This is the sad thing, Zeb;
I honestly think that the Party was “warming back up” to him; let bygones be bygones. People saw him skewering the President in debates; and say him as being competent enough to run the Country. Many were willing to “look past” that past because he had “changed” over the years.
This “Scorched Earth” policy of his, I’m afraid, changed all that. (As you’ve stated).
Mufasa
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
If Newt could tarnish him for a few million dollars with this, Obama will destroy him.[/quote]
As I said it is how the party, including those millions who support Romney will look at Gingrich. And I assure you it will not be favorable. He is tarnishing the front runner not to win but to do damage–I think it can best be defined as spite. When you are running a campaign, not to win, but to harm another candidate well you can get what you want in the short -term. But he will pay for these actions the rest of his life in many ways. And THAT is how the game is played!
[/quote]
Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?
I thought now was the time to play the game, rough and tumble as money will allow? Test their mettle? Edit: Lord knows, Romney has been doing millions of dollars worth.
How about adopting the ‘language of the left’ to scare old folks into believing they’d pushed off cliffs in their wheelchairs?
But nah, 3+ mill in negative ads in Iowa, THAT’S not scorched earth.
4.5 million since Iowa…yes, 4.5 million.
Remember who asked who to tone it down first. After lying, saying he couldn’t denounce the negative ads due to legal issues, we has confronted on that fabrication. Romney’s response when confronted with this untruth? If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Well, if Willard is going to throw copious amounts of grease into the fire, he might just find himself consumed in his own kitchen fire by the end of it.
Santorum’s campaign on Romney’s well lubricated scorched earth machine.
Top Santorum aide: Romney a ‘bully’
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/top-santorum-aide-romney-bully/299326
Oof.
…Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they’d been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.
What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company’s underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
PROFITABLE FAILURES
In his campaign for president, Romney has championed free markets and vowed to shrink the role of government. The Republican has argued that his business acumen makes him the best candidate to fix the nation’s economy and bring down the stubbornly high unemployment rate. Romney’s opponents point to his business career as evidence that he is willing to cut jobs and benefits.
The story of Bain’s failed investment in the Kansas City mill offers a perspective on a largely overlooked chapter in Romney’s business record: His firm’s brush with a U.S. bailout.
His supporters say the pension gap at the Kansas City mill was an unforeseen consequence of a falling stock market and adverse market conditions. But records show that the mill’s Bain-backed management was confronted several times about the fund’s shortfall, which, in the end, required an infusion of funds from the federal Pension Benefits Guarantee Corp…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106
“…Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?..”
Sloth:
A man like Newt would NEVER be happy tending to his flowers and watching his grandkids play “Angry Bird” on their iPhones.
He “needs” to be relevant and “in-the-fray”. Take that away from him, and he dies.
Rest assured that hes positioning himself to continue to be “relavent” in National Politics long after the election.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?..”
Sloth:
A man like Newt would NEVER be happy tending to his flowers and watching his grandkids play “Angry Bird” on their iPhones.
He “needs” to be relevant and “in-the-fray”. Take that away from him, and he dies.
Rest assured that hes positioning himself to continue to be “relavent” in National Politics long after the election.
Mufasa
[/quote]
Oh, I’m sure Newt will find much to keep busy. But who cares? I’m a Santorum supporter (if I have to pick any). If Newt falls while managing to bring down Mitt, no loss to me. Perhaps Romney might have waited to see if Gingrich was going to stay positive? Remember whose super-pac slammed millions of attack ads into a state primary, first. This sounds like a bully who can’t a punch, back. 96% of negative ads hit one man…Whose earth was scorched, again?
He does have a point, though. If Romney wants to minimize his progressive republican governorship (and who can blame him), running on his business career…well, that career needs a vetting.
