Let's Talk South Carolina

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

By the way, Romney is also a ‘far right wing candidate’, as you must’ve heard the other night in the debate. Oh, that’s right, you know he’s lying to the ‘far right wing,’ just like everyone else knows. [/quote]

I don’t know where you get your political information but for the 6th time, politicians try to expand their base by claiming to be all things to all people. And the all do it, that’s how you win.

That is what you call lying

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

By the way, Romney is also a ‘far right wing candidate’, as you must’ve heard the other night in the debate. Oh, that’s right, you know he’s lying to the ‘far right wing,’ just like everyone else knows. [/quote]

I don’t know where you get your political information but for the 6th time, politicians try to expand their base by claiming to be all things to all people. And the all do it, that’s how you win.

That is what you call lying
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Yes it is. And Obama is just as guilty if not moreso than everybody he’s running against. And every single politician except maybe Ron Paul (well, there was that newsletter thing…). But that is why Ron Paul is not going to be elected.

There is no Bull Durham. There never will be. What’s that, Dr. House? You say EVERYBODY lies? Yes.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
But that is why Ron Paul is not going to be elected.
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Oh is THAT the reason? LMAO…priceless!

“…Then Herman Cain was the front runner (you liked him remember?) then it turned out that he sexually harassed most of the females in his state. (Note, Bill Clinton did the same thing but the press didn’t care as much remember?)…”

WHOA, Zeb!

From Jennifer Flowers to Paula Jones to Monica Lewinsky…(and everyone in between!)…the coverage was RELENTLESS (and it should have been)…

But to say the “Press didn’t care?”

That’s a stretch!

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Then Herman Cain was the front runner (you liked him remember?) then it turned out that he sexually harassed most of the females in his state. (Note, Bill Clinton did the same thing but the press didn’t care as much remember?)…”

WHOA, Zeb!

From Jennifer Flowers to Paula Jones to Monica Lewinsky…(and everyone in between!)…the coverage was RELENTLESS (and it should have been)…

But to say the “Press didn’t care?”

That’s a stretch!

Mufasa[/quote]

And again, there is a difference between a Clintonesque “Hey, wanna fuck” and “Hey, wanna keep your job?”, Cain style.

It is not a terribly subtle one either.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

By the way, Romney is also a ‘far right wing candidate’, as you must’ve heard the other night in the debate. Oh, that’s right, you know he’s lying to the ‘far right wing,’ just like everyone else knows. [/quote]

I don’t know where you get your political information but for the 6th time, politicians try to expand their base by claiming to be all things to all people. And the all do it, that’s how you win.

That is what you call lying
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Except for…?

I am talking about Winston Churchill of course, who was characterized as insane and dangerous until he suddenly was downright electable.

Reserving this spot. :wink:

Also, Churchill wrote an article referring to Jews as “bloodsucking Hebrews” O_O…

He claimes that a “ghostwriter” actually wrote the article…

Puuuuullllleeeeeaaasssse, how credible is that?

Churchill sympathizes with right wing leaders!!!one!!eleven!!

?I could not help being charmed, like so many other people have been, by Signor Mussolini?s gentle and simple bearing and by his calm, detached poise in spite of so many burdens and dangers. Secondly, anyone could see that he thought of nothing but the lasting good, as he understood it, of the Italian people, and that no lesser interest was of the slightest consequence to him. If I had been an Italian I am sure that I should have been whole-heartedly with you from the start to finish in your triumphant struggle against the bestial appetites and passions of Leninism. I will, however, say a word on an international aspect of fascism. Externally, your movement has rendered service to the whole world. The great fear which has always beset every democratic leader or a working class leader has been that of being undermined by someone more extreme than he. Italy has shown that there is a way of fighting the subversive forces which can rally the masses of the people, properly led, to value and wish to defend the honour and stability of civilised society. She has provided the necessary antidote to the Russian poison. Hereafter no great nation will be unprovided with an ultimate means of protection against the cancerous growth of Bolshevism.?

"While all those formidable transformations were occurring in Europe, Corporal Hitler was fighting his long, wearing battle for the German heart. The story of that struggle cannot be read without admiration for the courage, the perseverance, and the vital force which enabled him to challenge, defy, conciliate, or overcome, all the authorities or resistance?s which barred his path. He, and the ever increasing legions who worked with him, certainly showed at this time, in their patriotic ardour and love of country, that there was nothing that they would not dare, no sacrifice of life, limb or liberty that they would not make themselves or inflict upon their opponents.?

