[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I agree. Don’t be afraid to do a little arm work.[/quote]
Suggestions?
I know near-nothing about arm training, except that BB curls hurt my forearms.
FWIW, my arms are actually growing at a similar rate as everything else… it’s just I have long arms and long legs relative to my torso.[/quote]
Yeah I can tell. Any access to dumbbells or a setup for chinups? I really like band pushdowns also.[/quote]
Don’t have any bands (easily fixed), but do have dumbbell handles and can do chinups from the rack. I also have access to an adjustable cable stack in the apartment gym. I’ve used that in the past for “leaning-away cable overhead tricep extensions” for lack of a better name.[/quote]
There you have it lol. Have fun. Have you been squatting?
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Have you been squatting?[/quote]
No. I miss it. But I’m trying to give one of CT’s layer schedules a fair shake before screwing with it [too much].
Otherwise I’d be squatting and pressing regularly.
Day 1: Slight Incline Bench from Pins
Day 2: Snatch-Grip High Pulls
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Slight Decline Bench from Pins
Day 5: Snatch-Grip Deadlift
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Snatch-Grip High Pulls
I just lost a big post I wrote for ya, anyway the jux of it was to mabey try some EDT for your arms, at the end of your workouts. It works real well for size, without getting in the way of strength training. Get 150 reps in 10min combining a bicept, and a tricept exercise, then next time try and get 160 reps with the same weight in 10 min. Real simple, but i’ve had good luck using it on the kids I train, and they love it. Works real well for shoulders to, I like front plate raises, and face pulls, back and forth for 10 min. Trying to get a rep total. Anyway just a thought, I know you’ve been asking me for some advice over on my log. Thought I’d drop by.
I hope the first post I sent dosen’t appear, and this one as well. Goodluck, seems like you getting it figured out. I’ll start dropping by, and see how your making out, just pissed right now, because i lost a great big long post, on how good your progress seems, and blah, blah blah, and now i don’t feel like writing it all over again F#@k. Latter
If you are looking for a way to do curls I really like looping some thick rope through a kettlebell handle and using it to do hammer curls. I don’t think you have kettlebells but you could loop it through a plate just the same. You are forced to do slow well controlled reps so that the weight doesn’t swing, and I think that really helps with technique and MMC. It is a very humbling exercise. Also gripping the rope like that involves your forearms more than if you used a dumbbell or barbell.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Progress photo. Despite my lackluster performance PR wise, I think my physique is noticeably improving.[/quote]
Lorez, exactly how do you look so big for your strength?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Progress photo. Despite my lackluster performance PR wise, I think my physique is noticeably improving.[/quote]
Lorez, exactly how do you look so big for your strength? [/quote]
What? lol
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Progress photo. Despite my lackluster performance PR wise, I think my physique is noticeably improving.[/quote]
Lorez, exactly how do you look so big for your strength? [/quote]
What? lol[/quote]
I think it was the cycle of 20 rep squats, in all seriousness, this will add bulk top your torso, by the way where is Lorez lately, this is his log, and he’s disapeared ?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Progress photo. Despite my lackluster performance PR wise, I think my physique is noticeably improving.[/quote]
Lorez, exactly how do you look so big for your strength? [/quote]
What? lol[/quote]
Just that for his strength you would think he would be smaller. When I was his strength I didn’t even looked like a lifted (even without clothing).
DSSG: It’s probably leanness. And/or hypertrophy from volume. And/or time spent focusing on MMC so while there’s not much strength, it’s at least been targeted to where I wanted it. (Powerlifting with bodybuilding form, paraphrasing Stu.) Dunno for sure.
Jake: A density based approach sounds decent. Curl variants on at the end of pull days, extension variants on the tail end of press days.