Oh, Santorum is on Fox ripping Romney on his liberal governorship. His phony abortion stance. Etc. Got to go.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
If Newt could tarnish him for a few million dollars with this, Obama will destroy him.[/quote]
As I said it is how the party, including those millions who support Romney will look at Gingrich. And I assure you it will not be favorable. He is tarnishing the front runner not to win but to do damage–I think it can best be defined as spite. When you are running a campaign, not to win, but to harm another candidate well you can get what you want in the short -term. But he will pay for these actions the rest of his life in many ways. And THAT is how the game is played!
[/quote]
Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?[/quote]
Money is important especially when you get to be the age that Gingrich is at. And you are correct Sloth, Gingrich is very well off he is a successful author and is no doubt worth a few million dollars. But there is something far more important than money at stake, in fact many things more important. Firstly, there is his legacy. Through this tantrum of revenge he may not be rememberd as someone who created the contract with America, but rather a vindictive politician who (perhaps) harmed the chances of a fellow republican to defeat Obama. He will not be invited to things a lot more important than Romney’s concession speech should he lose to Obama (as I said it’s 50/50 at best). He will be ostracized from the republican party and deservedly so. I don’t think that the Speaker is thinking ahead past the rage right now. But when he does he won’t like what his future looks like. The respect that he’s built up through the years will be gone along with many of his political friends and former confidants. It’s a sad ending for him should he actually do the kind of damage that he’s trying to do.
[quote]I thought now was the time to play the game, rough and tumble as money will allow? Test their mettle? Edit: Lord knows, Romney has been doing millions of dollars worth.
[/quote]
Rule number one in “the game” You Play To Win! Gingrich is not playing to win right now, he’s playing to keep Romney from winning and that is the problem. The sad part is that he’s smart enough to know it. He’s not fooling himself, or anyone else. Newt Gingrich is showing his true colors with these attacks. Granted I don’t think it will mean a hill of spit in the long-run, but his intent is incredibly mean-spirited and nasty. To attack someone to capture the nomination is a central part of the game. What Gingrich is doing is trying to destroy Mitt Romney while in reality knowing that he himself has no chance to win, thus he’s destroying himself!
It’s actually sad to watch this happen to him. As I said I always liked the Speaker and was impressed with his many political victories, now I just feel pity for him. And I happen to know that I am joined by many, many other republicans across the country.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Remember who asked who to tone it down first. After lying, saying he couldn’t denounce the negative ads due to legal issues, we has confronted on that fabrication. Romney’s response when confronted with this untruth? If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Well, if Willard is going to throw copious amounts of grease into the fire, he might just find himself consumed in his own kitchen fire by the end of it.[/quote]
Romney said that he could not control what the pacs do and he’s right it’s illegal. As for denouncing the ads he said flat out naming 3 or 4 things that ads said…they’re true!
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Oof.
…Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they’d been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.
What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company’s underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
PROFITABLE FAILURES
In his campaign for president, Romney has championed free markets and vowed to shrink the role of government. The Republican has argued that his business acumen makes him the best candidate to fix the nation’s economy and bring down the stubbornly high unemployment rate. Romney’s opponents point to his business career as evidence that he is willing to cut jobs and benefits.
The story of Bain’s failed investment in the Kansas City mill offers a perspective on a largely overlooked chapter in Romney’s business record: His firm’s brush with a U.S. bailout.
His supporters say the pension gap at the Kansas City mill was an unforeseen consequence of a falling stock market and adverse market conditions. But records show that the mill’s Bain-backed management was confronted several times about the fund’s shortfall, which, in the end, required an infusion of funds from the federal Pension Benefits Guarantee Corp…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106[/quote]
LOL…Sloth you are a drama king. What about all the companies that he helped start including Staples? I don’t know of any business person who hits a home run every time. Romney has had his share of failures and far more successes. But you hate him so hey go for it…it’s all good entertainment 
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?..”
Sloth:
A man like Newt would NEVER be happy tending to his flowers and watching his grandkids play “Angry Bird” on their iPhones.
He “needs” to be relevant and “in-the-fray”. Take that away from him, and he dies.
