Loosing Hair All Over Body - Help!

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn blocked by the Doc

Sorry Pat but you are not correct sir. Albuterol is a rescue inhaler and studies have shown that long term use has the opposite effect on lung tissue and lung performance actually decreases with repeated use.

I was a respiratory therapist and gave up my license when I got my masters in nursing so I am not just being contrary. [/quote]

Fair enough…
Was this effect from the inhaler or the drug itself. In other words was it the delivery or the drug that caused the respiratory issues? I am curious because of course it comes in a pill too… I have been out of the loop a bit.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn blocked by the Doc

Sorry Pat but you are not correct sir. Albuterol is a rescue inhaler and studies have shown that long term use has the opposite effect on lung tissue and lung performance actually decreases with repeated use.

I was a respiratory therapist and gave up my license when I got my masters in nursing so I am not just being contrary. [/quote]

Fair enough…
Was this effect from the inhaler or the drug itself. In other words was it the delivery or the drug that caused the respiratory issues? I am curious because of course it comes in a pill too… I have been out of the loop a bit. [/quote]

Only the inhaled version, the short acting bronchodilators over time just “wore” the system out. Now most pulmonary Docs use the long acting inhaled steroids and only use the short acting for acute asthma attacks. Now these of course were studies done on Asthma patients, but I would not want to test that on “healthy” lung tissue over long term.

However I will say that having a continuous elevated HR due to the pill form is not good for you either. Any stimulant that keeps you HR up will eventually cause cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart)

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn blocked by the Doc

Sorry Pat but you are not correct sir. Albuterol is a rescue inhaler and studies have shown that long term use has the opposite effect on lung tissue and lung performance actually decreases with repeated use.

I was a respiratory therapist and gave up my license when I got my masters in nursing so I am not just being contrary. [/quote]

Fair enough…
Was this effect from the inhaler or the drug itself. In other words was it the delivery or the drug that caused the respiratory issues? I am curious because of course it comes in a pill too… I have been out of the loop a bit. [/quote]

Only the inhaled version, the short acting bronchodilators over time just “wore” the system out. Now most pulmonary Docs use the long acting inhaled steroids and only use the short acting for acute asthma attacks. Now these of course were studies done on Asthma patients, but I would not want to test that on “healthy” lung tissue over long term.

However I will say that having a continuous elevated HR due to the pill form is not good for you either. Any stimulant that keeps you HR up will eventually cause cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart) [/quote]

I see…
For the record, I wasn’t saying it was healthy per se, but healthier than being on all that OTC shit with who knows what in it that also keeps your HR pumping high, all the time. And it’s more effective, the anecdotal evidence seems to back that up. I don’t recommend being on anything all the time. The piper will come to call eventually.

Stop taking the fat burners dude…

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn blocked by the Doc

Sorry Pat but you are not correct sir. Albuterol is a rescue inhaler and studies have shown that long term use has the opposite effect on lung tissue and lung performance actually decreases with repeated use.

I was a respiratory therapist and gave up my license when I got my masters in nursing so I am not just being contrary. [/quote]

Fair enough…
Was this effect from the inhaler or the drug itself. In other words was it the delivery or the drug that caused the respiratory issues? I am curious because of course it comes in a pill too… I have been out of the loop a bit. [/quote]

Only the inhaled version, the short acting bronchodilators over time just “wore” the system out. Now most pulmonary Docs use the long acting inhaled steroids and only use the short acting for acute asthma attacks. Now these of course were studies done on Asthma patients, but I would not want to test that on “healthy” lung tissue over long term.

However I will say that having a continuous elevated HR due to the pill form is not good for you either. Any stimulant that keeps you HR up will eventually cause cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart) [/quote]

I see…
For the record, I wasn’t saying it was healthy per se, but healthier than being on all that OTC shit with who knows what in it that also keeps your HR pumping high, all the time. And it’s more effective, the anecdotal evidence seems to back that up. I don’t recommend being on anything all the time. The piper will come to call eventually.

Stop taking the fat burners dude…[/quote]

Lol

Couldnt agree more this goes for any MEDICATION or SUPPLEMENT

[quote]Arthritisboy wrote:
I have been experiencing hair loss for several years now. I started back when i was around 19, it was very slight, but i noticed when i was about 20 that my hairline was definatley receeding and that the hair on top of my head had thinned along with the temples.

