Were they talking with their eyes closed and sniffing their own farts? If so, a sharp thwak to the heiny with a jumpstretch band should straighten them right up.
Seriously though- Do you realy want to lift in a place like that with people like that?
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
flea333 wrote:
I went to the local Y for a week to lift. Nice weights, but there was NO noise. I changed that real quick. I make noise when I lift - not because I want attention, but because I have to exert a serious amount of energy to move what I want to move. Nobody complained, but if they did, I just tell them to try the weight and we’ll see what kind of noises they make.
I call bullshit on the need to scream and yell in order to complete a lift. In fact, this is one of the things that drove me crazy when I belonged to public gyms. That and assorted other issues. I’ve seen plenty of people lift massive weights without screaming and yelling or generally making a spectacle of themselves.
You may require noisemaking in order to jack yourself up for a big lift, but you can’t scientifically back up the energy claim as the source of the noise.
DB
Was this in response to my post? If it was, you are a bit off que. I never used the words scream or yell. The most approapriate words to use would probably be hard exhale (or perhaps grunt, if you please).
You may have to keep your bullshit to yourself this time around :)[/quote]
ok Ivan, so I did read into your post a little bit, because honestly, who considers breathing hard to be noise? Let alone enough noise for anyone to complain about. I made this assumption because of the way you represented how you “changed all that real quick” when referring to the no noise in the gym.
But this just brought to my memory the thought of all of the gym rats I’ve seen that grunt and yell progressively louder with each rep of their massive sets. These also tend to be the guys that always drop the weights from no less than knee height, whether DBs or BBs and justifying it because of the weights they’re using (as if no one has ever lifted weights like that before). If you fit this profile then my post is aimed at you. If not, then i thank you for the segue into my rant and I apologize for painting you with my broad brush stroke.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
ok Ivan, so I did read into your post a little bit, because honestly, who considers breathing hard to be noise? Let alone enough noise for anyone to complain about. [/quote]
There’s a gym in Jackson Square in Hamilton, ontario… can’t remember the chain it belongs to. I was a member there for a few months when I lived in the area. It had the most uptight staff I’ve ever encountered, anywhere.
For one thing, I can understand that proper footwear is required in a gym. It makes sense. I was wearing sandals one day: excellent grip, nice flat bottoms… when strapped firm they were one of the best set of lifting footwear I’ve ever had. I was denied admittance for the day by a rude little clerk who saw fit to lip me off in the freakin’ gym instead of either asking to step aside and talk about it… nevermind simply giving a head’s up for next time.
Yeah, 'cause that layer of canvas on a pair of sneakers is going to stop a plate from breaking my foot if I’m so damned clumsy as to drop it.
And yes, these wankers got all huffed up if it looked like someone was lifting too hard. There were a couple serious lifters there, and I’d see these two chicks from staff prowling around and glowering at them when these guys were hammering out the reps.
There was no screaming, no dramatics. Just guys in the leg press or squat rack pushing their limits. Expelled air would sometimes get grunted out particularly loud, like a hoarse growl on a murderous rep, but nothing more. They disapproved of that display.
Lord, the more I think about it, the more I treasure my simple little power rack. 
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Were they talking with their eyes closed and sniffing their own farts? If so, a sharp thwak to the heiny with a jumpstretch band should straighten them right up.
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I wonder how many people know what you are talking about. Thanks for the laugh.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
ok Ivan, so I did read into your post a little bit, because honestly, who considers breathing hard to be noise? Let alone enough noise for anyone to complain about. I made this assumption because of the way you represented how you “changed all that real quick” when referring to the no noise in the gym.
But this just brought to my memory the thought of all of the gym rats I’ve seen that grunt and yell progressively louder with each rep of their massive sets. These also tend to be the guys that always drop the weights from no less than knee height, whether DBs or BBs and justifying it because of the weights they’re using (as if no one has ever lifted weights like that before). If you fit this profile then my post is aimed at you. If not, then i thank you for the segue into my rant and I apologize for painting you with my broad brush stroke.