Churchill is a racist!

“I do not admit…that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia…by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race… has come in and taken its place.”

“I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”

Clement Attlee 1951!

Shock who knew that the “great” churchill was a fascistoid bigot :wink:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Do you think the three time married disgraced Speaker of the House, or the far right wing Mr. Pork belley Rick Santorum would be a better candidate to face Obama? [/quote]

Better than Mr. Free-Market…oops, Romneycare (which provided funds for abortions, btw). Ooops, TARP supporting…Mr. Romney. Rick Santorum appropriated funds as a, well, congressman? If you’re going to carry water for a phony, as a conservative yourself, you might show a bit of humility and pay due respect for a man who is clearly Romney’s conservative better, electability or not.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Then Herman Cain was the front runner (you liked him remember?) then it turned out that he sexually harassed most of the females in his state. (Note, Bill Clinton did the same thing but the press didn’t care as much remember?)…”

WHOA, Zeb!

From Jennifer Flowers to Paula Jones to Monica Lewinsky…(and everyone in between!)…the coverage was RELENTLESS (and it should have been)…

But to say the “Press didn’t care?”

That’s a stretch!

Mufasa[/quote]

It’s NOT a stretch it’s the truth! When did they care Mufasa? Tell me WHEN DID THEY CARE?

Right now we’re celebrating the Romney New Hampshire victory. Mitt Romney just gave a tremendous anti-Obama speech and looked very Presidential in the process. And this victory made history! Romney is the only non incumbent President to ever win both Iowa and New Hampshire. And where are Santorum and Gingrich? They are fighting for fourth place. And to the those uninformed who maintain that “all the conservatives are spliting the vote thus hepling Romney” do some math. At this point as the votes are being counted Santorum and Gingrich each have 10%. That means if one of them were not in the race and the other got all the votes he would have had 20% to Romney’s 36%. So much for that argument he would have buried either conservative!

Romney will win South Carolina, and carry that three state win into Florida, win that and then it’s all over!

Edit: Romney’s numbers are now up to 38%! That is greater than Huntsman, Gingrich and Santorum combined.

[quote]orion wrote:
Also, Churchill wrote an article referring to Jews as “bloodsucking Hebrews” O_O…

He claimes that a “ghostwriter” actually wrote the article…

Puuuuullllleeeeeaaasssse, how credible is that?[/quote]

Actually no none of that ever happened. He did make a statement early in his career suggesting some sort of link between Jews and Communism - he never claimed it was ghostwritten.

[quote]orion wrote:
I am talking about Winston Churchill of course, who was characterized as insane and dangerous until he suddenly was downright electable.

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Actually no, he was considered an adventurer, reckless and flawed on strategic thinking due to the Dardanelles revisionism. He was considered dangerous for those reasons. He was not considered insane.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Right now we’re celebrating the Romney New Hampshire victory. Mitt Romney just gave a tremendous anti-Obama speech and looked very Presidential in the process. And this victory made history! Romney is the only non incumbent President to ever win both Iowa and New Hampshire. And where are Santorum and Gingrich? They are fighting for fourth place. And to the those uninformed who maintain that “all the conservatives are spliting the vote thus hepling Romney” do some math. At this point as the votes are being counted Santorum and Gingrich each have 10%. That means if one of them were not in the race and the other got all the votes he would have had 20% to Romney’s 36%. So much for that argument he would have buried either conservative!

Romney will win South Carolina, and carry that three state win into Florida, win that and then it’s all over![/quote]

NH? Who cares. NH was a given for Romney since the beginning.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Then Herman Cain was the front runner (you liked him remember?) then it turned out that he sexually harassed most of the females in his state. (Note, Bill Clinton did the same thing but the press didn’t care as much remember?)…”

WHOA, Zeb!

From Jennifer Flowers to Paula Jones to Monica Lewinsky…(and everyone in between!)…the coverage was RELENTLESS (and it should have been)…

But to say the “Press didn’t care?”

That’s a stretch!

Mufasa[/quote]

It’s NOT a stretch it’s the truth! When did they care Mufasa? Tell me WHEN DID THEY CARE?[/quote]

Zeb…you and I agree on a lot of things…but this “MSM Conspiracy” thing is not one of them.

To think that Clinton was not extensively covered (I’m not quite sure the point you’re trying to get across by asking did they “care”???)…is showing a bias meant to bolster the theory of widespread media bias.

Mufasa