Rest assured that hes positioning himself to continue to be “relavent” in National Politics long after the election.
Mufasa
[/quote]
Oh, I’m sure Newt will find much to keep busy. But who cares? I’m a Santorum supporter (if I have to pick any). If Newt falls while managing to bring down Mitt, no loss to me. Perhaps Romney might have waited to see if Gingrich was going to stay positive? Remember whose super-pac slammed millions of attack ads into a state primary, first. This sounds like a bully who can’t a punch, back. 96% of negative ads hit one man…Whose earth was scorched, again?
He does have a point, though. If Romney wants to minimize his progressive republican governorship (and who can blame him), running on his business career…well, that career needs a vetting.
Oh, Santorum is on Fox ripping Romney on his liberal governorship. His phony abortion stance. Etc. Got to go.
[/quote]
You’re for Mister Pork Belly? Nice choice if you like thats sort of thing.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
If Newt could tarnish him for a few million dollars with this, Obama will destroy him.[/quote]
As I said it is how the party, including those millions who support Romney will look at Gingrich. And I assure you it will not be favorable. He is tarnishing the front runner not to win but to do damage–I think it can best be defined as spite. When you are running a campaign, not to win, but to harm another candidate well you can get what you want in the short -term. But he will pay for these actions the rest of his life in many ways. And THAT is how the game is played!
[/quote]
Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?[/quote]
Money is important especially when you get to be the age that Gingrich is at. And you are correct Sloth, Gingrich is very well off he is a successful author and is no doubt worth a few million dollars. But there is something far more important than money at stake, in fact many things more important. Firstly, there is his legacy. Through this tantrum of revenge he may not be rememberd as someone who created the contract with America, but rather a vindictive politician who (perhaps) harmed the chances of a fellow republican to defeat Obama. He will not be invited to things a lot more important than Romney’s concession speech should he lose to Obama (as I said it’s 50/50 at best). He will be ostracized from the republican party and deservedly so. I don’t think that the Speaker is thinking ahead past the rage right now. But when he does he won’t like what his future looks like. The respect that he’s built up through the years will be gone along with many of his political friends and former confidants. It’s a sad ending for him should he actually do the kind of damage that he’s trying to do.
[quote]I thought now was the time to play the game, rough and tumble as money will allow? Test their mettle? Edit: Lord knows, Romney has been doing millions of dollars worth.
[/quote]
Rule number one in “the game” You Play To Win! Gingrich is not playing to win right now, he’s playing to keep Romney from winning and that is the problem. The sad part is that he’s smart enough to know it. He’s not fooling himself, or anyone else. Newt Gingrich is showing his true colors with these attacks. Granted I don’t think it will mean a hill of spit in the long-run, but his intent is incredibly mean-spirited and nasty. To attack someone to capture the nomination is a central part of the game. What Gingrich is doing is trying to destroy Mitt Romney while in reality knowing that he himself has no chance to win, thus he’s destroying himself!
It’s actually sad to watch this happen to him. As I said I always liked the Speaker and was impressed with his many political victories, now I just feel pity for him. And I happen to know that I am joined by many, many other republicans across the country.
[/quote]
Just stop. Where were you when your guy went all 3.5 million dollars nuclear option, in one state, on the highest national polling frontrunner of the race? 4.5 million total, now. You don’t care that Newt is going scorched earth. Hell, it was how the game was played back when Romney did it with a magnitude of dollars far outstripping anything Gingrich could do. Remember? To be precise and accurate, you only care that your guy is finally getting his due diligence. Blame your own guy, as he chose to go nuclear negative in a volume, and to an extent, that no other candidate WAS engaged in. And, on the frontrunner who had managed to whip up the highest and most enthusiastic. Zeb, answer this truthfully…Or, better yet, tell me I’m lying.
Tell me I’m lying. Tell me Romney and his pac didn’t set this off relentlessly…4.5 million dollars worth now, Zeb. Tell me I’m lying.
