Ron Paul, utterly irrational. Watch Gingrich’s reply.
Newt Destroys Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Vis-à-Vis Killing Osama bin Laden - YouTube!
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
if you keep up with libertarian news there is a rumor going around that Romney will select Rand Paul as VP.
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If that is true it is only to discredit the movement.
Rand Paul would do best to turn any offer from the political establishment down.[/quote]
You are a short term thinker if you really think this way. I am starting to think Romney took the middle in Mass. because he had to to get elected, and had to do the what the people of that state represented, that is how it is starting to look as you really dig into him.
Putting Rand in the VP slot may ensure a defeat of Obama and get him the experience ans also help get the country more used to the ideas of liberty, and moving back tot he constitution.
Setting him up for a 2020 run with the country already moving back the business and somewhat more fiscally conservative mindset.
It may not be the overnight magic you want, but if that were a long term strategy on the Paul’s part, it is one that might actually work. But we will see.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ron Paul, utterly irrational. Watch Gingrich’s reply.
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Yet, Gingrich denies reality.
Gingrich is afraid of Muslims and needs to go stick his head in the sand where it belongs.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
That is not as big an issue is how they will be picked apart and made to look bad even if there isn’t anything bad in them (um …that’s how the game is played you know?)…
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Soooo, we should all wait to see how bad his tax returns can be picked apart after it’s too late to pick another candidate…If he can’t defend them now, he won’t be able to defend them then.
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Sorry you missed my point, but I’ll be clearer this time. There doesn’t have to be anything of substance there in order for someone to make an effort. And should fellow republicans be doing this? Yes, fi their only goal (like yours) is to tarnish Romney. You, Gingrich and Obama now have something in common.
Nice.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You, Gingrich and Obama now have something in common.
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We know Romney can’t beat Obama?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ron Paul, utterly irrational. Watch Gingrich’s reply.
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Yet, Gingrich denies reality.
Gingrich is afraid of Muslims and needs to go stick his head in the sand where it belongs.
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Sorry, I can’t hear you through that mouthful of sand.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
if you keep up with libertarian news there is a rumor going around that Romney will select Rand Paul as VP.
[/quote]
If that is true it is only to discredit the movement.
Rand Paul would do best to turn any offer from the political establishment down.[/quote]
You are a short term thinker if you really think this way. I am starting to think Romney took the middle in Mass. because he had to to get elected, and had to do the what the people of that state represented, that is how it is starting to look as you really dig into him.
Putting Rand in the VP slot may ensure a defeat of Obama and get him the experience ans also help get the country more used to the ideas of liberty, and moving back tot he constitution.
Setting him up for a 2020 run with the country already moving back the business and somewhat more fiscally conservative mindset.
It may not be the overnight magic you want, but if that were a long term strategy on the Paul’s part, it is one that might actually work. But we will see.
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If Rand Paul takes any offer it will discredit the liberty movement.
Rand would do best to stick to his guns and do it on his own with the massive support the movement already has.
Should his father lose the nomination Obama will be reelected and that will help solidify Rand in 2016.
Long term: if a Republican other than Ron Paul wins it will just set the stage for an other democrat to win in 2016. In other words, there is only one candidate that can offer any real choices for positive change and to continue to grow the movement.
Do you honestly see Romney as more than a 1 term candidate?
Who is “short term thinker”?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Gingrich is a disgrace to the republican party and to capitalism. What happened to his issue oriented campaign?[/quote]
What happened to it? 4.5 million in attack ads. 96% off all attack ads aimed at one man. Reminds me, Romney’s folks had the positive Romney ad, followed by the attack ads against Newt and Santorum, going darn near every break during the debate, it seemed. Also, attacking from the left served Romney when he went after Perry early in this cycle over Social Security.
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And tell me now what it is about PACs not being controlled by the candidate don’t you understand? Even Gingrich was forced to admit that in a red faced moment in last nights debate. But you rail on against Romney as if he was directing them to attack Gingrich. Right now emotion is coloring your usual very sharp mind.
Actually, only Gingrich got the standing ovation. It was highly commented on afterwords. Paul got heavily booed. And Gingrich shredded his Chinese dissident in the US/terrorist in Pakistan analogy, drawing another stirring round of applause. Gingrich isn’t done by a long shot. In the end, he may not be the nominee. But he’s the one firing up the base.
Cross party polls right now don’t mean much. Carter was well ahead of Reagan, Kerry ahead of Bush, I won’t bore you with the many others that were wrong. They are the least credible polls in political circles. Until the nominee is picked they really mean nothing. As I’ve said, and as most people have stated in every credible poll taken, Romney is the best man to defeat Obama. He has the polish and experience to stand toe to toe with the liberal wonder boy in a debate. None of the others have that going for them, especially Gingrich who has some great answers but looks mean spirited when on the attack.
It comes down to emotion with the American voter Sloth. Remember most are not yet engaged in this process. When they do get involved it will be brief. They look at Obama take a look at Romney and choose. It doesn’t go much deeper than that. Sad perhaps but absolutely true.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You, Gingrich and Obama now have something in common.