DB[/quote]
No sweat dude. Personally, I like the sound of deadlifts hitting the ground or DB’s dropping, so long as there is a reason for it. And if your saying that you get sick of the “F*** yeah, man! Push that F****** weight” stuff, I agree. No cursing, no foul language, no unneccessary noise, just good old fashioned iron pumping!
The only exercises that you should exert loud grunts and pain screams on are the ones that you can’t remember what your last rep looked like in the mirror.
And correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t every man smell his own farts. Especially if their the vomit inducing/room clearing kind??
And if you do leave for another gym make sure you leave with a BANG. Have the loudest last workout possible and be the talk of the gym for months afterward.
“I hope that crazy guy that drops his 585 deadlift from a standing position isn’t here today”
[quote]BoxBabaX wrote:
HoratioSandoval wrote:
A lot of people hate it when strangers call them “boss” or “chief” or whatever. It shows a lack of respect, especially to those who are used to being addressed by title or rank.
How the hell does that matter? Who does’nt spot someone who is obviously in need, and then STILL doesnt make a move EVEN after being asked directly. Total idiots. [/quote]
Honestly, when I was in the military, I would have done the exact same thing as the would-be spotter. You can’t just let people call you whatever name they feel like calling you - your authority would go right out the window. The OP was obviously able to just dump the weight and not get seriously hurt, which the guys would have been able to determine with a quick glance.
[quote]HoratioSandoval wrote:
Honestly, when I was in the military, I would have done the exact same thing as the would-be spotter. You can’t just let people call you whatever name they feel like calling you - your authority would go right out the window. The OP was obviously able to just dump the weight and not get seriously hurt, which the guys would have been able to determine with a quick glance. [/quote]
I wish I had more hands so I could give your attitude four thumbs down.
This was a family gym, not a military gym.
Krollmonster,
the gym is i believe in the binghamton area.
No noise gyms? Wtf? The trainers at my gym seem to spend more time teaching people how to breath like assholes than teaching them to lift. There is this one woman who breathes so loud that you can hear her anywhere in the gym, even if you have headphones on.
“PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH!”
20 lb barbell curls are where it’s at.
tGunslinger wrote:
[quote]For most people, the more you yell and scream, the more strength you lose.
Yelling while lifting → missing the lift.
You should concentrate on keeping as much air inside of you when lifting heavy. Breathe at the top of the rep if you have to (don’t pass out!), but otherwise you try to keep a stomach full of air. [/quote]
[quote]HoratioSandoval wrote:
Honestly, when I was in the military, I would have done the exact same thing as the would-be spotter. You can’t just let people call you whatever name they feel like calling you - your authority would go right out the window. [/quote]
If someone’s busy worrying about their military authority in a posh civillian gym, they need a reality check.
The apathy of people today is unbelievable sometimes.
flea333, if it hadn’t been so long ago and in different parts of the country, I would swear I encountered those same 2 fruitloops who kept talking while you yelled, “SPOT!”. This is a little different, but your story gave me the same kind of “WTF were these douches thinking?” feeling.
About 10-11 years ago, I pulled up to a newly-built Sports Authority at night, parked, and was walking between cars toward the entrance. The trees in the little grass islands were about 7-foot sapplings, and were staked with metal wire about 3 feet from the tree at 45 degree angles to keep them upright.
Being virtually impossible to see in the dark, I got one foot caught on one, and when I brought the other foot up to balance (reflex, really), it got snagged by the wire too, resulting in Yours Truly doing a face plant on the pavement and bleeding from the right elbow, both knees, and a small gash on my chin. I lay face down for I don’t know how long, a minute, maybe? 1) to get my wind back and 2) to try to assess if anything was broken or seriously injured beyond my apparent fleshwounds.
OK, there is your scene. Que nancy boys, stage left, about 7-10 seconds after I fall walking and carrying on a conversation. I first hear, then see them coming, look up, make eye contact with both of them, and they each give me a quick look (like they had just noticed an odd-looking piece of trash) and keep walking, never breaking stride or even pausing in their conversation, let alone asking “are you OK?”. With me on the ground wheezing and visibly bleeding, they passed so close I could have touched them.