Zeb, your frontrunner is off limits only because he’s your frontrunner. Come on, you know I don’t fall for this stuff. Save that for others here.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Remember who asked who to tone it down first. After lying, saying he couldn’t denounce the negative ads due to legal issues, we has confronted on that fabrication. Romney’s response when confronted with this untruth? If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Well, if Willard is going to throw copious amounts of grease into the fire, he might just find himself consumed in his own kitchen fire by the end of it.[/quote]
Romney said that he could not control what the pacs do and he’s right it’s illegal. As for denouncing the ads he said flat out naming 3 or 4 things that ads said…they’re true!
[/quote]
He flat out could have said that he denounces those ads. He was confronted on his ‘illegal’ claim and changed his tune. This is an already debunked claim.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?..”
Sloth:
A man like Newt would NEVER be happy tending to his flowers and watching his grandkids play “Angry Bird” on their iPhones.
He “needs” to be relevant and “in-the-fray”. Take that away from him, and he dies.
Rest assured that hes positioning himself to continue to be “relavent” in National Politics long after the election.
Mufasa
[/quote]
Oh, I’m sure Newt will find much to keep busy. But who cares? I’m a Santorum supporter (if I have to pick any). If Newt falls while managing to bring down Mitt, no loss to me. Perhaps Romney might have waited to see if Gingrich was going to stay positive? Remember whose super-pac slammed millions of attack ads into a state primary, first. This sounds like a bully who can’t a punch, back. 96% of negative ads hit one man…Whose earth was scorched, again?
He does have a point, though. If Romney wants to minimize his progressive republican governorship (and who can blame him), running on his business career…well, that career needs a vetting.
Oh, Santorum is on Fox ripping Romney on his liberal governorship. His phony abortion stance. Etc. Got to go.
[/quote]
You’re for Mister Pork Belly? Nice choice if you like thats sort of thing. [/quote]
A senator appropriating funds that will be spent regardless, oh no! How’s Robomacare doing? Still providing tax payer funded abortions? Mr. TARP still supporting it?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Oof.
…Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they’d been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.
What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company’s underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
PROFITABLE FAILURES
In his campaign for president, Romney has championed free markets and vowed to shrink the role of government. The Republican has argued that his business acumen makes him the best candidate to fix the nation’s economy and bring down the stubbornly high unemployment rate. Romney’s opponents point to his business career as evidence that he is willing to cut jobs and benefits.
The story of Bain’s failed investment in the Kansas City mill offers a perspective on a largely overlooked chapter in Romney’s business record: His firm’s brush with a U.S. bailout.
His supporters say the pension gap at the Kansas City mill was an unforeseen consequence of a falling stock market and adverse market conditions. But records show that the mill’s Bain-backed management was confronted several times about the fund’s shortfall, which, in the end, required an infusion of funds from the federal Pension Benefits Guarantee Corp…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106[/quote]
LOL…Sloth you are a drama king. What about all the companies that he helped start including Staples? I don’t know of any business person who hits a home run every time. Romney has had his share of failures and far more successes. But you hate him so hey go for it…it’s all good entertainment :)[/quote]
Miss the bail out?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
If Newt could tarnish him for a few million dollars with this, Obama will destroy him.[/quote]
As I said it is how the party, including those millions who support Romney will look at Gingrich. And I assure you it will not be favorable. He is tarnishing the front runner not to win but to do damage–I think it can best be defined as spite. When you are running a campaign, not to win, but to harm another candidate well you can get what you want in the short -term. But he will pay for these actions the rest of his life in many ways. And THAT is how the game is played!
