LEO Encounters and Complaints

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Well, I have had “a little” experience with the police LOL. Of the six times I’ve ever been arrested, FOUR of them I’ve been beaten, roughed up or ended up pissing blood (the other two I was a minor and I guess they thought my mom would give a shit or something). Of the twenty or so times I’ve been pulled over for “traffic violations” I’ve been beaten SIX times. For NO reason at all. Not charged, no ticket, just beaten up (four of those times were in PG county MD, the other two in Baltimore City). Many of the other times I was asked to exit the vehicle and they searched it against my wishes.

My Cousin is a Baltimore City cop and I have two other friends from different social circles who are DC cops (different agencies). I find it amusing to get them talking about how they “kicked the shit out of this one guy last week”, or otherwise making them believe they have a friendly ear to brag about their douchbaggery. My one police friend and I came from the same neighborhood and he and I actually used to boost cars/steal stereo equipment together when we were teenagers. He’s the one who showed me how to use a dent puller! Now he’s cop… The way THEY tell their stories after a few beers you’d believe that the entire Baltimore and DC police force is corrupt. I don’t doubt it, given my experience.

One of my best friend’s son is currently being detained without bail on a murder charge based on the "her"say of an ex-girlfriend who later ADMITTED that she made it up because she was mad and they already have the three (out of THREE) other suspects who committed the crime in custody. Apparently, instead of letting him go, they are holding him (and causing him to miss his entire senior year of HS and fucking any chance he had at college) because they know the charge wont stick, but they are throwing every unsolved crime at him on fucking fishing expedition. They are even checking up in PA for charges because he stayed there with his uncle for a few months last summer. It’s COMPLETE bullshit. I have been told it can be another six months before the murder trial (at which time he will walk once he’s proven innocent) IF there are no postponements. He was 17 when he was arrested, but just turned 18 last month and they threw him right in with General Population on the day of his birthday. He’s held his own so far - he’s a tough kid, but it’s fucking bullshit what the “system” is doing.

I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER had a positive experience with a LEO when he’s on duty. I hated them when I was young, and I hate them now for what they’re doing to Vinnie.

Protect and serve, MY ASS

Fuck the police!

I LOVE this one it shows cops beating the shit out of defenseless people and in the middle it show a cop taking a cheap shot on someone and then a crow beats the shit out of him! AWESOME!

I like the slideshow on this one LOL

this is funny

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
I haven’t read this thread but I will repeat the story a friend told me last fall.

To start, this friend had been in some trouble in the past and spent some time locked up for a cocaine related charge. He was young, but over 18 and under 21. He also had some marijuana charges. We will call him Joe.

Anyway, he was a mess for awhile but was getting his life back together and doing a fairly good job at it. He was back in school and off any and all shit, but still on probation. Another friend of mine had a bit of a grow op going, and was hooking up this other guy a state away. Joe lent him a cooler to move some stuff up to Michigan, which was returned after a trip.

So Joe gets this cooler, throws it in his trunk, and drives within the state back home from his school and ends up getting pulled over. They run his license, see he has a record, ask to search his car, which he refuses, so they call in a dog.

If you haven’t seen the evidence, drug dogs are pretty much worthless and go off the mood of the handler. The last thing I saw on the matter, they had these dogs searching lockers at a school and they indicated something like 37 lockers and no drugs were found.

Anyway, the dog starts going nuts, they pull him out of the car and search his trunk and find the cooler. He’s freaking out at this point thinking something was left in it, which there wasn’t but it stunk to high heaven of dope. So at this point, Joe is like thank god I’m getting out of this, because technically he had done nothing wrong and they had no evidence to charge him with anything.

So, they go in and search the interior of the car, then the officer comes back with a joint. Now, Joe swears up and down that it is not his and that the cop planted it and judging by his efforts to move on and get away from all the stuff he used to do, I tend to believe him. It was a new car, and maybe a passenger dropped it in there, but I doubt it as he was on probation and paranoid about even being around the stuff.

Regardless, they charged him with possession which broke his probation and he was thrown back into a world of legal bullshit for awhile, but is doing just fine now.

Either way, when I heard that I was raging for awhile and a cop would actually do something like that, but I’m sure it happens all the time.

