[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
It wasn’t really the reason I moved out and I omitted the others as a way of complementing Chushin’s post; with the purpose to validate his statement in a strong way.
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Oh, I was pretty sure the only reason you moved was to pick up men. ;-)[/quote]
I am not that ugly.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Your personal situation adds an added dimension of challenge, without a doubt, but the basic principle remains unchanged.[/quote]
Yeah, I agree as well, but it’s so frustrating heh. Just have to keep a-truckin’.
[quote]chillain wrote:
edit - just read your post a little closer and understand the uniqueness of your situation. Obviously, I was speaking very generally here and hopefully there’s something helpful in there somewhere.
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Thanks for taking a double look. That’s why I felt the need to disclose my deafness as I do get what you guys are coming from. But it’s just different in my situation.
I would say I’m a beta by Orion’s definition.
I expected to be married and have children just like the rest of the men in my family. It’s only through building my game and seeing successes have I become jaded. Once you see how easy it is to bang girls in relationships it sortve crushes you (at least temporarily). Trusting females becomes impossible.
The idea of a life full of short term relationships doesn’t seem so bad anymore.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Once you see how easy it is to bang girls in relationships it sortve crushes you (at least temporarily). Trusting females becomes impossible.[/quote]
You mean, for you to bang girls who are already in relationships?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I would say I’m a beta by Orion’s definition.
I expected to be married and have children just like the rest of the men in my family. It’s only through building my game and seeing successes have I become jaded. Once you see how easy it is to bang girls in relationships it sortve crushes you (at least temporarily). Trusting females becomes impossible.
The idea of a life full of short term relationships doesn’t seem so bad anymore. [/quote]
I have thought of this way too. Guess I’m a beta as well.
Dammit.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
[quote]Brant2 wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
That is why I left Brazil: the competition was too high so I moved to England.
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Where did you live over here?
And I think you should come and spend some time here. Even though the gringo power golden era is over, brazilian chicks really dig americans. All my coaches are american in their late 30s/early 40s and are constantly scoring well within the mid 20s.
Brazilianese women FTW, tho… mind blowing stuff.[/quote]
Salvador, Bahia.
I left in 1988. And what you are saying about gringos was absolutely true. And Brazilian women LOVED American males. I mean, they were alpha just by being “Americano”. I myself was under that spell.
For some reason it was ingrained into you to believe American men were better.
I left and grew out of it. I fell in love with one English guy, but did not want to marry into that culture so I blew a possibly good mate. Oh well. I wasn’t ready to give up my attachments either.
Proposed to an Australian ( I kid you not, but I was mostly challenging him to see how he would react: he was a commitment phobic so I told him I wanted to be his wife and would go with him where ever he went ). He told me I had more balls then he did ( he was in fact a coward and I would have lost my respect for him eventually ) and so I rid myself of a weak male that way and I left my mark: he will never forget me.
Did not want to marry American and was planning to move back to Brazil, then guess what happened?
I married American.
Ha!
I still want to go back to Brazil, though.
And I want my husband to see all the beautiful women that sharpened me into becoming this goddess that is happy to shower him with nectar.
And of course, as I am getting a firearm this Xmas; should any of those women cross my territory to try and steal what is rightfully mine, there will be fire.
So, have you by any chance witnessed women going at other women for 'stealing" their boyfriends or does that not happen anymore?
The culture used to be that it was never the men’s fault to be unfaithful ( “men cannot help it” ).
So other women were “the enemy”.
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And here was I thinking you were a dude.
I guess the whole point here is not about “stealing” boyfriends or not, but rather about brazilian society mentality as a whole. Sex is just way too deep entreched inside everyone’s minds, that it makes everything a lot more complicated. This is also the main reason cheating here is such a big issue between couples. It is not rare to see women/men fighting or about to fight each other over that in clubs or even at the beach! It’s ridiculous and sincerely it is nothing to be proud of, but somehow people over here like the idea that we’re the “Sex Country” - this is why Carnaval is so huge here in Rio.
If you want my opinion, please bring your gun with you. Police can’t pin murder on anyone anyway, so you might as well make sure you leave with what you came in.
More “educated” - if I can put it this way… you’ve been here and you do know what it’s like - try to sway from that lustful behavior and lead a more faithful relationship with their significant others, but that’s easier said than done.