 Now, most people here i know are going to tell me, "its just genetic" but even though ive been to a few general diagnosticians, and a Dermatologist. I am not totally convinced. im not at all convinced actually( although i do concede to the idea that some of it could be hereditary)my moms dad went bald. but not at the rate i have.

 I used to take alot of bodybuilding supplements such as creatine, and fat burners like Hydroxycut, and ripped fuel, along with VPX redline. and it seemed that the hairloss coincided with the use of these products. and i also used a prosteroid one time call syngexII, from VPX.

around the time that i took the syngexII i noticed my hair changing color from almost black to a reddish hue. and i was also taking fat burners along with this.
so around 20 i basically freaked out and eliminated these products all together. but my hair was never the same.
over the years i managed to keep most of my hair. but the lure of the rush of taking fat burners soon overcame me and i was back to buying them. i couldn’t help it i was addicted. yet i went off them for another brief period. this was my early 20s, and i had noticed some thinning in my body hair!

being addicted to training and feeling like i needed a boost of energy was a real hard thing for me. i just missed the days when i could run and workout as a teen before i was ever introduced to ripped fuel by a friend. something ill regret forever.
In my mid 20s, from about age 22-25 i couldn’t help but take stuff like stacker 2 before training every day, just because of the energy, but i felt it was causing health issues and wanted to get off. finally at 25 i was able to shake the habit because i worked an outside job and it was so hot that taking anything like that would have dehydrated me to the point of death. yet i still drank coffee like i always had. and since i wasn’t taking the fat burners anymore i drank coffee like a maniac. the same skin flushing reaction i got from the fat burners happened with the coffee. and i noticed slowly more hair loss over time.

At this point in my life, im 27 and hair form all over my body, arms legs, my facial hair,

even my pubes , and hair between my asscheeks seems to be thinning. the only thing that seems to not have been hit as bad are my eyebrows, but i have no idea how long theyll hold out.
The dermatologist i went to did biopsies on my forearm and scalp and said it was due to “INFLAMMATION” ok… yes but form what? he then prescribed me a corticosteroid clobetasol proprionate, and said to try it on my arm, i did , but the most this drug did was make me tired. I told this mother fucking doctor that hair from my whole body was falling out, but he didnt seem to listen. he just left me with" its male patern baldness. mother fucker…
Im like, dont i need a blood test for autoimmune disorders and shit? cmon for christs sake.
ive given up coffee, and im now on wellbutrin or buproprion sr, which is said to thin hair. but im so depressed i need meds. fuck i dont know what to do, i know this post is super long and not written very well. Does anyone know anything about this, what kind of Doc should i go see. there is definatley something wrong with my body. i dont want to end up a hairless freak. Im going to go to every expert i can to find out whats wrong. PLEASE IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING HELP!

Thanks,[/quote]
Clasic deadlift deficet syndrom.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn blocked by the Doc

Sorry Pat but you are not correct sir. Albuterol is a rescue inhaler and studies have shown that long term use has the opposite effect on lung tissue and lung performance actually decreases with repeated use.

I was a respiratory therapist and gave up my license when I got my masters in nursing so I am not just being contrary. [/quote]

Fair enough…
Was this effect from the inhaler or the drug itself. In other words was it the delivery or the drug that caused the respiratory issues? I am curious because of course it comes in a pill too… I have been out of the loop a bit. [/quote]

Only the inhaled version, the short acting bronchodilators over time just “wore” the system out. Now most pulmonary Docs use the long acting inhaled steroids and only use the short acting for acute asthma attacks. Now these of course were studies done on Asthma patients, but I would not want to test that on “healthy” lung tissue over long term.

However I will say that having a continuous elevated HR due to the pill form is not good for you either. Any stimulant that keeps you HR up will eventually cause cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart) [/quote]

I see…
For the record, I wasn’t saying it was healthy per se, but healthier than being on all that OTC shit with who knows what in it that also keeps your HR pumping high, all the time. And it’s more effective, the anecdotal evidence seems to back that up. I don’t recommend being on anything all the time. The piper will come to call eventually.