[/quote]

It’s weird that he was convicted based on a search he didn’t agree to.

A couple years ago when I was taking a law course we covered a case where police pulled over a man for one reason, searched the car, and came up with a trunkful of heroine. However, the case was dismissed on grounds that the search was illegal; there was no warrant and the cops had violated the law by searching his car against his will when there was no reason to suspect him.

Maybe the law changed or the state laws differ a bit, but it sounds like your friend needs a better lawyer.

As for standing up to the cops on principle; it’s really pointless. Nothing is going to come of what BG did. Some officers are not going to stop being dicks and questions aren’t going to stop being asked. Officers aren’t going to start being better trained in the law because of this either.

BG was completely in his right to do what he did and the officers didn’t do anything that could get them sued, so really this is just a standard situation where no one was harmed and thus no difference can be made law or training wise. It’s unfortunate for his mental “must prove a point” sake that BG wasn’t roughed up a bit.[/quote]

Your childhood is unfortunate for your adulthood, and future. The other attention whore was here, I knew the other couldn’t be far behind. Do you guys have an alert system like the bat signal in the sky? Or is just you two rockets scientists PMing each other?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
So, why didn’t you do exactly what the officer asked and then pursue recourse later? Isn’t that the advice you gave in the other thread?

I don’t see this as any different than the other thread. Officer who doesn’t know the law detaining someone and issuing commands out of that ignorance. Did you not have the duty to obey? If not, why?[/quote]

I knew you’d be along with your illogical bullshit. And I have an answer for you:

I was not knowingly baiting the law. My tail light was out. I didn’t have my recorder ready at hand and a refusal ready for him. As I stated to the Chief in my e-mail, if he had engaged me in some friendly and professional banter as opposed to the nazi-checkpoint act, I would have probably told him.

Next, I did not possess a weapon and I was not making a LEO with a weapon trained upon me nervous.

BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE. Remember when I said in the other thread I was starting to feel like I’ve given you too much credit? I’m decided; I have.[/quote]

First of all, it was an honest question as to what you thought was different.

Next, you seem to indicate that it is okay to exercise your rights as long as it doesn’t make cops nervous? Once again, that would make it not a right.

You were refusing to answer for the sake of refusing to answer. You were purposely being provocative, tape recorder or not. You could have easily answered the question and avoided the situation, but you chose not to. You put your family through that every bit as much as the cop did. It should have been obvious to you that the officer honestly believed himself right since he was willing to call his supervisor.[/quote]

I fully answered your question. Lawful order v. a request. Now run onj back to your village idiot, and build scarecrows for the farmers. You have about as strong a grasp on logical associations as O has on her modesty - which is none.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL…so this was just another Tueday night in Houston.

I get asked where I am coming from and/or where I am going whenever I get pulled over at night. Yeah, it’s bullshit…but it is hilarious that everyone else is just now catching on. I would ahve expected a mass response like this back in the lat 80’s…but I guess they weren’t focusing on everyone else yet back then.[/quote]

LOL is right.

Let me be the first to quote you from the “Arnold and Schriver seperation” thread:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t even hate him for it. He didn’t break any laws even reducing that guy’s sentence. Insensitive? Yes.
Politically Incorrect? Yes.
Maybe even downright dirty? Yes.

But illegal? Nope. He got power. He used power.
[/quote]

Was it politically incorrect and insensitive to racially profile you and pull you over? Yes and yes.
Maybe even downright dirty? Yep.
Did the cop break any laws for pulling you over and questioning you? Nope.

The cop had power and he used it.

While I generally agree with what BG has to say, your hipocrisy is outstanding.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
I haven’t read this thread but I will repeat the story a friend told me last fall.

To start, this friend had been in some trouble in the past and spent some time locked up for a cocaine related charge. He was young, but over 18 and under 21. He also had some marijuana charges. We will call him Joe.

Anyway, he was a mess for awhile but was getting his life back together and doing a fairly good job at it. He was back in school and off any and all shit, but still on probation. Another friend of mine had a bit of a grow op going, and was hooking up this other guy a state away. Joe lent him a cooler to move some stuff up to Michigan, which was returned after a trip.

