[quote]Jin wrote:
I believe that a tough guy never has to show or prove he’s tough…but if you do nothing (or keep doing nothing), you will lose all respect from anyone that knows you and most likely, lose a ton of respect for yourself.[/quote]
I agree. Real bad asses don’t ever have to prove it. In fact, the majority of real tough guys I have known, totally didn’t act like it. They were really friendly, down to Earth guys that you just want to have a beer with.
But when push comes to shove, you have to respond in a way that will guarantee that no one will mess with you ever again. Destroy any hopes that they have of ever being respected by their peers. You must serve them what they obviously need, you have to make them cower in your presence, fear your very existence, wince when they hear your name. You must unleash a fury of hate, pain, and suffering that they will NEVER recover from. You must confront them, and annihilate.
Take their manhood from them, and make them watch you turn it into vapor. Laugh when they cry. Ignore their pleas for mercy. Show NO EMOTION as you unleash a tidal wave of terror on them that they will not believe. MAKE THEM KISS THE BOTTOM RUNG. MAKE THEM SORRY. You must. Nothing compares to the feeling you get from absolutely, and utterly obliterating your enemy.
Agreed with everyone: stand up to them now, or deal with them being douchebags to you for the rest of your highschool career.
However, as you’re from Ontario as well and are subject to the draconian rules that govern schools, make sure that you’re hit first, with witnesses.
Then respond in turn, but avoid killing the kid: the law says that you’re entitled to defend yourself with the equivalent level of force you were attacked with plus one - meaning, if the guy smacks you in the nose, you can’t wind up caving his skull in with a brick, only knocking him down so you can walk away.
However, even then, you’ll probably still get punished for it: suspension or expulsion’s the usual thing. And think it over: Seriously, you don’t want to get expelled over something as stupid as this: you’re still a kid, and you’ve got a future (university, etc): an expulsion’s going to take you out of the running for that pretty quick.
That, or do it off school property - and make sure you’ve got witnesses: one, so you can be sure that you’ve got a defense if it gets to be a legal matter, and two, so people know you’re not to be fucked with, as you’re the guy who broke dickhead’s nose.
I guess were are assuming that you can fight though, try not to get your ass kicked.
BTW, welcome to high school, kids like this are always gonna be around…this is why you need to stop worrying about losing weight and getting a six pack and instead start worrying about becoming one of the biggest (I mean muscle…not the fattest) mother fucker in your school.
When I coached at a high school I had one player suspended because she was in a fight, yet no punches were thrown. It usually does not matter who started it-and yeah, I think it is a bogus rule.
You have a couple of routes.
-You could talk to teachers about the harassment and the school has some liability to react. If these kids play a sport, more (or less) may be done.
-You could wait for one of them to start with you and kick his ass. The problem for you is this is your in high school and violence gets a big reaction. I would suggest going off campus but that might lead to an arrest (could at school as well). That said, my bully experience was in middle school and one day when the bully came up behind me and started giving me crap, I just turned in the crowd pushed him toward the wall and kept throwing body blows. No evidence, not sure anyone noticed, but that was the last day I was bullied.
Maybe next time when they start up, turn calmly but get in their face and keep walking towards him, moving him backwards, and calmly but forcefully ask him “How do you want this to end?” Repeat. Keep hands down but be ready.
I second the sentiment that some guys just need their asses kicked to set them straight. Best though if it can happen when they are younger, 10 or 12, before people start to really inflict damage on each other.
I see a few posts about people who would have started more fights if they could go back in time… if I could go back in time I would not care nearly as much about what people said about me. I know it’s tough at your age, not being comfortable who you are and all, but one day you’ll realize it doesn’t matter what other people who aren’t your friends say about you. I’d say kick their ass just because they sound like they deserve it, but honestly they wouldn’t make fun of you if they knew it didn’t bother you. If you can laugh at yourself than no one else can laugh at you.
Like others have said, call the fucker out. Don’t start the fight, don’t swing first. It’ll just look like their taunting got to you and encourage them. If you’re sure you can kick some ass, just get right in one of their faces and say something to the effect of “Fuck you, I’m sick of your shit, if you have such a problem with me take a fucking swing. Put up or shut up!” Do this in the hallway or cafeteria so other people can see. Make a fucking scene. Hell, let the whole school see you call this prick out. Just stay right in his face and keep talking. I really, really doubt he’ll have the balls to throw a punch. But if he does, then you get to kick his ass in self defense. More than likely, he’ll back up to get you out of his face or crack a joke, just step up and stay in his face and keep taunting him “come on tough guy! you talk a lot of shit, back it up” (or something like that, you get the idea). If you’re really lucky you might get him backed up against a wall or get him to turn away or look down in defeat and you can say something cool like you’re in a movie. Like “That’s what I thought. Fuckin pussy.” And just walk away feeling like you’re on top of the fucking world.