Stop taking the fat burners dude…[/quote]

Lol

Couldnt agree more this goes for any MEDICATION or SUPPLEMENT[/quote]

Even TRT? ;-)[/quote]

dont fuck with me.

Lol

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Maybe the fat was holding all of your hair in. You burned it all and now the hair has nothing to hold on to so it falls out.
[/quote]

God, but I love science.[/quote]

I am very scientifical.

You really need to tighten up your hair.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
and not for nothing how did you figure out if your ass crack hair is thinning out? I would welcome this change, Im going to look in my closet for some expired Stacker 2 STAT![/quote]

Holy fucking shit Matty - looking awesome in that avi dude!!! : )

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn blocked by the Doc

Sorry Pat but you are not correct sir. Albuterol is a rescue inhaler and studies have shown that long term use has the opposite effect on lung tissue and lung performance actually decreases with repeated use.

I was a respiratory therapist and gave up my license when I got my masters in nursing so I am not just being contrary. [/quote]

Fair enough…
Was this effect from the inhaler or the drug itself. In other words was it the delivery or the drug that caused the respiratory issues? I am curious because of course it comes in a pill too… I have been out of the loop a bit. [/quote]

Only the inhaled version, the short acting bronchodilators over time just “wore” the system out. Now most pulmonary Docs use the long acting inhaled steroids and only use the short acting for acute asthma attacks. Now these of course were studies done on Asthma patients, but I would not want to test that on “healthy” lung tissue over long term.

However I will say that having a continuous elevated HR due to the pill form is not good for you either. Any stimulant that keeps you HR up will eventually cause cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart) [/quote]

I see…
For the record, I wasn’t saying it was healthy per se, but healthier than being on all that OTC shit with who knows what in it that also keeps your HR pumping high, all the time. And it’s more effective, the anecdotal evidence seems to back that up. I don’t recommend being on anything all the time. The piper will come to call eventually.

Stop taking the fat burners dude…[/quote]

Lol

Couldnt agree more this goes for any MEDICATION or SUPPLEMENT[/quote]

Even TRT? ;-)[/quote]

No not maintenance meds… Keep taking that lithium :slight_smile:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Arthritisboy wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Arthritisboy wrote:
and hair between my asscheeks seems to be thinning.
[/quote]

Uh, I am scared to ask how you determined this…

I have nothing, that’s a weird problem. I’d say DHT run amok, but you really need some proper blood work done. I have never heard of losing hair all over your body outside of chemo.[/quote]

I have gone off the fat burners, ive been off of them for about 3 years now. i dont even drink coffee anymore.
id rather not say how i found that out either. but thank you for a reasonable response. I plan on going to a reputable dermatologist soon who will actually test my blood. the thing is ive talked to people on here whove used fat burners daily and vever had this issue. i havent taken them for almost 3 years now. oh well. maybe there is something wrong with me that an endocrinologist could diagnose.
[/quote]

Yeah, I am not a fan of fat burners I just don’t tolerate them well… I was the guy who got heart palpitations from ephedrine. The only thing I tolerate well is albuterol, fortunately, my humble opinion is it is the best beta 2 agonist there is…
Of course you can try stopping the fat burners and see if you see any improvement? Most of them are not that effective anyway. Like I said albuterol, it also blocks some catabolic enzymes I forgot the details, but it’s good shit. It’s probably a lot healthier than that other shit your taking. Further, people survive on it years, particularly asthma patients…
One kid on my sons football puff albuterol likes it’s going out of style, ironically he is allergic to grass… But he is an absolute phenom, if he stays healthy he can literally go all the way. He’s also the fastest, most muscular and strongest kid on the team…He holds most of the weight lifting records in the school…Not saying it’s a slam dunk but from what I know about the drug correlates with his rediculous performance…He’s not one of the steroid takers either, we all know who they are, it’s well known…It’s weird man, kids don’t know when to shut up, that’s why they always get busted.[/quote]

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Take some finasteride and propecia, and see how that works. [/quote]

Hey Max, aren’t those one and the same?[/quote]

Shit, yes they are. I meant to say Fin and Rogaine. Brainfart.