My piece of advice: If you come, come during Winter. It rains all week long, life pretty much sucks, but there will be no tits and asses boucing around in front of your husband.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I asked my Asian ex-gf the other day what it is about Asian girls and white guys. Her answer: “because they’re tall”. On other occasions, she’s mentioned that it lets them wear their cute heels and still be shorter than the guy.
However, no clue why it seems to be almost exclusively white guys. We’re not the only guys that are taller.[/quote]
Haha! Hilarious!
That is THE classic number one survey says top answer given by Japanese females when asked what trait they most desire in a man.
Before successful. Before handsome. Before dependable.
Tall. [/quote]
Shit, I would have been HUGE in Japan. But, no Okinawa for me. Fucking Iraq.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I asked my Asian ex-gf the other day what it is about Asian girls and white guys. Her answer: “because they’re tall”. On other occasions, she’s mentioned that it lets them wear their cute heels and still be shorter than the guy.
However, no clue why it seems to be almost exclusively white guys. We’re not the only guys that are taller.[/quote]
X2 on Asian girls wanting height, my experince too . it seems like a prerequisite for them.[/quote]
I’m betting they like blue eyes, too. I’ve seen that in the Mexican and American Indian cultures more than a bit — girls gushing over blue eyes.
I think primarily because we all have dark brown eyes, and it’s just exotic.
[quote]Nutso wrote:
And that’s not good?
I think I’m beginning to understand where you’re coming from but can you clarify more?[/quote]
You set out to do something, you were a man with a mission so to speak and you went AWOL the second you saw her.
I think it was a stupid mission, but you were hell bent and you plan did not survive the mere sigt of the enemy.
Soooo, cochlear implants would not work for you?
If not, there must be a way to use this to your advantage, the sheer balls that a deaf guy would hit on them…
If you carried an IPad around you could hit on girls and you could work magic with it, insert pictures and whatnot and the best thing would be they would necessarily would have to become part of your world, if only because of the unusual form of communication.
Also, if you have a pause before you react, you are less likely to come up with something stupid.
This could so totally work…
Get a tablet PC ----> learn to type fast----> pull entertaining pics and gifs from the series of tubes ----> Learn to insert them lightning fast -----> play that thing like a piano ----> after some ugly crashes get laid a lot ------> post success story on Roosh V or SoSuave ----> BECOME A LEGEND !!!
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I’ve always thought it a bit odd to trust and take advice from someone who mainly advocates game-playing.[/quote]
Some might call it game-playing.
Others might call it (informed) social maneuvering.
Either way, it’s useful info for anyone who didn’t go one-and-done with their highschool sweetheart, 1st long-term anything, etc
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Actually, I need to add a few things:
This ‘social status’ stuff has much further reaching implications than single dudes chasing chicks. What’s actually stood out to me from the stuff linked/pasted here is how maintaining specific boundaries/roles ends up being vital to healthy, long-term relationships as well. For many couples, this gets settled into naturally but I’m sure we all know plenty where this isn’t so.
Also, there’s nothing bad about ‘one-and-done’ and its prob best-case scenario for most, actually. Let’s make that clear.
(yes I’m quoting myself, but the clarification does seems important)
[quote]Brant2 wrote:
I guess the whole point here is not about “stealing” boyfriends or not, but rather about brazilian society mentality as a whole. Sex is just way too deep entreched inside everyone’s minds, that it makes everything a lot more complicated. This is also the main reason cheating here is such a big issue between couples. It is not rare to see women/men fighting or about to fight each other over that in clubs or even at the beach! It’s ridiculous and sincerely it is nothing to be proud of, but somehow people over here like the idea that we’re the “Sex Country” - this is why Carnaval is so huge here in Rio.
If you want my opinion, please bring your gun with you. Police can’t pin murder on anyone anyway, so you might as well make sure you leave with what you came in.
More “educated” - if I can put it this way… you’ve been here and you do know what it’s like - try to sway from that lustful behavior and lead a more faithful relationship with their significant others, but that’s easier said than done.
My piece of advice: If you come, come during Winter. It rains all week long, life pretty much sucks, but there will be no tits and asses boucing around in front of your husband.
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You are absolutely spot on in your description of those aspects of Brazilian society.
It rings completely true with how it was when I lived there.
