Letrozole Uses

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Evening gents,

I have a couple of queries about the use of letro, here is my situation;

I ran 700mg test prop and 40mg dbol for ~4 weeks before noticing a small lump in my left nipple.

I got this under control with 40mg nolva ED and I also started my “waiting period” of 100mg test PW at this point to be on the safe side.

I am still on 100mg test PW, and have tapered my nolva down to 20mg, and the lump is not growing any further, but not shrinking either.

I will have access to some letro next week, and read that 2.5mg ED followed by a taper was a good protocol for reversing gyno.

This seems a little excessive to me, any thoughts/experiences?

Also, will this fuck up my test taper? I have read that letro can be used as a standalone for PCT so should I just run the letro and kill 2 birds with 1 stone?

Many Thanks for your time, I hope I have given enough details…

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What you’re currently doing should suffice to reverse gynpo, you just have to be patient. Unfortunately, it won’t happen overnight.

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Evening gents,

I have a couple of queries about the use of letro, here is my situation;

I ran 700mg test prop and 40mg dbol for ~4 weeks before noticing a small lump in my left nipple.

I got this under control with 40mg nolva ED and I also started my “waiting period” of 100mg test PW at this point to be on the safe side.

I am still on 100mg test PW, and have tapered my nolva down to 20mg, and the lump is not growing any further, but not shrinking either.

I will have access to some letro next week, and read that 2.5mg ED followed by a taper was a good protocol for reversing gyno.

This seems a little excessive to me, any thoughts/experiences?

Also, will this fuck up my test taper? I have read that letro can be used as a standalone for PCT so should I just run the letro and kill 2 birds with 1 stone?

Many Thanks for your time, I hope I have given enough details…
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Hey Dave,

Sorry to hear, how long did you run the nolva at 40, and how long total time has it now been run?

I know some say over 40 isn’t necessary and doesn’t make a difference, but you might remember I did a very effective protocol when I had my bout, which was in both by the time I started it. Just a thought, at any rate, I was going to do the same,(letro), but the higher dosed nolva did the trick for me, and quickly at that. Wish you the best, and definitely keep us updated.

I’m sure the best and brightest will chime in for you soon buddy.

              Hang in there,

                ToneBone
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[quote]Contrl wrote:
What you’re currently doing should suffice to reverse gynpo, you just have to be patient. Unfortunately, it won’t happen overnight.[/quote]

Hey Contrl. Do you mean that his test taper should suffice, or that combined with letro?

My experience dictates that the test taper is not enough, unfortunately, to reverse the growth. I’m well past both my cycle and taper and that little tiny filiment of growth under my nipple is still there. It is tiny enough that I don’t even think it would be noticible if my bodyfat were contest ready, but it is there if I press and move my finger up and down over it. Because of this, I’d like to hear how this plays out if you do use the letro. Prisoner mentioned something about using it at the dosage you are talking about and I would love to hear him chime in on your thread. You might PM him and ask him to post his answer here. I hope you can get everything taken care of Dave. Good luck.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
Contrl wrote:
What you’re currently doing should suffice to reverse gynpo, you just have to be patient. Unfortunately, it won’t happen overnight.

Hey Contrl. Do you mean that his test taper should suffice, or that combined with letro?

My experience dictates that the test taper is not enough, unfortunately, to reverse the growth. I’m well past both my cycle and taper and that little tiny filiment of growth under my nipple is still there. It is tiny enough that I don’t even think it would be noticible if my bodyfat were contest ready, but it is there if I press and move my finger up and down over it. Because of this, I’d like to hear how this plays out if you do use the letro. Prisoner mentioned something about using it at the dosage you are talking about and I would love to hear him chime in on your thread. You might PM him and ask him to post his answer here. I hope you can get everything taken care of Dave. Good luck.[/quote]

I think he might have been referring to the nolva at 20mg/day Cortes mainly. But I could be wrong.

                   ToneBone
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I misread what he said. I read that as that he had stopped his cycle and started a Nolvadex period. Obviously, the most efficient approach to reversing gyno would be to stop exacerbating the problem.

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Thanks for the feedback Contrl, Tone, and Cortes.

Contrl: Do you mean to just stick with tapering my test and my nolva? The lump is really small but I can feel it but can’t see it.

Tone: I have done 40mg for about 2 weeks now, and have just taken it down to 20mg. I have enough nolva left to start again at 60mg ED and work down from there… I may try it depending on everyone’s concensus on the letro use. Thanks for the kind words mate!

Cortes: I think my lump is about the same size as yours - I only know it’s there by feeling for it. I’ll PM prisoner about the letro and see if he has the time to comment.

Thanks for the input guys. Unfortunately I only have access to my computer at the weekends (I’m away during the week - a work thing) but hopefully I can find and internet cafe to help keep up with everyone.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

Though I suppose unltra low levels of E might have some test’starting effect, due to the feedback mechanism.

Bushy[/quote]

Thanks Bushy, that answers one of my questions. I had read some stuff on pubmed which boasted whopping increases in LH and T upon admin of letro in males, but I wanted to know if it actually works in the PCT situation. Cheers guv.

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Agree with Bush, and I thought I have made this clear in the past.

Letro use and all AI use needs to be tapered out and removed by mid waiting period.

The goal of the waiting period is to normalize all receptors, that includes the ER. Using an AI causes up Regulation of the ER (makes you more sensitive to estrogen)
This means that if you continue to use letro post cycle, when you remove it you will respond to even minute levels of estrogen. That means Gyno, and further HPTA suppression. That is exactly what you do not want.

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So how do you go about using letrozole, Pris?

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I am wondering the same thing…what would be a proper dosing protocol?

From what I have read the use of letro for elimination of gyno is very effective when used correctly…key is that you slowly taper off of it after you have eliminated the gyno so that there isn’t a strong rebound.

The issue with using Letro for this is that the total lack of estrogen really plays havoc with sex drive, joint health, and lipid profile. Is there a way of avoiding this?

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the key is not getting the gyno in the first place. Titrate your dose of AI so that gyno is not an issue to begin with. Chasing it away using femara once you have it is pointless, as it will shrink anyway once your cycle is completed. All femara does is create an absence of estrogen in your body while on cycle, similar to the absence of estrogen in your body when you are not on cycle.

So, if you are planning on going off cycle and have some gyno, it is better to go off cycle and let the gyno shrink normally, then to try and chase it away using femara while going off cycle, as that can lead to the estrogen receptor up regulation problems I explained.