[/quote]
Pay? He’s married with children and grandchildren. And, he’s well off enough already. What are the Romney folks going to do? Not invite him to Romney’s general election concession speech?[/quote]
Money is important especially when you get to be the age that Gingrich is at. And you are correct Sloth, Gingrich is very well off he is a successful author and is no doubt worth a few million dollars. But there is something far more important than money at stake, in fact many things more important. Firstly, there is his legacy. Through this tantrum of revenge he may not be rememberd as someone who created the contract with America, but rather a vindictive politician who (perhaps) harmed the chances of a fellow republican to defeat Obama. He will not be invited to things a lot more important than Romney’s concession speech should he lose to Obama (as I said it’s 50/50 at best). He will be ostracized from the republican party and deservedly so. I don’t think that the Speaker is thinking ahead past the rage right now. But when he does he won’t like what his future looks like. The respect that he’s built up through the years will be gone along with many of his political friends and former confidants. It’s a sad ending for him should he actually do the kind of damage that he’s trying to do.
[quote]I thought now was the time to play the game, rough and tumble as money will allow? Test their mettle? Edit: Lord knows, Romney has been doing millions of dollars worth.
[/quote]
Rule number one in “the game” You Play To Win! Gingrich is not playing to win right now, he’s playing to keep Romney from winning and that is the problem. The sad part is that he’s smart enough to know it. He’s not fooling himself, or anyone else. Newt Gingrich is showing his true colors with these attacks. Granted I don’t think it will mean a hill of spit in the long-run, but his intent is incredibly mean-spirited and nasty. To attack someone to capture the nomination is a central part of the game. What Gingrich is doing is trying to destroy Mitt Romney while in reality knowing that he himself has no chance to win, thus he’s destroying himself!
It’s actually sad to watch this happen to him. As I said I always liked the Speaker and was impressed with his many political victories, now I just feel pity for him. And I happen to know that I am joined by many, many other republicans across the country.
[/quote]
Just stop. Where were you when your guy went all 3.5 million dollars nuclear option, in one state, on the highest national polling frontrunner of the race? 4.5 million total, now. You don’t care that Newt is going scorched earth. Hell, it was how the game was played back when Romney did it with a magnitude of dollars far outstripping anything Gingrich could do. Remember? To be precise and accurate, you only care that your guy is finally getting his due diligence. Blame your own guy, as he chose to go nuclear negative in a volume, and to an extent, that no other candidate WAS engaged in. And, on the frontrunner who had managed to whip up the highest and most enthusiastic. Zeb, answer this truthfully…Or, better yet, tell me I’m lying.
Tell me I’m lying. Tell me Romney and his pac didn’t set this off relentlessly…4.5 million dollars worth now, Zeb. Tell me I’m lying.
Zeb, your frontrunner is off limits only because he’s your frontrunner. Come on, you know I don’t fall for this stuff. Save that for others here.
[/quote]
There are a couple of differences which I thought I pointed out but maybe not well enough:
Even with the above said it would be tolerable by the party if…
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Remember who asked who to tone it down first. After lying, saying he couldn’t denounce the negative ads due to legal issues, we has confronted on that fabrication. Romney’s response when confronted with this untruth? If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Well, if Willard is going to throw copious amounts of grease into the fire, he might just find himself consumed in his own kitchen fire by the end of it.[/quote]
Romney said that he could not control what the pacs do and he’s right it’s illegal. As for denouncing the ads he said flat out naming 3 or 4 things that ads said…they’re true!
[/quote]
He flat out could have said that he denounces those ads. He was confronted on his ‘illegal’ claim and changed his tune. This is an already debunked claim.[/quote]
This was not my understanding from viewing the New Hampshire debate. In fact, as I said he rattled off what the ads said and told Newt to his face that all those things were true.
Pretty stand up thing to do I thought.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Oof.
…Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they’d been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.
What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company’s underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
PROFITABLE FAILURES
In his campaign for president, Romney has championed free markets and vowed to shrink the role of government. The Republican has argued that his business acumen makes him the best candidate to fix the nation’s economy and bring down the stubbornly high unemployment rate. Romney’s opponents point to his business career as evidence that he is willing to cut jobs and benefits.