I could have not described it better because I was born there and you have an outsider insider approach.
Sexual lust is part of the Brazilian culture and it explains the behaviors we mentioned: it simply runs at the fabric of this society.
I have no fear of losing my husband to another set of “tits and ass”.
( I was just being Brazilian with the gun joke ).
I want him to see it, appreciate it for what it is, and come home to unleash all that appreciation on me.
So, are you planning to marry an “educated” Brazilian girl and which part of America are you originally from?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Nutso wrote:
And that’s not good?
I think I’m beginning to understand where you’re coming from but can you clarify more?[/quote]
You set out to do something, you were a man with a mission so to speak and you went AWOL the second you saw her.
I think it was a stupid mission, but you were hell bent and you plan did not survive the mere sigt of the enemy.
Soooo, cochlear implants would not work for you?
If not, there must be a way to use this to your advantage, the sheer balls that a deaf guy would hit on them…
If you carried an IPad around you could hit on girls and you could work magic with it, insert pictures and whatnot and the best thing would be they would necessarily would have to become part of your world, if only because of the unusual form of communication.
Also, if you have a pause before you react, you are less likely to come up with something stupid.
This could so totally work…
Get a tablet PC ----> learn to type fast----> pull entertaining pics and gifs from the series of tubes ----> Learn to insert them lightning fast -----> play that thing like a piano ----> after some ugly crashes get laid a lot ------> post success story on Roosh V or SoSuave ----> BECOME A LEGEND !!!
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Haha, I knew there’s a reason why I like you. I get your point now. Good usage of analogy. That does make sense, and I did fucked up. Since the mission was stupid, what would you have done instead? Besides leaving her in a dust…I want to learn from this experience.
Cochlear implants would work for me, but there’s an entire different world. I chose not to have cochlear implants because of personal reasons. Plus I hate sounds. So annoying.
I’ll take that ipad suggestion into consideration.
Frame control can be very very hard sometimes. It often breaks down when the girl’s in tears or overly emotional, at least for most guys. Not that she’s knowingly trying to break it down, but that’s one of the most critical times to maintain your frame. The more you like the girl, the harder it usually is.
I’ve had to call a few girls out on their shit before, when they’ve done something that genuinely hurt me. They usually try very hard to make excuses, trying to persuade you that “it’s not that bad” or whatever. But you CANNOT let their persuasion work or they’ll walk all over you later on.
[quote]Nutso wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Nutso wrote:
And that’s not good?
I think I’m beginning to understand where you’re coming from but can you clarify more?[/quote]
You set out to do something, you were a man with a mission so to speak and you went AWOL the second you saw her.
I think it was a stupid mission, but you were hell bent and you plan did not survive the mere sigt of the enemy.
Soooo, cochlear implants would not work for you?
If not, there must be a way to use this to your advantage, the sheer balls that a deaf guy would hit on them…
If you carried an IPad around you could hit on girls and you could work magic with it, insert pictures and whatnot and the best thing would be they would necessarily would have to become part of your world, if only because of the unusual form of communication.
Also, if you have a pause before you react, you are less likely to come up with something stupid.
This could so totally work…
Get a tablet PC ----> learn to type fast----> pull entertaining pics and gifs from the series of tubes ----> Learn to insert them lightning fast -----> play that thing like a piano ----> after some ugly crashes get laid a lot ------> post success story on Roosh V or SoSuave ----> BECOME A LEGEND !!!
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Haha, I knew there’s a reason why I like you. I get your point now. Good usage of analogy. That does make sense, and I did fucked up. Since the mission was stupid, what would you have done instead? Besides leaving her in a dust…I want to learn from this experience.
Cochlear implants would work for me, but there’s an entire different world. I chose not to have cochlear implants because of personal reasons. Plus I hate sounds. So annoying.
I’ll take that ipad suggestion into consideration.[/quote]
You did learn from it, did you not?
Your frame is, um…, lacking?
In fact, it does not exist, but hey…
Also, why no implants?
You could hear.
Adsmittedly, if some come with an off switch, I would take those, but still.
I know that there is a whole culture around the non hearing stuff, but you forego the chance of having an experience that almost all people have so young that they do not even remember it as an adult, fully conscious.
There is a whole world out there, an extra sense and you dont want to?