It took a few seconds for what was happening to sink in. I mean, this was no inner-city urban jungle with winos laying all over the sidewalk begging for change. If it were, I might have understood their apathy, but even then I was a clean-cut guy in his early 20’s, dressed in gym gear with my car keys strewn out in front of me, and this was a brand new store in a nice neighborhood.
I don’t know what else to add except, “that’s fucked up”.
So, what do you think, flea333? Sound like I described the same guys?
[quote]AgentOrange wrote:
I said most people, and you link a video to Ronnie Coleman. There aren’t too many people out there who are less “most people” than Ronnie Coleman.
Also, his form might tighten up if he learned to swallow a stomach full of air before he started the lift. But judging from his results, I doubt he cares what I think!
But what I wrote is true. If most people learn to hold their air, they’ll lift more weight. I’m not making this up.
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
AgentOrange wrote:
I said most people, and you link a video to Ronnie Coleman. There aren’t too many people out there who are less “most people” than Ronnie Coleman.
Also, his form might tighten up if he learned to swallow a stomach full of air before he started the lift. But judging from his results, I doubt he cares what I think!
But what I wrote is true. If most people learn to hold their air, they’ll lift more weight. I’m not making this up.
[/quote]
No worries, man. I wasn’t refuting your point, much less suggesting that everyone should scream “LIGHT WEIGHT BABEEEEEEEY!” while deadlifting PR’s. I was just being an ass.
Plus, I can’t get enough of that clip.
What about all the martial artists who believe that a kiai helps project power? They make a fair bit of noise.
I’m all for the manly scream if it’s the last few reps. Just not every single rep of the set.
Same with dumping the weight. Don’t do it unless you have absolutely nothing left.
It’s in Binghamton.
First off, I was not disrectful to these guys. I’m not like that, that’s why I didn’t go up and bitch at the guy afterward. He clearly just didn’t want to respond. I treat people the way I’d want to be treated. I at first said something like, “hey man, could you help me out?”
I’m not going to be an ass to this guy cause he was to me, I was just pissed somebody could be so irresponsive.
Whoa guys, I know I didn’t specify, but the noise I was talking about was not moaning and screaming, I keep that to just necessary breathing and small grunts, I’m not a show off like that.
I’m talkin about doing a rack press bench with a couple hundred pounds, lifting it up, then setting it down quickly and it hitting the rack pins. Nothing out of the ordinary. Or picking up a deadlift and touching off the ground quickly so the weights hit and rattle a bit. Nothing out of control. I could understand somebody being clumsy and just throwing weight around, but if its a controlled lift, you can expect the weights to be bouncing around a reasonable amount.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
I call bullshit on the need to scream and yell in order to complete a lift. In fact, this is one of the things that drove me crazy when I belonged to public gyms. That and assorted other issues. I’ve seen plenty of people lift massive weights without screaming and yelling or generally making a spectacle of themselves.
You may require noisemaking in order to jack yourself up for a big lift, but you can’t scientifically back up the energy claim as the source of the noise.
DB[/quote]
Actually, a Russian study cited in Supertraining indicates that athletes completed a significantly larger number of reps while groaning, shouting, hissing, growling, or otherwise forcefully exhaling.
Of course, there’s obviously a big difference between a loud grunt approaching the squat rack and a growl pushing up the weigh… and Ronnie Coleman-style histrionics. Some people are just loud.
[quote]HoratioSandoval wrote:
A lot of people hate it when strangers call them “boss” or “chief” or whatever. It shows a lack of respect, especially to those who are used to being addressed by title or rank. [/quote]
I guess you could say “boss” or “chief” would be better than “ass eating, fire crotch admiring, hairy ballsack licking, pubic lice removing assclown.”
But thats just my take on it.
[quote]AgentOrange wrote:
No worries, man. I wasn’t refuting your point, much less suggesting that everyone should scream “LIGHT WEIGHT BABEEEEEEEY!” while deadlifting PR’s. I was just being an ass.
Plus, I can’t get enough of that clip.[/quote]
I think everyone not competing should be required to do this.
At least then I would be entertained between sets!