[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Are we seriously comparing hospice care to abortion? Seriously?! Mesothelioma killed my own grandfather, not his hospice care. [/quote]
This is more “sodomized logic” from a woman who insists on doing whatever mental gymnastics necessary in order to justify the murdering of innocents.
And don’t forget that biology degree. If you don’t have one of those you’re not in the game.[/quote]
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
…I don’t know how many times I can say it, people will still look to abortion regardless of legal status…
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I don’t know how many times I can say it, people will still look to bank robbery regardless of legal status.[/quote]
That’s exactly my point, the law isn’t going to eliminate abortion to the degree that access to affordable contraception will. People look to bank robbery because they lack something, same with abortion.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
…I don’t know how many times I can say it, people will still look to abortion regardless of legal status…
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I don’t know how many times I can say it, people will still look to bank robbery regardless of legal status.[/quote]
That’s exactly my point, the law isn’t going to eliminate abortion to the degree that access to affordable contraception will. People look to bank robbery because they lack something, same with abortion.[/quote]
And my point is because you’re frustrated that banks close at 4 pm, in other words they have “limited access”, you suggest, in essence, legalizing bank robbery.
I’m not Roman Catholic. I don’t have a problem with birth control being used to prevent unwanted pregnancies. What I have problem with is using abortion AS birth control.[/quote]
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
You’re completely ignoring the fact that it’s still murder.[/quote]
People still rape, kill, steal, gangbang, join gangs, rape children, fuck animals…Maybe if we educate them they won’t do that…Oh wait we do and they still do that shit??? Hmmm, maybe killing is just fucking wrong no matter how you try to justify it…dick head.
Oh shit the pill didn’t work and the rubber broke. Let’s kill the little fucker because I am an incompetent selfish asshole loser who can’t handle anything hard. I might cry if it’s too hard!
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If you really cared about these so called lives, then you’d look for a solution that could reduce unplanned pregnancy, ergo reducing abortion (and possibly eliminate it with enough advancement in contraception).
But you don’t.
Interesting.[/quote]
Oh? All I am asserting is that you don’t have a right to kill human life just because you’re a loser piece of shit who can control where he spews his semen. I am for all methods that prevent the unnecessary murder of people. But you don’t recognize that that just in case that loser piece of shit turns out to be you… You need a place to run in hide from things that are ‘hard’. ‘cause killin’ 'em is easier than raising them…After all you can’t control your dick, it just impregnates everything!
[quote]pat wrote:
People still rape, kill, steal, gangbang, join gangs, rape children, fuck animals…Maybe if we educate them they won’t do that…Oh wait we do and they still do that shit??? Hmmm, maybe killing is just fucking wrong no matter how you try to justify it…dick head.
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Oh shit the pill didn’t work and the rubber broke. Let’s kill the little fucker because I am an incompetent selfish asshole loser who can’t handle anything hard. I might cry if it’s too hard!
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Oh? All I am asserting is that you don’t have a right to kill human life just because you’re a loser piece of shit who can control where he spews his semen. I am for all methods that prevent the unnecessary murder of people. But you don’t recognize that that just in case that loser piece of shit turns out to be you… You need a place to run in hide from things that are ‘hard’. ‘cause killin’ 'em is easier than raising them…After all you can’t control your dick, it just impregnates everything![/quote]
I wouldn’t ask a female that I got pregnant to get an abortion, but nice assumption there. I just don’t think forcing what I’d do in such a situation on others would be right. I would assume that you’re projecting, but for some reason I’m under the impression you’re married? I don’t really remember.
Also, lol @ “the pill didn’t work”. When it doesn’t work, it falls into one of two categories.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
…I don’t know how many times I can say it, people will still look to abortion regardless of legal status…
[/quote]
I don’t know how many times I can say it, people will still look to bank robbery regardless of legal status.[/quote]
That’s exactly my point, the law isn’t going to eliminate abortion to the degree that access to affordable contraception will. People look to bank robbery because they lack something, same with abortion.[/quote]
And my point is because you’re frustrated that banks close at 4 pm, in other words they have “limited access”, you suggest, in essence, legalizing bank robbery.
I’m not Roman Catholic. I don’t have a problem with birth control being used to prevent unwanted pregnancies. What I have problem with is using abortion AS birth control.[/quote]
So teach people how to use birth control properly. The pill has a 0.3% failure rate when used correctly, condoms are 5-8%. Put the two together and you may as well say 100% effective.
But in the meantime, abortion will happen regardless of legality. Either we have the abortion go ahead and a potential life is lost, or we go with back alleys and risk the mothers life as well.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
So teach people how to use birth control properly. The pill has a 0.3% failure rate when used correctly, condoms are 5-8%. Put the two together and you may as well say 100% effective.
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You’re fine here ^.