So Joe gets this cooler, throws it in his trunk, and drives within the state back home from his school and ends up getting pulled over. They run his license, see he has a record, ask to search his car, which he refuses, so they call in a dog.

If you haven’t seen the evidence, drug dogs are pretty much worthless and go off the mood of the handler. The last thing I saw on the matter, they had these dogs searching lockers at a school and they indicated something like 37 lockers and no drugs were found.

Anyway, the dog starts going nuts, they pull him out of the car and search his trunk and find the cooler. He’s freaking out at this point thinking something was left in it, which there wasn’t but it stunk to high heaven of dope. So at this point, Joe is like thank god I’m getting out of this, because technically he had done nothing wrong and they had no evidence to charge him with anything.

So, they go in and search the interior of the car, then the officer comes back with a joint. Now, Joe swears up and down that it is not his and that the cop planted it and judging by his efforts to move on and get away from all the stuff he used to do, I tend to believe him. It was a new car, and maybe a passenger dropped it in there, but I doubt it as he was on probation and paranoid about even being around the stuff.

Regardless, they charged him with possession which broke his probation and he was thrown back into a world of legal bullshit for awhile, but is doing just fine now.

Either way, when I heard that I was raging for awhile and a cop would actually do something like that, but I’m sure it happens all the time.

[/quote]

It’s weird that he was convicted based on a search he didn’t agree to.

A couple years ago when I was taking a law course we covered a case where police pulled over a man for one reason, searched the car, and came up with a trunkful of heroine. However, the case was dismissed on grounds that the search was illegal; there was no warrant and the cops had violated the law by searching his car against his will when there was no reason to suspect him.

Maybe the law changed or the state laws differ a bit, but it sounds like your friend needs a better lawyer.

As for standing up to the cops on principle; it’s really pointless. Nothing is going to come of what BG did. Some officers are not going to stop being dicks and questions aren’t going to stop being asked. Officers aren’t going to start being better trained in the law because of this either.

BG was completely in his right to do what he did and the officers didn’t do anything that could get them sued, so really this is just a standard situation where no one was harmed and thus no difference can be made law or training wise. It’s unfortunate for his mental “must prove a point” sake that BG wasn’t roughed up a bit.[/quote]

Your childhood is unfortunate for your adulthood, and future. The other attention whore was here, I knew the other couldn’t be far behind. Do you guys have an alert system like the bat signal in the sky? Or is just you two rockets scientists PMing each other?[/quote]

I don’t know what BG is rambling about, but he didn’t get a lawyer the second time around as he was paying for school and just paid a bunch for a lawyer in the first situation. I think that’s why they targeted him; young guy, already in the system for trouble, in school so money is tight, so he really couldn’t credibly fight it.

He ended up just submitting and bending over basically, but it was the best option for him, and he got through it fine.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Do you guys have an alert system like the bat signal in the sky? Or is just you two rockets scientists PMing each other?[/quote]

When did the smoke signal go out of style? Man, those Indians knew how to set up an alert system…

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL…so this was just another Tueday night in Houston.

I get asked where I am coming from and/or where I am going whenever I get pulled over at night. Yeah, it’s bullshit…but it is hilarious that everyone else is just now catching on. I would ahve expected a mass response like this back in the lat 80’s…but I guess they weren’t focusing on everyone else yet back then.[/quote]

LOL is right.

Let me be the first to quote you from the “Arnold and Schriver seperation” thread:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t even hate him for it. He didn’t break any laws even reducing that guy’s sentence. Insensitive? Yes.
Politically Incorrect? Yes.
Maybe even downright dirty? Yes.

But illegal? Nope. He got power. He used power.
[/quote]

Was it politically incorrect and insensitive to racially profile you and pull you over? Yes and yes.
Maybe even downright dirty? Yep.
Did the cop break any laws for pulling you over and questioning you? Nope.

The cop had power and he used it.

While I generally agree with what BG has to say, your hipocrisy is outstanding. [/quote]

Poetic. LOL

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[quote]postholedigger wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Do you guys have an alert system like the bat signal in the sky? Or is just you two rockets scientists PMing each other?[/quote]

When did the smoke signal go out of style? Man, those Indians knew how to set up an alert system…[/quote]

I’m not sure either could build a fire.

