Overall the trt helped me get healthy weight back on my frame. 1100 test. 22 estrogen. Low SHBG. Lipid profile looked fine. No elevated liver values.

Continuing the discussion from Masteron Only - Success!:

@cwbullock

This is an excellent thread. I felt that had to share my experience 2 reasons… 1) This approach works great! 2) There isn’t nearly as much out there for guys on TRT as there is for bodybuilding. Dont get me wrong… I workout and the results of combining masteron with testotosterone have been outstanding - lean muscle mass and increased strength. However, I was interested in this thread mainly from an androgenic standpoint…

Prior to reading this tread, I have been on 75mgs per week of testosteron enthanate to treat hypogonadism with all the classic syptoms of decreased libido, lethargy, lack of confidence, etc. It worked to a point. Testosterone levels were elevated from 180 to 750 (bloodwork taken 4 days after injection). I also experienced more energy, increased strength and was doing well from an anabolic standpoint (feeling it in the gym). However, I also noticed that Estradiol was also elevated to 40. In short, after 4 months of this treatment I wasn’t feeling it all androgenically (in the pants). I never seemed to want sex, never really thought about it much and overall confidence was still lacking.

So, after reading this and many other threads, I changed my weekly regime to include the following:
75mgs - pharmacuetical-grade Testosterone Enthanate (prescribed by my endocrinologist)
50mgs - Masteron Proprianate (Drostanolone Propionate)
.5ml - Liquidex (PER DAY)

Within two weeks time, confidence and libido rapidly returned. I have had no problems in the bedroom and my lady has been quite satisfied. Throw in a little cialis and I’ve been able to do things not possible even at 18 years old - multiple orgasms and sessions. My lady is all grins.

After changing regimes, my levels are: Testosterone - 1000, Estradiol - 22

In terms of my stats, I’m a 37 year old male - 200lbs.

Hope this helps with other folks with a similar issues and desired results. Thanks BBB and KSAM for all of the great and extremely helpful information. This is a living testament to your insights/ posts.

[blshaw]

Mast / DHTs are not something I would personally run long term simply for the fact they they tank your lipids.

[disciplined_trt]

I have a friend running 30mg/week of Mast Prop with 125mg/week Test E who saw very significant improvements in motivation, sex drive and confidence as well as a significant decrease in water retention.

Most people will tell you AAS are useless unless you’re taking 500mg+ per week but that’s nonsense, especially if you’re after the mood, drive and cognition benefits.

Also no impact for him at 30mg/week on health markers (including HDL/LDL) but that’s very individual as with everything else when it comes to hormones. Definitely keep an eye on those values as well as hematocrit, blood pressure, etc…

He also told me when he raised the Mast to 50mg/week he started having low E symptoms and feeling like shit so be careful with that. I would start at a 3 to 1 or even 4 to 1 ratio of Test to Mast and see how you feel.