When some women in today’s legal climate learn the immense power of the spoken or written accusation of violence against a man in their life they never ever forget it. Many of them will wield that power with gusto. It can be a narcotic to them.
Note: I have never been accused of rape.[/quote]
Your right. I would not risk it. Don’t allow them to control you out of fear. Take that power back now! Follow Mr. Walkway’s lead: Immediately cease to have sex, socialize, or converse with all women…except for maybe your mother. You trust her right?
Seems like there are a few pictures people are missing.
On the same subject there is the whole, accusing someone of having sex with you willfully so that you can get a particular result… And, this is somewhat common. How often to women lie about having slept with someone to create jealousy, cause a fight, get attention, get paid, blackmail someone?
Is that so far from crying wolf about rape? What happens when younger college women fuck around and want to save their reputations? What sort of justice is going to be the result if the woman is white and the accused rapist is black or some other minority? Before anyone goes off on me on this topic, remember I brought up a soccer player from my area named Eric Frimpong and I gave plenty of sources, plenty of people on this forum had a hard time agreeing with the justice he received.
The subject is complicated and messy. It involves race, justice and money. It’s a fucked thing to argue about.
If you’re male - don’t get drunk and leave bars with strangers who may or may not be batshit crazy!)[/quote]
Is it possible to get drunk and leave bars with strangers (women) who are not batshit crazy?
In other words, I hereby posit that there is no such thing as a woman who is not batshit crazy who would leave a bar with a drunk stranger.
I think.[/quote]
I believe you may be onto something here. Kind of a catch 22, I realize, if you enjoy sex with strangers. However I gotta say anyone who would have sex with a stranger is someone whose likelihood of batshit craziness is at least somewhat elevated if not certain.
That said, simply avoiding sex wholesale seems a little impractical.
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If only there were SOME way to manage this conundrum! If only there was a way to TELL which people are batshit crazy and which are not, so you could have delightful sex with them. IF ONLY.
In this case the FBI is just compiling the data. Rape cases are tried at the state level.
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Yes. But what data are they compiling? They have access to number of rape reports and number of prosecutions and number of convictions. They also can probably compile data on the number of prosecutions and convictions of false reports. That leaves us with a large majority of reports that did not result in a prosecution or conviction of any sort.
What data are they using to determine the veracity of those reports? At best they are reading the reports and making judgments based on the opinions of those who wrote the reports. If those opinions were backed up by facts, I would expect to see prosecutions.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
I agree, its scary as fuck, and one of the reasons i have never (and never will) go home with a random chick at a bar
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Being scared of a false rape accusation is just about equivalent to being scared of a plane crash, which is the safest way to travel.
Walkway has blown this thing way out of proportion.
FWIW I know a Sailor that was falsely accused and it was ugly. The woman finally admitted it was made up and was separate from the military. Last I heard he’s doing fine with no real ramifications to speak of. [/quote]
I know 2 people that have been falsely accused of rape. I know 0 people that have died in a plane crash. Ill have to disagree with your comparison.[/quote]
In this case the FBI is just compiling the data. Rape cases are tried at the state level.
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Yes. But what data are they compiling? They have access to number of rape reports and number of prosecutions and number of convictions. They also can probably compile data on the number of prosecutions and convictions of false reports. That leaves us with a large majority of reports that did not result in a prosecution or conviction of any sort.
What data are they using to determine the veracity of those reports? At best they are reading the reports and making judgments based on the opinions of those who wrote the reports. If those opinions were backed up by facts, I would expect to see prosecutions. [/quote]
Look at the link you provided about the UK, a large number of reported rapes were withdrawn before a trial by the accuser for 15 different reasons.
I’ll say again, a lack of convictions =/= a lack of rape. I expected to see OJ convicted of murder with all those perky facts and evidence, but we all know how that turned out.
Ask any lawyer, facts/evidence do not = conviction.
As far as the FBI goes I don’t know their methodologies for data compilation.
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even.
Also, important note, shame the next morning no recollection of the events leading to sex due to inebriation should not equal rape, but it does. Those types of accusations are a black eye to real rape victims. And I agree with Ryan on guys being pigs that hit on obviously drunk girls, however, immoral should not equal illegal. And if the guy in that situation is drunk as well, what is the difference. They both made equally poor decisions.
[quote]OldFatGuy2 wrote:
If someone is so obsessed with the idea of false rape accusations, that he avoids women entirely [/quote]
pretty solid assumption right there. im trying to get the rest of the words that morons in this thread put in my mouth, I don’t need any of your bullshit too lmao.
[quote]OldFatGuy2 wrote:
With respect to the issue of avoiding false rape accusations, a little bit of common sense goes a long way. [/quote]
you haven’t paid the slightest bit of attention to any post in this thread have you? lol
When some women in today’s legal climate learn the immense power of the spoken or written accusation of violence against a man in their life they never ever forget it. Many of them will wield that power with gusto. It can be a narcotic to them.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even. [/quote]
Relevant sidebar: I work with troubled girls and most of them have a history of sexual abuse. Generally speaking a bad man along the way taught them that sex is power. And now they’re out there, all fucked up and wielding that power indiscriminately.