But she said it was unfortunate I didn’t get roughed up. Among her and I, the only thing getting “roughed up” is her cervix on a first date.

And she must not have got laid, er, I mean stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night either, because she said something about me not being able to sue, and that nothing would change. And I suggested no such thing. I made a complaint, and asserted they have a training issue. The stop was recorded. I’ll bet her dirty IUD or contraceptive sponge that it does get addressed.

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[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
I haven’t read this thread but I will repeat the story a friend told me last fall.

To start, this friend had been in some trouble in the past and spent some time locked up for a cocaine related charge. He was young, but over 18 and under 21. He also had some marijuana charges. We will call him Joe.

Anyway, he was a mess for awhile but was getting his life back together and doing a fairly good job at it. He was back in school and off any and all shit, but still on probation. Another friend of mine had a bit of a grow op going, and was hooking up this other guy a state away. Joe lent him a cooler to move some stuff up to Michigan, which was returned after a trip.

So Joe gets this cooler, throws it in his trunk, and drives within the state back home from his school and ends up getting pulled over. They run his license, see he has a record, ask to search his car, which he refuses, so they call in a dog.

If you haven’t seen the evidence, drug dogs are pretty much worthless and go off the mood of the handler. The last thing I saw on the matter, they had these dogs searching lockers at a school and they indicated something like 37 lockers and no drugs were found.

Anyway, the dog starts going nuts, they pull him out of the car and search his trunk and find the cooler. He’s freaking out at this point thinking something was left in it, which there wasn’t but it stunk to high heaven of dope. So at this point, Joe is like thank god I’m getting out of this, because technically he had done nothing wrong and they had no evidence to charge him with anything.

So, they go in and search the interior of the car, then the officer comes back with a joint. Now, Joe swears up and down that it is not his and that the cop planted it and judging by his efforts to move on and get away from all the stuff he used to do, I tend to believe him. It was a new car, and maybe a passenger dropped it in there, but I doubt it as he was on probation and paranoid about even being around the stuff.

Regardless, they charged him with possession which broke his probation and he was thrown back into a world of legal bullshit for awhile, but is doing just fine now.

Either way, when I heard that I was raging for awhile and a cop would actually do something like that, but I’m sure it happens all the time.

[/quote]

It’s weird that he was convicted based on a search he didn’t agree to.

A couple years ago when I was taking a law course we covered a case where police pulled over a man for one reason, searched the car, and came up with a trunkful of heroine. However, the case was dismissed on grounds that the search was illegal; there was no warrant and the cops had violated the law by searching his car against his will when there was no reason to suspect him.

Maybe the law changed or the state laws differ a bit, but it sounds like your friend needs a better lawyer.

As for standing up to the cops on principle; it’s really pointless. Nothing is going to come of what BG did. Some officers are not going to stop being dicks and questions aren’t going to stop being asked. Officers aren’t going to start being better trained in the law because of this either.

BG was completely in his right to do what he did and the officers didn’t do anything that could get them sued, so really this is just a standard situation where no one was harmed and thus no difference can be made law or training wise. It’s unfortunate for his mental “must prove a point” sake that BG wasn’t roughed up a bit.[/quote]

Your childhood is unfortunate for your adulthood, and future. The other attention whore was here, I knew the other couldn’t be far behind. Do you guys have an alert system like the bat signal in the sky? Or is just you two rockets scientists PMing each other?[/quote]

I don’t know what BG is rambling about, but he didn’t get a lawyer the second time around as he was paying for school and just paid a bunch for a lawyer in the first situation. I think that’s why they targeted him; young guy, already in the system for trouble, in school so money is tight, so he really couldn’t credibly fight it.

He ended up just submitting and bending over basically, but it was the best option for him, and he got through it fine.
[/quote]

The difference in how the different income levels experience the law due to availability of decent lawyers really is bullshit. I’m sure you’re right about why he was targeted.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Well, I have had “a little” experience with the police LOL. Of the six times I’ve ever been arrested, FOUR of them I’ve been beaten, roughed up or ended up pissing blood (the other two I was a minor and I guess they thought my mom would give a shit or something). Of the twenty or so times I’ve been pulled over for “traffic violations” I’ve been beaten SIX times. For NO reason at all. Not charged, no ticket, just beaten up (four of those times were in PG county MD, the other two in Baltimore City). Many of the other times I was asked to exit the vehicle and they searched it against my wishes.