The story of Bain’s failed investment in the Kansas City mill offers a perspective on a largely overlooked chapter in Romney’s business record: His firm’s brush with a U.S. bailout.
His supporters say the pension gap at the Kansas City mill was an unforeseen consequence of a falling stock market and adverse market conditions. But records show that the mill’s Bain-backed management was confronted several times about the fund’s shortfall, which, in the end, required an infusion of funds from the federal Pension Benefits Guarantee Corp…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106[/quote]
LOL…Sloth you are a drama king. What about all the companies that he helped start including Staples? I don’t know of any business person who hits a home run every time. Romney has had his share of failures and far more successes. But you hate him so hey go for it…it’s all good entertainment :)[/quote]
Miss the bail out?[/quote]
We’re tilling old soil again Sloth. As I said at least once, it’s the government that should not be handing out bailouts. It’s not the businesses fault for taking “free money”. Remember the example I gave you? If you and I had a business that was in trouble and the government offered to hand us a huge check we’d be quite happy to take it.
I know you hate the guy but you still have to be consistent.
An interesting insight that I read on Romney (Comparing him to Kerry of 2004; follow me now!)
Kerry’s whole “narrative” was of being the decorated Vietnam Vet, who risk his lives for his men. It actually formed the “appeal” for him as a candidate and became the central focus of his campaign.
Once that “narrative” was attacked and brought back “down to earth”; his campaign floundered and he never recovered. The central “theme” of his campaign was taken away, essentially not leaving him with much.
Now Romney. He is positioning himself as a “job creator” with business experience that can get this Country back on track. Many feel that he HAS to begin to create a narrative on how a Company like Bain Capital is/was “good” for job creation. If he doesn’t, others will create it for him. (And Newt has shot the first Salvo).
What Venture Capitalist do is often a very complex set of transactions, deals, contracts, etc. It doesn’t lend itself to soundbites. But Romney HAS to begin that discussion, especially explaining how firms that go out of buisness and pensions/retirements are eliminated; yet firms like Bain walk away with millions.
In reality, a lot of these companies were going under whether Bain brought them or not. But if “buisness experience” and “job creation” are his central theme,Romney has to articulate how he did that at Bain…
Or Bain becomes his “Swift Boat”.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
An interesting insight that I read on Romney (Comparing him to Kerry of 2004; follow me now!)
Kerry’s whole “narrative” was of being the decorated Vietnam Vet, who risk his lives for his men. It actually formed the “appeal” for him as a candidate and became the central focus of his campaign.
Once that “narrative” was attacked and brought back “down to earth”; his campaign floundered and he never recovered. The central “theme” of his campaign was taken away, essentially not leaving him with much.
Now Romney. He is positioning himself as a “job creator” with business experience that can get this Country back on track. Many feel that he HAS to begin to create a narrative on how a Company like Bain Capital is/was “good” for job creation. If he doesn’t, others will create it for him. (And Newt has shot the first Salvo).
What Venture Capitalist do is often a very complex set of transactions, deals, contracts, etc. It doesn’t lend itself to soundbites. But Romney HAS to begin that discussion, especially explaining how firms that go out of buisness and pensions/retirements are eliminated; yet firms like Bain walk away with millions.
In reality, a lot of these companies were going under whether Bain brought them or not. But if “buisness experience” and “job creation” are his central theme,Romney has to articulate how he did that at Bain…
Or Bain becomes his “Swift Boat”.
Mufasa [/quote]
One HUGE difference, the average failure rate for a new business is about 50% and Romney had a success rate of about 70%. Did he fail on occasion, sure. But did he help create hundreds of thousands of jobs with his success rate? Absolutely!
The Bain argument will soon be a thing of the past as we speak they are working on commercials to point out Romney’s success rate.
There is no comparison between Kerry of 04’ and Romney now. But I do give the democrats (and their little helper Newty boy) credit for attacking him at his strong point. But when all the facts are known they won’t have that.