Living In the Southern U.S.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
^since when has missouri and kentucky been part of Dixie?^

answer - never, both remained in the Union. [/quote]

You might want to let them know that, since ppl there both refer to themselves as Southerners.

EDIT: You might want to inform West Virginians too. Since the Civil War is the reason we HAVE a West Virginia in the first place. [/quote]

They can refer to themselves as that all they want.

I was more referring to the map of the assumed Confederacy (due to the Confederate Naval Flag) that included them.

EDIT - do I need to inform them? They intentionally seceded from Virginia, separating themselves from the South.

Side note, West Virginia’s secession was legal, Virginia’s wasnt? Interesting.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
^since when has missouri and kentucky been part of Dixie?^

answer - never, both remained in the Union. [/quote]

You might want to let them know that, since ppl there both refer to themselves as Southerners.

EDIT: You might want to inform West Virginians too. Since the Civil War is the reason we HAVE a West Virginia in the first place. [/quote]

They can refer to themselves as that all they want.

I was more referring to the map of the assumed Confederacy (due to the Confederate Naval Flag) that included them.

EDIT - do I need to inform them? They intentionally seceded from Virginia, separating themselves from the South.

Side note, West Virginia’s secession was legal, Virginia’s wasnt? Interesting. [/quote]

Ah okay. Most Civil War maps have Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri as “border” states…Most Northerners think of them as Southern and most Southerners think of them as Northern. shrug

I have no idea about the legality of one over the other. But since W.V. seceded to stay IN the Union, I would say that it was considered legal (Constitutional, whatever) since they were siding with the Union and therefore upholding the Constitution.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
^since when has missouri and kentucky been part of Dixie?^

answer - never, both remained in the Union. [/quote]

You might want to let them know that, since ppl there both refer to themselves as Southerners.

EDIT: You might want to inform West Virginians too. Since the Civil War is the reason we HAVE a West Virginia in the first place. [/quote]

They can refer to themselves as that all they want.

I was more referring to the map of the assumed Confederacy (due to the Confederate Naval Flag) that included them.

EDIT - do I need to inform them? They intentionally seceded from Virginia, separating themselves from the South.

Side note, West Virginia’s secession was legal, Virginia’s wasnt? Interesting. [/quote]

Ah okay. Most Civil War maps have Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri as “border” states…Most Northerners think of them as Southern and most Southerners think of them as Northern. shrug

I have no idea about the legality of one over the other. But since W.V. seceded to stay IN the Union, I would say that it was considered legal (Constitutional, whatever) since they were siding with the Union and therefore upholding the Constitution. [/quote]

haha fair enough, this isnt the place to debate the legality of secession.

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I am curious in knowing if the southern accent is somewhat different from state to state? Example - is a Texan accent different from a Tennesse accent.? I lived in central Italy a few years back, and anytime I travelled to northern Italy there was no mistaking that thick northern Italian accent. What was interesting though, was that the locals could distinguish the different accents not just from different regions ( ie. Veneto region versus Emilia Romangna region ) , but also the different accents in towns within the same region.

Just wondering if this also true in the southern states?

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[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I am curious in knowing if the southern accent is somewhat different from state to state? Example - is a Texan accent different from a Tennesse accent.? I lived in central Italy a few years back, and anytime I travelled to northern Italy there was no mistaking that thick northern Italian accent. What was interesting though, was that the locals could distinguish the different accents not just from different regions ( ie. Veneto region versus Emilia Romangna region ) , but also the different accents in towns within the same region.

Just wondering if this also true in the southern states?
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Yes dialect changes with regions just like every other country on the planet.

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[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I am curious in knowing if the southern accent is somewhat different from state to state? Example - is a Texan accent different from a Tennesse accent.? I lived in central Italy a few years back, and anytime I travelled to northern Italy there was no mistaking that thick northern Italian accent. What was interesting though, was that the locals could distinguish the different accents not just from different regions ( ie. Veneto region versus Emilia Romangna region ) , but also the different accents in towns within the same region.

Just wondering if this also true in the southern states?
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YES. I can generally tell Georgia from Alabama from Mississippi from Tennessee. Texas is just it’s own thing altogether.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
^since when has missouri and kentucky been part of Dixie?^

answer - never, both remained in the Union. [/quote]

You might want to let them know that, since ppl there both refer to themselves as Southerners.

EDIT: You might want to inform West Virginians too. Since the Civil War is the reason we HAVE a West Virginia in the first place. [/quote]

They can refer to themselves as that all they want.

I was more referring to the map of the assumed Confederacy (due to the Confederate Naval Flag) that included them.

EDIT - do I need to inform them? They intentionally seceded from Virginia, separating themselves from the South.

Side note, West Virginia’s secession was legal, Virginia’s wasnt? Interesting. [/quote]

Ah okay. Most Civil War maps have Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri as “border” states…Most Northerners think of them as Southern and most Southerners think of them as Northern. shrug

I have no idea about the legality of one over the other. But since W.V. seceded to stay IN the Union, I would say that it was considered legal (Constitutional, whatever) since they were siding with the Union and therefore upholding the Constitution. [/quote]

The boarder states were almost just territories during the war. But they never seceded and remained technically part of the Union (and actually were promised to keep their slaves by the emancipation proclamation).

And it depends. They were under 2 contracts. They violated the Virginia constitution the same way Virginia was violate the US constitution. It’s pretty Ironic.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I am curious in knowing if the southern accent is somewhat different from state to state? Example - is a Texan accent different from a Tennesse accent.? I lived in central Italy a few years back, and anytime I travelled to northern Italy there was no mistaking that thick northern Italian accent. What was interesting though, was that the locals could distinguish the different accents not just from different regions ( ie. Veneto region versus Emilia Romangna region ) , but also the different accents in towns within the same region.

Just wondering if this also true in the southern states?
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Yes dialect changes with regions just like every other country on the planet. [/quote]

I watched a show on American dialects on PBS a year or so a go. I thought it was just about Texas because I missed the start of the show. Turns out, as I watched it again later that after a brief bit about the NE and SE they spent about 40 minutes on Texas alone before finishing up OU Southern CA. Definitely more than one Texas accent but there is a phrasing style that is particularly Texan.

In college my roommate and I would sit in the student center and name what part of the state the people walking by were from based on accents. The major cities and cultural regions have distinct accents.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]JACKED71 wrote:
I am curious in knowing if the southern accent is somewhat different from state to state? Example - is a Texan accent different from a Tennesse accent.? I lived in central Italy a few years back, and anytime I travelled to northern Italy there was no mistaking that thick northern Italian accent. What was interesting though, was that the locals could distinguish the different accents not just from different regions ( ie. Veneto region versus Emilia Romangna region ) , but also the different accents in towns within the same region.

Just wondering if this also true in the southern states?
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YES. I can generally tell Georgia from Alabama from Mississippi from Tennessee. Texas is just it’s own thing altogether. [/quote]More of a drawl than an accent really. Long vowels, different emphasis et cetera.

East Texas to West Texas is noticeably different too.