[/quote]

I’m taking it you didn’t have the money for a lawyer when this was happening?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
I haven’t read this thread but I will repeat the story a friend told me last fall.

To start, this friend had been in some trouble in the past and spent some time locked up for a cocaine related charge. He was young, but over 18 and under 21. He also had some marijuana charges. We will call him Joe.

Anyway, he was a mess for awhile but was getting his life back together and doing a fairly good job at it. He was back in school and off any and all shit, but still on probation. Another friend of mine had a bit of a grow op going, and was hooking up this other guy a state away. Joe lent him a cooler to move some stuff up to Michigan, which was returned after a trip.

So Joe gets this cooler, throws it in his trunk, and drives within the state back home from his school and ends up getting pulled over. They run his license, see he has a record, ask to search his car, which he refuses, so they call in a dog.

If you haven’t seen the evidence, drug dogs are pretty much worthless and go off the mood of the handler. The last thing I saw on the matter, they had these dogs searching lockers at a school and they indicated something like 37 lockers and no drugs were found.

Anyway, the dog starts going nuts, they pull him out of the car and search his trunk and find the cooler. He’s freaking out at this point thinking something was left in it, which there wasn’t but it stunk to high heaven of dope. So at this point, Joe is like thank god I’m getting out of this, because technically he had done nothing wrong and they had no evidence to charge him with anything.

So, they go in and search the interior of the car, then the officer comes back with a joint. Now, Joe swears up and down that it is not his and that the cop planted it and judging by his efforts to move on and get away from all the stuff he used to do, I tend to believe him. It was a new car, and maybe a passenger dropped it in there, but I doubt it as he was on probation and paranoid about even being around the stuff.

Regardless, they charged him with possession which broke his probation and he was thrown back into a world of legal bullshit for awhile, but is doing just fine now.

Either way, when I heard that I was raging for awhile and a cop would actually do something like that, but I’m sure it happens all the time.

[/quote]

It’s weird that he was convicted based on a search he didn’t agree to.

A couple years ago when I was taking a law course we covered a case where police pulled over a man for one reason, searched the car, and came up with a trunkful of heroine. However, the case was dismissed on grounds that the search was illegal; there was no warrant and the cops had violated the law by searching his car against his will when there was no reason to suspect him.

Maybe the law changed or the state laws differ a bit, but it sounds like your friend needs a better lawyer.

As for standing up to the cops on principle; it’s really pointless. Nothing is going to come of what BG did. Some officers are not going to stop being dicks and questions aren’t going to stop being asked. Officers aren’t going to start being better trained in the law because of this either.

BG was completely in his right to do what he did and the officers didn’t do anything that could get them sued, so really this is just a standard situation where no one was harmed and thus no difference can be made law or training wise. It’s unfortunate for his mental “must prove a point” sake that BG wasn’t roughed up a bit.[/quote]

Olee, pay attention to the story. He violated his probation. You don’t need to be convicted of anything in order to violate your probation. Not only that but there are all kinds of restrictions in place to make sure you’re being a good boy while on probation. If you fail to be that good boy it’s back to the slammer.[/quote]

Don’t interrupt her, she’s a legal scholar now.

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Well, I have had “a little” experience with the police LOL. Of the six times I’ve ever been arrested, FOUR of them I’ve been beaten, roughed up or ended up pissing blood (the other two I was a minor and I guess they thought my mom would give a shit or something). Of the twenty or so times I’ve been pulled over for “traffic violations” I’ve been beaten SIX times. For NO reason at all. Not charged, no ticket, just beaten up (four of those times were in PG county MD, the other two in Baltimore City). Many of the other times I was asked to exit the vehicle and they searched it against my wishes.

[/quote]

I’m taking it you didn’t have the money for a lawyer when this was happening?[/quote]

The first two times my lawyer told me that I was lucky to have been acquitted of the resisting arrest and assault on police officer charges (and no, I didn’t resist arrest or hit any cops but that’s how they wrote it up). The second time my lawyer used it as a bargaining chip to have the other charges dismissed. The final time, I took a plea bargain and the other charges went away. I wasn’t exactly an angel back then, but that’s no excuse for them to violate my civil rights.