Of course, you could rewind the tape even further and realize that the bad men who molest little girls were themselves victimized along the way, but then where does it end? Hard to get the blame all sorted out.
That’s why I take people one at a time. So much easier to hate in proper measure that way.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even. [/quote]
Relevant sidebar: I work with troubled girls and most of them have a history of sexual abuse. Generally speaking a bad man along the way taught them that sex is power. And now they’re out there, all fucked up and wielding that power indiscriminately.
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Most women do not need a “bad man” to learn that.
From 15 year on upwards, they kind of expect the treatment that that power gets them, and how could they not.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even. [/quote]
Relevant sidebar: I work with troubled girls and most of them have a history of sexual abuse. Generally speaking a bad man along the way taught them that sex is power. And now they’re out there, all fucked up and wielding that power indiscriminately.
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Most women do not need a “bad man” to learn that.
From 15 year on upwards, they kind of expect the treatment that that power gets them, and how could they not.
They have never known any other way. [/quote]
I believe I’m speaking specifically of foster children and the challenges faced in finding housing for them. Are you speaking also of victimized children? Or. . .?
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even. [/quote]
Relevant sidebar: I work with troubled girls and most of them have a history of sexual abuse. Generally speaking a bad man along the way taught them that sex is power. And now they’re out there, all fucked up and wielding that power indiscriminately.
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Most women do not need a “bad man” to learn that.
From 15 year on upwards, they kind of expect the treatment that that power gets them, and how could they not.
They have never known any other way. [/quote]
I believe I’m speaking specifically of foster children and the challenges faced in finding housing for them. Are you speaking also of victimized children? Or. . .?[/quote]
I dont know anything about foster children, but I would not be surprised if their behavior was just an unhealthy exaggeration of normal behavior.
Which, given that some stuff that is deemed normal in our culture is unhealthy to begin with, leads to unhealthy ++.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even. [/quote]
Relevant sidebar: I work with troubled girls and most of them have a history of sexual abuse. Generally speaking a bad man along the way taught them that sex is power. And now they’re out there, all fucked up and wielding that power indiscriminately.
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Most women do not need a “bad man” to learn that.
From 15 year on upwards, they kind of expect the treatment that that power gets them, and how could they not.
They have never known any other way. [/quote]
You DO realize that not every girl is pretty or powerful, right? You know that many (most?) are awkward or overweight or broken out or just not pretty?
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Relevant anecdote: I know several foster families that refuse to take in girls because the threat of rape accusations from girls as a tool is pretty common. In most cases it gets sorted out but it is still a headache. So I think that the false accusations of rape vs actual rape convictions is pretty even. [/quote]
Relevant sidebar: I work with troubled girls and most of them have a history of sexual abuse. Generally speaking a bad man along the way taught them that sex is power. And now they’re out there, all fucked up and wielding that power indiscriminately.
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Most women do not need a “bad man” to learn that.
From 15 year on upwards, they kind of expect the treatment that that power gets them, and how could they not.
They have never known any other way. [/quote]
You DO realize that not every girl is pretty or powerful, right? You know that many (most?) are awkward or overweight or broken out or just not pretty?
Yes, I am starting to realize that.
I have a bit of a problem with that, because it is not about me.
On the other hand, girls that were pretty average, objectively speaking, displayed a kind of casual arrogance and dismissiveness that should be reserved to royalty, so I am not that sure, that even average women have a realistic measure of their market value untill reality forces it upon them.
You have a point, but female reality is still skewed.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
I agree, its scary as fuck, and one of the reasons i have never (and never will) go home with a random chick at a bar
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Being scared of a false rape accusation is just about equivalent to being scared of a plane crash, which is the safest way to travel.
Walkway has blown this thing way out of proportion.
FWIW I know a Sailor that was falsely accused and it was ugly. The woman finally admitted it was made up and was separate from the military. Last I heard he’s doing fine with no real ramifications to speak of. [/quote]
I know 2 people that have been falsely accused of rape. I know 0 people that have died in a plane crash. Ill have to disagree with your comparison.[/quote]
Lol, ok…
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Why is that funny?
If the estimates that 2% of rape accusations are false is correct, and we are talking tens of thousands of accusations per year, the comparison you made is ridiculous.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
I agree, its scary as fuck, and one of the reasons i have never (and never will) go home with a random chick at a bar
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Being scared of a false rape accusation is just about equivalent to being scared of a plane crash, which is the safest way to travel.
Walkway has blown this thing way out of proportion.
FWIW I know a Sailor that was falsely accused and it was ugly. The woman finally admitted it was made up and was separate from the military. Last I heard he’s doing fine with no real ramifications to speak of. [/quote]
I know 2 people that have been falsely accused of rape. I know 0 people that have died in a plane crash. Ill have to disagree with your comparison.[/quote]
Lol, ok…
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Why is that funny?
If the estimates that 2% of rape accusations are false is correct, and we are talking tens of thousands of accusations per year, the comparison you made is ridiculous. [/quote]
I wonder how many false accusations aren’t even reported on by police due to ‘lack of evidence’ as in this case.