Furo: I tried that with some heavy rope with kettlebells. I’ll probably use plates and a loading pin so I can control the volume a bit better, but otherwise that’s kind of a neat way to do it. I actually do have 16kg and 24kg kettlebells.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Furo: I tried that with some heavy rope with kettlebells. I’ll probably use plates and a loading pin so I can control the volume a bit better, but otherwise that’s kind of a neat way to do it. I actually do have 16kg and 24kg kettlebells.[/quote]
My wife’s competes in figure, and she weighs about 140lbs, she always says do I look big in this. LOL, I wonder back when she was your strength DSSG, if she looked like she lifted or not
Lorez where the hell are ya, I’ve been going over this layering system for ya, drop by my log if your afraid to come here, and compare bicepts with DSSG, and my wife. Latter bro
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
My wife’s competes in figure, and she weighs about 140lbs, she always says do I look big in this. LOL, I wonder back when she was your strength DSSG, if she looked like she lifted or not
Lorez where the hell are ya, I’ve been going over this layering system for ya, drop by my log if your afraid to come here, and compare bicepts with DSSG, and my wife. Latter bro[/quote]
Lol.
And I’m back. I’ll head over to your log later today; busy day at the office right now.
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
My wife’s competes in figure, and she weighs about 140lbs, she always says do I look big in this. LOL, I wonder back when she was your strength DSSG, if she looked like she lifted or not
Lorez where the hell are ya, I’ve been going over this layering system for ya, drop by my log if your afraid to come here, and compare bicepts with DSSG, and my wife. Latter bro[/quote]
Come on, AnytimeJake. It’s not like a 330 squat, 250 bench, and 390 deadlift is that bad. I’ll even be going for another 20-30 pound on my deadlift, and another 15+ pounds on me squat in a few weeks (when my new bar comes in, and I don’t have to worry about the bar giving out).
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Progress photo. Despite my lackluster performance PR wise, I think my physique is noticeably improving.[/quote]
Lorez, exactly how do you look so big for your strength? [/quote]
What? lol[/quote]
Just that for his strength you would think he would be smaller. When I was his strength I didn’t even looked like a lifted (even without clothing).[/quote]
I know you where you were going. It’s just a weird question to ask. There aren’t universal looks for a given strength level especially towards the endpoints of the spectrum due in part to the numbers that are expressed being placed in higher respect than the dimensions in which they fall.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
DSSG: It’s probably leanness. And/or hypertrophy from volume. And/or time spent focusing on MMC so while there’s not much strength, it’s at least been targeted to where I wanted it. (Powerlifting with bodybuilding form, paraphrasing Stu.) Dunno for sure.[/quote]
Actually, I’ve been thinking about this all afternoon.
I think it’s all three.
With the layers, I’m getting in 75+ reps per session, on a single lift, so there’s a fair amount of volume.
Secondly, I’ve paid attention to my form to make sure I’m using the muscles I want to target. For instance, I can lift more with the bench if I modify my form: arch my back, leg drive, tuck my elbows a lot… but, I want the gains to be focused primarily on my chest. So, I’ve found a groove that lets me lift primarily with my chest, with the triceps and front delts helping some, but not much. For me, that means lower back flat on the bench, with arms somewhere around 45-55 degrees, hands fairly wide (middle/ring finger on the rings) and lowering to just under the nipple line.
That’s the form that gets me the most pec recruitment, even though I’m not benching as much as I could if I cared entirely about the numbers.
And then my traps grow easily, and the snatch grip high pulls, and snatch grip deadlifts have done a good job at building that up.
It’s all realitive, nobody grows the same, it depends mostly on calories, also on rep ranges, volume, and form, as well, genetics might play a bigger role than all those combined. At the end of the day thats why you really only compete against yourself. Look at me 260lb like a frickin tank, but I haven’t focused on pure strength training in a decade, just pissin around like a BBer, worrying about training my clients, and running my gym, my training went on the back burnner.
I look like a guy that should squat, and dead in the 600s, muscle mass wise, but in reality i’m not far ahead of you DSSG. It looks alot worse for me to be struggeling on a 350lb squat @ 250, than it does for you guys @ 150. Anyway we only have to worry about ourselves, it’s the only thing we have control over. you guys living at home, should enjoy being able to put your training first, and not having 20 other responsibilities to worry about first. goodluck !
DSSG, I was just screwing with ya, my wifes way more jacked than you