Chances are a teacher will break it up before you get to look that cool, and you might get detention or suspended for it. But whatever, you’ll have stood up for yourself. And after that, even if the kid does have the balls to keep talking shit, you’ll remember the feeling of being in his face, calling him out, and him backing down. That’s a fucking great feeling.
I agree. Tell them to put their money where their mouth is. Cause a huge scene. I know in HS, loud confrontations were broken up just a quickly as fights. Fights in school usually get broken up before you get to have any fun.
Another way to look at it, is its March. (well tomorrow is). You most likely have 3 months til summer, then 3 months over the summer. Use it to get bigger and stronger. Come back in the fall, if you make noticeable improvements, they will definitely respect you more… at least, enough not to try to fight you.
What ever approach you take with these little shits you need to stand up for yourself, you don’t have to fight them but make it clear you’re done with their shit. If you don’t stand up now you’ll be held down by everyone for the rest of your life. Man up and take care of your business.
This happened to a friend of mine in 9th grade. He lost a ton of weight, then he hit the weights and got pretty muscular by the time 11th grade rolled around.
Just take the insults and use it as fuel for your training sessions.
Don’t you have friends that can help stick up for you or at least support you?
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
This happened to a friend of mine in 9th grade. He lost a ton of weight, then he hit the weights and got pretty muscular by the time 11th grade rolled around.
Just take the insults and use it as fuel for your training sessions.
Don’t you have friends that can help stick up for you or at least support you?
DB[/quote]
What happened to the stare down and dance off? C’mon! Old Skool !
Also, back in HS, if a fight happened outside of school, you could still get in trouble for it in school. The reasoning behind it was that it started at school… BS or not, it happened.
I disagree, unless you have mucho friends and neutral people there this will not accomplish anything.
If you start winning, expect to get jumped by all of them if even one of them has the gonads to help his friend.
If you don’t win, expect no mercy. Kids are f’ing crazy these days. I don’t think you want to get curbed.
On another note, some of my best friends came from people I got in a fight with. My second thought is if possible, meaning you can defeat one of them easily (one that counts) do so but then try to be friendly after they are definitely down. That way maybe you could convert them to either friends that have learned a lesson or neutral people. Unless you want people with revenge motives after you.
You could complain to the school councilors or teachers and when that doesnt help then beat them(the bullies) up and say its because they(the teachers) didnt do anything to stop the harassment. Dont know if that will help, but if its successful it should, in theory at least, make the teachers look bad and make the bullies look bad.
I think the “Zero Tolerance” policies for fighting is stupid, Its put into place to stop bullying but i think it does more to enable it. There has been way more shootings since the establishment of said policies then before.
You could also try picking out their weaknesses and shooting back with your own jokes.
[quote]sen say wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
This happened to a friend of mine in 9th grade. He lost a ton of weight, then he hit the weights and got pretty muscular by the time 11th grade rolled around.
Just take the insults and use it as fuel for your training sessions.
Don’t you have friends that can help stick up for you or at least support you?
DB
What happened to the stare down and dance off? C’mon! Old Skool ![/quote]
Different friends. I kept a low profile in 9th grade. The dance-offs didn’t take place until late 10th grade and beyond. And believe me, they got real heated, like the one time Ray Ray got schooled and threw down his headband in disgust as he stormed out of the cafeteria.
Kick this kids fucking ass. I was the fat kid all through high school. Lucky for me I built up a good shield to names and other shit and was good as using humor to deflect anything negative away from me. Looking back a few years now I wish I would have beat the living shit out of half the people that had made fun of me. Just fuck his shit up and laugh in his face when he is on the ground crying. Will make your day. Oh then go work out.
hey dude, I was picked on back when i was in high school and it was even partly why I started to pick up weights. I really like the strong words posted not too ago.
Something to the effect of , Be courteous, obey the law , respect everyone , but if he lays a hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
Furthermore, there’s more to life than a couple years of high school. I know it’s hard now , but once you get past this and your in college, you’ll be a much stronger and better person knowing your out of the hell hole called high school. Plus, getting suspended will certainly not help you get into a good college, or internship or w/e…