As for the stops on the side of the road, it’s kinda hard to see a badge number when there’s a flashlight shining in your face and then your back is to them while they kidney punch you. I actually tried reporting it the first time it happened and after a few months of red tape and no progress chalked it up to a lesson learned: don’t drive at night in PG county MD. Shit, that’s one reason I moved to Virginia - the cops are assholes, but at least in Arlington and Fairfax they seem to be less corrupt and more accountable.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
I haven’t read this thread but I will repeat the story a friend told me last fall.

To start, this friend had been in some trouble in the past and spent some time locked up for a cocaine related charge. He was young, but over 18 and under 21. He also had some marijuana charges. We will call him Joe.

Anyway, he was a mess for awhile but was getting his life back together and doing a fairly good job at it. He was back in school and off any and all shit, but still on probation. Another friend of mine had a bit of a grow op going, and was hooking up this other guy a state away. Joe lent him a cooler to move some stuff up to Michigan, which was returned after a trip.

So Joe gets this cooler, throws it in his trunk, and drives within the state back home from his school and ends up getting pulled over. They run his license, see he has a record, ask to search his car, which he refuses, so they call in a dog.

If you haven’t seen the evidence, drug dogs are pretty much worthless and go off the mood of the handler. The last thing I saw on the matter, they had these dogs searching lockers at a school and they indicated something like 37 lockers and no drugs were found.

Anyway, the dog starts going nuts, they pull him out of the car and search his trunk and find the cooler. He’s freaking out at this point thinking something was left in it, which there wasn’t but it stunk to high heaven of dope. So at this point, Joe is like thank god I’m getting out of this, because technically he had done nothing wrong and they had no evidence to charge him with anything.

So, they go in and search the interior of the car, then the officer comes back with a joint. Now, Joe swears up and down that it is not his and that the cop planted it and judging by his efforts to move on and get away from all the stuff he used to do, I tend to believe him. It was a new car, and maybe a passenger dropped it in there, but I doubt it as he was on probation and paranoid about even being around the stuff.

Regardless, they charged him with possession which broke his probation and he was thrown back into a world of legal bullshit for awhile, but is doing just fine now.

Either way, when I heard that I was raging for awhile and a cop would actually do something like that, but I’m sure it happens all the time.

[/quote]

It’s weird that he was convicted based on a search he didn’t agree to.

A couple years ago when I was taking a law course we covered a case where police pulled over a man for one reason, searched the car, and came up with a trunkful of heroine. However, the case was dismissed on grounds that the search was illegal; there was no warrant and the cops had violated the law by searching his car against his will when there was no reason to suspect him.

Maybe the law changed or the state laws differ a bit, but it sounds like your friend needs a better lawyer.

As for standing up to the cops on principle; it’s really pointless. Nothing is going to come of what BG did. Some officers are not going to stop being dicks and questions aren’t going to stop being asked. Officers aren’t going to start being better trained in the law because of this either.

BG was completely in his right to do what he did and the officers didn’t do anything that could get them sued, so really this is just a standard situation where no one was harmed and thus no difference can be made law or training wise. It’s unfortunate for his mental “must prove a point” sake that BG wasn’t roughed up a bit.[/quote]

Olee, pay attention to the story. He violated his probation. You don’t need to be convicted of anything in order to violate your probation. Not only that but there are all kinds of restrictions in place to make sure you’re being a good boy while on probation. If you fail to be that good boy it’s back to the slammer.[/quote]

The violation of the probation was the weed they “found” not the fact that he was driving around. You’re right about the restrictions, though.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Well, I have had “a little” experience with the police LOL. Of the six times I’ve ever been arrested, FOUR of them I’ve been beaten, roughed up or ended up pissing blood (the other two I was a minor and I guess they thought my mom would give a shit or something). Of the twenty or so times I’ve been pulled over for “traffic violations” I’ve been beaten SIX times. For NO reason at all. Not charged, no ticket, just beaten up (four of those times were in PG county MD, the other two in Baltimore City). Many of the other times I was asked to exit the vehicle and they searched it against my wishes.