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We know Romney can’t beat Obama?
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LOL…close.
Ok, so Romney says he paid 15% in federal taxes. Let’s see if he’ll release them, still.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ok, so Romney says he paid 15% in federal taxes. Let’s see if he’ll release them, still.[/quote]
He’ll probably release them when most of our historical nominees have released their’s. What’s that you want a rule change so that his competitors can get a leg up? Oh…okay.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ron Paul, utterly irrational. Watch Gingrich’s reply.
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As Paul says there he voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists 2001. He has since referred to that specific legislation as ‘an unconstitutional transfer of power to the executive’ - yet he voted for it.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ron Paul, utterly irrational. Watch Gingrich’s reply.
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As Paul says there he voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists 2001. He has since referred to that specific legislation as ‘an unconstitutional transfer of power to the executive’ - yet he voted for it.[/quote]
Yeah but you have to take into consideration that Paul is a nut bag when it comes to foreign policy.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ron Paul, utterly irrational. Watch Gingrich’s reply.
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As Paul says there he voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists 2001. He has since referred to that specific legislation as ‘an unconstitutional transfer of power to the executive’ - yet he voted for it.[/quote]
What he voted for is not what happened.
He voted for the authorization to go get bin Laden and also put forth the idea of “Mark and Reprisal” which is entirely different that sending an entire military force to occupy and oust a government regime.
That is certainly unconstitutional.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yeah but you have to take into consideration that Paul is a nut bag when it comes to foreign policy.[/quote]
Your neighbors don’t like you, do they?
I bet you are the biggest, loudest, and most obnoxious bully in your village, huh? Or maybe, you’re the smallest and weakest and must overcompensate for it by being an interwebz jackass.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Yeah but you have to take into consideration that Paul is a nut bag when it comes to foreign policy.[/quote]
Your neighbors don’t like you, do they?
I bet you are the biggest, loudest, and most obnoxious bully in your village, huh? Or maybe, you’re the smallest and weakest and must overcompensate for it by being an interwebz jackass.[/quote]
Actually I get along quite well with everyone in my life. There is one group of people however that I just can’t help but poke fun of. And you happen to fit into that group. You’re a wanna be “independent”. On the one hand you tout how bad our government is and on the other hand you’ve taken handouts from that very government. That makes you, not only a joke, but a hypocrite. And a sad little man who posts how big, brave and independent we all should be while having one hand out so that Uncle Sam can keep you going.
You’ve been exposed on this site by others before me and if you had an ounce of self-respect you would stop posting. But we all know that self-respect is something you gave up long ago. So carry on, but you better spend more time talking to those who don’t really know what you’re all about. I’ve been around here far too long and I have your number.
Punk.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ok, so Romney says he paid 15% in federal taxes. Let’s see if he’ll release them, still.[/quote]
He’ll probably release them when most of our historical nominees have released their’s. What’s that you want a rule change so that his competitors can get a leg up? Oh…okay.[/quote]
Well, it seems that his own rock-star moderate support is beginning to think he’s making a mistake here.
http://thepage.time.com/2012/01/18/christie-urges-mitt-disclosure/
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ok, so Romney says he paid 15% in federal taxes. Let’s see if he’ll release them, still.[/quote]
He’ll probably release them when most of our historical nominees have released their’s. What’s that you want a rule change so that his competitors can get a leg up? Oh…okay.[/quote]
Well, it seems that his own rock-star moderate support is beginning to think he’s making a mistake here.
http://thepage.time.com/2012/01/18/christie-urges-mitt-disclosure/
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I am beginning to think there might be something to it.
If Mr I-will-settle-for-a-clean-cut-Mormon has some skeletons in his tax files and they get dug up after he has the nomination ----> clusterfuck.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Ok, so Romney says he paid 15% in federal taxes. Let’s see if he’ll release them, still.[/quote]
He’ll probably release them when most of our historical nominees have released their’s. What’s that you want a rule change so that his competitors can get a leg up? Oh…okay.[/quote]
Well, it seems that his own rock-star moderate support is beginning to think he’s making a mistake here.
http://thepage.time.com/2012/01/18/christie-urges-mitt-disclosure/
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Yeah…I’m beginning to think that there is going to be a real problem here–LOL NOT 
“The former Massachusetts governor now earns 35% support from likely South Carolina GOP Primary Voters, according to the latest telephone survey in the state. Thatâ??s up from 28% late last week. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich remains in second place with 21% of the vote, followed by former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum and Texas Congressman Ron Paul, each with 16%.”
35% is the highest that Romney has been in SC. For you Paulies what’s going on in SC? How come Ron Paul can’t do better than 4th place?
The millions spent calling Romney a flip-flopper didn’t work. So now they’re going after tax returns. When that goes no where will they concede defeat and actually ban together and try to beat Obama?
Stay tuned!