I saw on the news that the area around Ferguson collected $77 million in court cost related fines. Like you had to pay to get out of jail or some shit.
That speed trap in Tennessee is now “manned” by speed enforcement cameras. The town and the camera company whack up the loot 2 ways.
This is some real Sheriff of Nottingham stuff.
Also, Tenn has cut funding to the Wildlife Resource Officers(game wardens). It’s like an accepted fact they are writing tickets to pay the bills.
I’m sure other law enforcement agencies in other states have similar stuff going on.
I high amount of Indians are much higher educated medical professionals when I was the hospital about 25% of my doctors from India, the people who come from india are mostly not all of higher intelligence, and Jewish people are good at networking, i would much rather have Israeli and Indian immigrants than African.
It has occurred to me that towns and even states could benefit from some sales training. You know, get the citizens buy in on the idea that they have committed a whole list of infractions to reduce the risk of people going to the magistrate and getting charges dropped.
Maybe even have card swipers to facilitate p.o.s. transactions for people in a hurry. That would definitely increase revenues!
I shouldn’t even joke about this stuff though. This is the type of sci-fi Orwellian shit that will actually happen soon enough. (if not already)
I have worked very closely with 10 law enforcement agencies in my area for nearly 20 years. There is no quota here. Maybe it is an epidemic elsewhere?
I skimmed through the stuff you posted and it looks like accusations and no proof. Mind you, I did not have time to sit down and fully read all of it. So, I may be mistaken. I don’t know what that crap from Columbia whatever is supposed to be. I quit looking at it when I saw something from 1954 cited.
Kind of. But also not. The cops I know get to work optional hours on something that the city desires to stop – say not yielding to the ramp when you get off the freeway. They do these optional hours, at extra pay, and turn in their sheets at the end of the day. Somehow they all have 20 tickets on the list. (I actually did a FOI request for these because I got a bogus ticket. I was No. 20 at the end of his bonus 6 hours. The City Attorney dismissed it when I said I was going to the news paper.)
Fair enough. I know of a town here in N. GA that does have quotas and they aren’t afraid to admit it. Duluth, GA. Speed trap capitol of N. GA.
I once got a ticket, in a dead stop traffic jam for running a stop sign. How do you run a stop sign in dead stop traffic? I have no idea. That particular instance, I did lose my patience with that cop. I guess I stopped over the line, not behind it? That was Duluth.
This was a while ago, but I was PISSED…
A cop who used to work for that department told me they were big on quotas. It was incentive based pay. The more tickets, the bigger the paycheck.
They don’t call them quotas. But tying tickets to revenue and pay is a quota no matter what word you use for it…
"Arkansas police officer Brasuell told KNWA, “The message that he [his police chief] was giving me was do whatever it takes to get the tickets even if you have to make somebody do something wrong.”
I understand what you are saying. But, what you have described to me is a situation where there is a traffic problem which needs to be curtailed. This calls for overtime as it is not being resolved during regular shift patrol. When the officers working that detail witness the traffic violations they respond in kind which is what the Department is asking it’s officers to do. In other words there is no quota simply an area in your city that calls for more policing based on violations.
Yeah, and the $400,000,000 in unmarked small bills delivered in unmarked aircraft to Iran in exchange for hostages wasn’t ransom.
Call it what you will, but I had 100 activity sheets, all for 6 hours (or less) and the exact same number of tickets, no more, no less.
You can call it an “aspirational goal,” but we all known it’s a quota. Certainly 12 jurors would, which is why the city attorney said “fuck it” and let me off.
i know several officers at the local police department,they tell me there is no quota system
BUT
if the other people that work your area write 20 tickets each day you better be writing 20 tickets per day other wise you get called in and asked what do you do all day
Yep. There might not be a quota in place (neighbouring jurisdiction has a quota) but tickets are usually a measure of performance. It’s easy to track and it proves you are doing “something”. My boss keeps tracks of how many traffic stops, tickets, arrests, and files I have completed over a given time frame. What they don’t keep track of is how many positive contacts I have with people in a given period, and I have a lot. There is a mentality in policing that goes “If you don’t get professional standards complaints, you’re not doing your job”. No one ever talks about the good things we do unless it makes the bosses look really good.
Another problem with tickets occurs when they are issued to get over-time. With budgets being reigned in, there are less opportunities for overtime There is always money in the budget to testify in court over traffic tickets that will generate revenue. You’re shit out of luck because you most likely did what you are accused of and were aware of the penalties, so you really don’t have an excuse.
in the majority of cases this is most likely true,
however equipment violations like tail lights ,really who checks their tail lights
my brother got a speeding ticket 26 in a 25 zone
really depends on where you are and officers mindset