Given how utterly ridiculous and short human life is, I dont get that.
I would jump in head first.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
So, are you planning to marry an “educated” Brazilian girl and which part of America are you originally from?
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Who said I’m american? I was born and raised in Rio, but moved to the US when I was 16 to pursue an athletic scholarship in a Div II/III school. I was an all around good athlete, played soccer, track and football - which has always been my true passion. I spent 18 months altogether in central Florida, but after my senior year I got worried about being hurt or cut from the school team, and having to afford tuition on my own on a student visa. I decided to come back and fortunately now football is fairly developed here and I play for a local team.
I like it here, I just can not stand this sex-based society bullshit. This is why I mentioned most guys here do not need “game” to score chicks. I would like to know how many reading this have been here on Carnaval, it’s Mardi Gras on meth. People having sex on the streets, alcohol consumption being SUPPORTED by local authorities, let alone cheating and all that stuff…
This is the mean reason my American friends go crazy when I tell them what goes on here - I mean, it IS nice to a certain extent, but after a while it starts getting on your nerves and makes you start questioning some stuff.
Have you been to Rio?
[quote]Brant2 wrote:
Who said I’m american? I was born and raised in Rio, but moved to the US when I was 16 to pursue an athletic scholarship in a Div II/III school. I was an all around good athlete, played soccer, track and football - which has always been my true passion. I spent 18 months altogether in central Florida, but after my senior year I got worried about being hurt or cut from the school team, and having to afford tuition on my own on a student visa. I decided to come back and fortunately now football is fairly developed here and I play for a local team.
I like it here, I just can not stand this sex-based society bullshit. This is why I mentioned most guys here do not need “game” to score chicks. I would like to know how many reading this have been here on Carnaval, it’s Mardi Gras on meth. People having sex on the streets, alcohol consumption being SUPPORTED by local authorities, let alone cheating and all that stuff…
This is the mean reason my American friends go crazy when I tell them what goes on here - I mean, it IS nice to a certain extent, but after a while it starts getting on your nerves and makes you start questioning some stuff.
Have you been to Rio?[/quote]
Again I agree with you completely!
I thought you were American because in my days in Brazil NO ONE played American football.
( I just saw the Botafogo name on the shirt in your avatar; how strange to see that against an American football helmet!)
The rest of your post is spot on! I could have not said it better. Sex just is.
In fact, as much as I actually like sex, I felt the same way you did at an early age and it actually pushed me to want to be sexually exclusive.
Your post above is very interesting and I hope you get to share your perspective with us here.
I am also trying to convince Orion to go to Brazil and come back ( or not ) with a bride and a report on “The Game”.
Yes, been to Rio on family vacations and before I departed for London.
I loved it, would live there except over concern on crime and to be honest the sight and the plight of the favelas people: That aspect of Brazil always broke my heart. I wanted to bring the street children home and raise them myself: not realistic, nae e carioca?
I would definitely need to be trained in firearms to live there, unless things have changed.
If you were born and bred there you must know you way around.
[quote]Nutso wrote:
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Cochlear implants would work for me, but there’s an entire different world. I chose not to have cochlear implants because of personal reasons. Plus I hate sounds. So annoying.
I’ll take that ipad suggestion into consideration.[/quote]
So you could actually get implants and hear but you don’t like noises? Wow, that’s very interesting. I’m not judging you or anything, I just never really thought about it like that. From my perspective (and I think most people’s), losing one of my senses would be debilitating, especially sight or hearing. I never really considered that to someone who is used to not having one of those senses, the sudden shock of gaining hearing or sight might be overwhelming and a nuisance.
[quote]orion wrote:
There is a whole world out there, an extra sense and you dont want to?
Given how utterly ridiculous and short human life is, I dont get that.
I would jump in head first.
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Exactly, Orion.
So are you going to continue to be an Internet guru on “The Game” or are you going to visit Brazil and jump into the pool of women?
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
There is a whole world out there, an extra sense and you dont want to?
Given how utterly ridiculous and short human life is, I dont get that.
I would jump in head first.
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Exactly, Orion.
So are you going to continue to be an Internet guru on “The Game” or are you going to visit Brazil and jump into the pool of women?
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How likely is it that she’s going to speak/understand English? [Generic ‘she’] Or is knowing Portuguese kind of a prerequisite?