But here your train goes sailing off the tracks.
When complete and total access to banks was made illegal we got “back alley” bank access, i.e., bank robberies. So now, analogously, you are suggesting bank robbery be legalized.
It’s not enough for you to say, “Well, personally I would never rob a bank” or “I wouldn’t ask someone else to rob a bank” or “I just don’t think forcing what I’d do in such a situation on others would be right” or “but in the meantime, bank robbery will happen regardless of legality. Either we have the unlimited access to banks and a potential sum of money is lost, or we go with bank robberies and risk the thieves life as well.”[/quote]
Brilliant logic here from the master himself.
Simpleton logic by Pushharder :
If 1 is a number and 2 is a number then 1=2. It’s obvious dickhead.
Now some application. If a duck can fly and a plane can fly then a duck must be a plane.
If bank robbery is bad and sodomy is bad then bank robbery is sodomy.
If Pushharder has a brain and people with brain can think then Pushharder can think.
See perfect logic.
joebassin’s logic :
if i repeat the same bad argument four times, it will sound suddenly sound good. Like that, no one will see that i fail miserably with my last example.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
So teach people how to use birth control properly. The pill has a 0.3% failure rate when used correctly, condoms are 5-8%. Put the two together and you may as well say 100% effective.
[/quote]
You’re fine here ^.
But here your train goes sailing off the tracks.
When complete and total access to banks was made illegal we got “back alley” bank access, i.e., bank robberies. So now, analogously, you are suggesting bank robbery be legalized.
It’s not enough for you to say, “Well, personally I would never rob a bank” or “I wouldn’t ask someone else to rob a bank” or “I just don’t think forcing what I’d do in such a situation on others would be right” or “but in the meantime, bank robbery will happen regardless of legality. Either we have the unlimited access to banks and a potential sum of money is lost, or we go with bank robberies and risk the thieves life as well.”[/quote]
Prison is filled with people who ‘did it anyway’. Doesn’t mean it’s right or should be legal because people ‘do it anyway’.
[quote]kamui wrote:
joebassin’s logic :
if i repeat the same bad argument four times, it will sound suddenly sound good. Like that, no one will see that i fail miserably with my last example.[/quote]
Yup… I alie repeated often enough…Is still a fucking lie.
[quote]kamui wrote:
joebassin’s logic :
if i repeat the same bad argument four times, it will sound suddenly sound good. Like that, no one will see that i fail miserably with my last example.[/quote]
Did he? Or was it an excellent jab at the fact that not all people with a brain can think?
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Simpleton logic by Pushharder :
If 1 is a number and 2 is a number then 1=2. It’s obvious dickhead.
Now some application. If a duck can fly and a plane can fly then a duck must be a plane.
If bank robbery is bad and sodomy is bad then bank robbery is sodomy.
If Pushharder has a brain and people with brain can think then Pushharder can think.
See perfect logic.[/quote]
The funny thing is, I think Push was the only one who got this other than us, so maybe you should have put a different name in the last sentence 
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
joebassin’s logic :
if i repeat the same bad argument four times, it will sound suddenly sound good. Like that, no one will see that i fail miserably with my last example.[/quote]
Did he? Or was it an excellent jab at the fact that not all people with a brain can think? [/quote]
Why don’t you look. So far he’s come up with a mixture of Red Herrings, Strawmen, and ad hominems and then trying to pretend like it’s impeccable deductive logic. The educated can see through that shit in a hurry.
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]joebassin wrote:
Simpleton logic by Pushharder :
If 1 is a number and 2 is a number then 1=2. It’s obvious dickhead.
Now some application. If a duck can fly and a plane can fly then a duck must be a plane.
If bank robbery is bad and sodomy is bad then bank robbery is sodomy.
If Pushharder has a brain and people with brain can think then Pushharder can think.
See perfect logic.[/quote]
The funny thing is, I think Push was the only one who got this other than us, so maybe you should have put a different name in the last sentence ;)[/quote]
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
joebassin’s logic :
if i repeat the same bad argument four times, it will sound suddenly sound good. Like that, no one will see that i fail miserably with my last example.[/quote]
Did he? Or was it an excellent jab at the fact that not all people with a brain can think? [/quote]
Why don’t you look. So far he’s come up with a mixture of Red Herrings, Strawmen, and ad hominems and then trying to pretend like it’s impeccable deductive logic. The educated can see through that shit in a hurry.[/quote]
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973),[1] was a landmark controversial decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. The Court decided that a right to privacy under the due process clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution extends to a woman’s decision to have an abortion, but that right must be balanced against the state’s two legitimate interests for regulating abortions: protecting prenatal life and protecting the woman’s health. Saying that these state interests become stronger over the course of a pregnancy, the Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the woman’s current trimester of pregnancy.
