Hey guys long time T-Nation reader first post. I’m addressing this post to Prisoner I’ve read the taper protocol I think I got it I wanted your feed back on the cycle I just finished in regard to my taper protocol.
Ok, I’m 45 years old I’ve been working out since I was 12 did a few cycles back in the 80’s and recently decided to do one. I started with a very light cycle, 250mg of Test E and 200 Primo per week for 6 weeks. I had the stuff tested and the stuff was legit.
Back in the day I use to get my stuff from a Pharmacy but that all ended with scheduling. Anyway, my start weight on this cycle was 165 pounds I just finished my last shot of Test E and Primo this last Saturday total weight gain was 12 pounds.
Water retention was minimal I always follow a low carb diet, drink tons of water and did my cardio daily along with weight training. If I remember correctly the gear will still be in me for another two weeks post last injection which was testE.
Question, how would you approach the PCT on such a light cycle? I plan to use TRIBEX in the PCt some have suggested to use Clomid and Nolvadex for three weeks, back in the day HCG was what we used. Please advise…
[quote]ggym32 wrote:
Hey guys long time T-Nation reader first post. I’m addressing this post to Prisoner I’ve read the taper protocol I think I got it I wanted your feed back on the cycle I just finished in regard to my taper protocol.
Ok, I’m 45 years old I’ve been working out since I was 12 did a few cycles back in the 80’s and recently decided to do one. I started with a very light cycle, 250mg of Test E and 200 Primo per week for 6 weeks. I had the stuff tested and the stuff was legit.
Back in the day I use to get my stuff from a Pharmacy but that all ended with scheduling. Anyway, my start weight on this cycle was 165 pounds I just finished my last shot of Test E and Primo this last Saturday total weight gain was 12 pounds.
Water retention was minimal I always follow a low carb diet, drink tons of water and did my cardio daily along with weight training. If I remember correctly the gear will still be in me for another two weeks post last injection which was testE.
Question, how would you approach the PCT on such a light cycle? I plan to use TRIBEX in the PCt some have suggested to use Clomid and Nolvadex for three weeks, back in the day HCG was what we used. Please advise…
Thanks… [/quote]
Seeing as how I am not prisoner, I am not sure if you will take my advice, but I will give it anyways. 250mg/week of Test E should still be enough to shut you down. Obviously only a lab test would give you an absolute response, but I think it is safe to guess you are fully suppressed. This means that you need a full “real” PCT. Either clomid or Nolvadex for a full four weeks. Dont use HcG in the PCT, it is better for during a cycle to retain testicular size. I would certainly NOT taper for this, I think it would be very unecessary.
On a related note, this cycle could have been ran much more effectively if you had researched more. I am assuming this cycle was not merely HRT but that of a realcycle. Next time, I would certainly consider either running just the low dose of primo, to minimize any suppresion, or use a higher dose of testosterone. If you only want to do shorter cycles I would also suggest switching esters next time.
Thanks for your imput I will taking your advice and run my pct with either clomid or nolvadex. I’ve been doing a lot of reading and research it seems that everyone has their opinion on PCT. Bill Roberts likes clomid over novaldex for pct which do you prefer and how would you run the 4 week pct?
A quickie PCT is 40,30,20,20 with nolva. I don’t touch Clomid. It makes me emotionally unstable in the worst way. It exposes my inner pansy. Sure it might have been the drop in hormonal shift but I still firmly blame clomid. Never again shall I cry like a girl with a broken dolly while listening to Jack Johnson’s In Between Dreams album.