Hah… crappy primo 
Primo is probably a lot safer than EQ though. Appears to be, aside from its impact on lipids… one of the mildest compounds out there
Then again we have no clue regarding the long term impact
Why would you run EQ without test lol. It’s going to suppress you. Run a 1:1 ratio anything else below 600mg EQ is not worth it and run it long 16+ weeks. I love EQ.
Running test suppresses you…
The whole “you need test with everything” is entirely broscience in my opinion… all that matters is the need for adequate aromatisation, neurological regulation is met
Secondly, I’m not looking to cycle at the moment… thirdly, 600mg EQ is a fair bit, it’d probably be equatable to 400-450mg test
I’m on the fence due to the potential impact on GABA receptors
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But EQ doesn’t really convert to estrogen. In fact I have heard of it crashing people’s E2 even with a dose of test and then their dick doesn’t work and wife’s not happy. If you talk to pros on Meso the doses are ran a lot higher. 600mg+ is usually where you’ll see benefits and you need a front load. Because of the long ester. I am starting a 500test c with 500 EQ cycle soon. I am unsure of the gabaergic effects. You’d almost think it was a gaba antagonist with the way people start getting anxiety. I would keep a low dose TRT and add some EQ I wouldn’t drop the test completely. Remember to give blood on EQ too. Here is an anecdotal report on EQ crashing someone’s E2
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I’m mildly anaemic, so the RBC increase from EQ would be very welcomed
The endurance enhancing effect of EQ interests me very much, hence my interest. But recalling the potentially anxiety inducing effects of the drug, the super long half life is putting me off slightly. Not to add the notion of crashing my E2, thus perhaps I’ll bite the fat bullet, save up and run some primo with low test
But as I’ve specified previously I’m not going for outright cycling, just trt with a little extra boost. I’ve done this a few times with tremendous satisfaction regarding my results. MESO is typically inhabited by veterans and hardcore bodybuilders if I recall correctly, hence the high dosages
Might just go 100 mg test 200mg EQ 25mg proviron or something similar
EQ is definitely good for rbc count gives you a nice skin colour. Endurance and collagen synthesis is the reason I am running it. Make sure to have bloods done, as most people don’t. That looks like a fine cycle/cruise. Proviron is always nice to add in comparison to the price of masteron. As far as the Gabaergic effects you are worried about, the alleged people don’t seem to notice them until the later weeks in cycle. You could always try something mild like phenibut as needed, not everyday as it can be just as bad as benzos. There’s good, informed people on Meso. And yes, they are veterans and pro BB’s, but they know their shit. Not trying to take away from this site by any means, but I’d take a look on their site, even ask your question on there, but be prepared and thorough before you post or they will shit on you. There is the steroid ban in China 2020 now so I would stalk up while you can before the labs who were unprepared for the drought start swapping out compounds for cheaper alternatives. ie. The classic oh shit I got winny instead of anavar. Plenty of great sources on there if you do your homework, even though it’s not a source board. If you can find boldenone cypionate that’s a better alternative half life wise.
Is 100mg test a week your TRT dose? I think a 200mg test 400mg EQ with or without proviron is a better run IMO. Because proviron acts as an AI as well. You know your body I don’t. So you should know when e2 is high and when it’s low and just add or subtract stuff to fix that if you run into that problem. You may not even need to run an AI.
My trt dose is 200mg
Do you have the link to the most recent study by chance?
Haha, understandable, student life for me was not so long ago either.
In terms of acne I’m exactly the same!! Why do you think you get Acne? I don’t think it’s androgens as I only get breakouts whenever I alter my test dosage. I haven’t tried many compounds but I did a cycle with Tren and low test, skin was better the lower the test.
My hypothesis was that it was the Estrogen but to be honest I actually don’t know. At one stage I was considering running low dose accutane. I may at a later stage.
Do you supplement with collagen as well? May I ask what triggered the idea that you needed better collagen synthesis? Injury relayed?
I’ve never gone above my trt EQ dosage. I’m interested in hearing what makes you love EQ at 600mg?
I understand your reasoning, but that’s based on what we know now. I’d definitely keep a bit of test, even if it’s really marginal. Not based on anything but me being risk averse.
@Singhbuilder so… regarding my plan
Boldenones impact regarding neurology, nephrotoxicity has put me off after contemplating it extensively (particularly the nephrotoxicity)
I’ll just do test/mast. I’ve done it before, works well
or ill drop my intended dose of EQ, was thinking 250, but 175-200 may be the answer
either that or save up for primo… but I’m not sure how much 200mg primo can realistically do compared to the same amount of EQ or mast
will be a little while before I can afford anything though.
@unreal24278
I did EQ only when I was really young and started at 200mg/week and it made me feel absolutely amazing. When I eventually upped it to 400mg/week I really didn’t feel much difference. I absolutely love that shit and ever since have wanted to do it again. I loved the energy it gave me and the ability to do crazy cardio with ease. My hunger was insatiable and I only craved good foods. The mental boost was amazing too. I had below range HCT & Hemoglobin 15-ish years later when I started TRT so it could be that I was anemic back then too. I never had any negative sides while on it and libido was extreme. I’m looking forward to following your log on it.
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That’s the one. Equipoise boldenone. I felt like what you’d want an antidepressant to feel like
Just 200mg of EQ only. Nothing else. It took about 6 weeks to start really feeling anything
Any results? was this a cycle or TRT? UGL or vet grade
200mg EQ is a very low dose for a cycle. 200mg (test) gets me a cavg of about 750ng/dl… at least with sustanon… 200mg eq has even less base hormone mg/mg… I can see how it’d interact with different people individualistically, so perhaps 200mg eq was enough to garner you fantastic results. With me however, I doubt that’d be the case, I’d get results… but nothing above say what my regular TRT dose would give me (I presume)
I really had no clue about anything. I was really young (although older than you are currently lol) and someone gave it to me so I did it. I didn’t really even workout much before doing it. I did 200mg for about 10 weeks and then upped it to 400mg for another 8-10 weeks. Ended up gaining close to 30 lbs (I was 5’9 135-145 when I started) and lost every bit of it because the months following I was crashed and stopped working out. It was stupid but I didn’t know any better at the time. 200mg of Test puts my TT at twice that of what you normally see.
I mean… not bad if 3-5% BF
I was naturally extremely low body fat no matter what I ate. That seemed to change a little after I was put on Paxil though and remained the same after I quit.
I’m on board here. I have been thinking of lowering my dose and using some Proviron. If I can get it, and I’m not sure about that atm. I’m thinking that Test C with Proviron would reduce the bloat (I do have some and the wife doesn’t like it) and have a stronger effect on my libido. Not sure if it would work that way, but I’m ruminating on it.