[/quote]

I’m taking it you didn’t have the money for a lawyer when this was happening?[/quote]

The first two times my lawyer told me that I was lucky to have been acquitted of the resisting arrest and assault on police officer charges (and no, I didn’t resist arrest or hit any cops but that’s how they wrote it up). The second time my lawyer used it as a bargaining chip to have the other charges dismissed. The final time, I took a plea bargain and the other charges went away. I wasn’t exactly an angel back then, but that’s no excuse for them to violate my civil rights.

As for the stops on the side of the road, it’s kinda hard to see a badge number when there’s a flashlight shining in your face and then your back is to them while they kidney punch you. I actually tried reporting it the first time it happened and after a few months of red tape and no progress chalked it up to a lesson learned: don’t drive at night in PG county MD. Shit, that’s one reason I moved to Virginia - the cops are assholes, but at least in Arlington and Fairfax they seem to be less corrupt and more accountable.[/quote]

It’s sad when the best thing that happens for you in your case is having the shit beat out of you. Hope it never happens again.

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BG, if your letter is ever addressed, please let us know. I’d be interested in what the police have to say.

I too, have never had a positive experience with a LEO, and I’d like to think that I’m nothing but an an honest, upstanding citizen, minding my own damn business.

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

It’s sad when the best thing that happens for you in your case is having the shit beat out of you. Hope it never happens again.[/quote]

Me too! LOL And to be perfectly honest, I’ve taken a FAR worse ass-kicking than anything a cop ever did to me.

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[quote]Silvergoat 66 wrote:
As an LEO I can faithfully state that the OP’s course of action was appropriate and , in the interest of quality assurance, needed. There are lots of under-trained rookies and complacent veteran officers that need a “refresher” on the standards of conduct and letter of the law. I’m not saying that the officer in question should have any form of administrative punishment, but his supervisor should take heed and require some sort of remedial action in the form of extra training, or, making a house call and apologizing for the poor conduct. This would at least help rehabilitate his kids image of LEOs in general.

Please don’t group the entire LE community into one genre of incompetent assholes. The actions of a few shouldn’t speak for the community as a whole.

Just remember that in order to prevent other people from experiencing the same problem, you got to do exactly the kind of thing that the OP did. That is, doing the exact opposite of what that kid did in the PA Carry Video… [/quote]

So I have a question for you since you are a LEO in my current state. Have you ever heard of or seen any of your fellow officers roughing up someone or using excessive force? Have your heard any of them talk about it in the locker room or telling a story about it in a social setting?

Also, have you ever had the fortune to interact with any officers from Prince Georges County in Maryland? Virginia is a big state, so perhaps you aren’t near the border and haven’t even heard of PG county, but if you have, would you share with us your impression and/or the reputation of that PD?

For the record, I have had a few interactions with the police in VA (Fairfax and Arlington) and they make the cops from MD look like amateurs. I’m not starting a beef with you, I’m a resident of your state asking an honest question.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Your childhood is unfortunate for your adulthood, and future. The other attention whore was here, I knew the other couldn’t be far behind. Do you guys have an alert system like the bat signal in the sky? Or is just you two rockets scientists PMing each other?[/quote]

lol it must be hard to carry all that hostility.

No worries though. I am entertained.

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

As for standing up to the cops on principle; it’s really pointless. Nothing is going to come of what BG did. Some officers are not going to stop being dicks and questions aren’t going to stop being asked. Officers aren’t going to start being better trained in the law because of this either.

BG was completely in his right to do what he did and the officers didn’t do anything that could get them sued, so really this is just a standard situation where no one was harmed and thus no difference can be made law or training wise. It’s unfortunate for his mental “must prove a point” sake that BG wasn’t roughed up a bit.[/quote]

I have a problem with your post.
Is it your position that we shouldn’t do any thing about our rights being violated because it won’t make a difference?
If we don’t look out for our own rights who will?
I think it is better if everyone knows their rights and exercises them in small ways like the op’s situation because it is easier and safer to exercise them then rather than when they are locked up for being wrongfully accused of murder(like in AC’s post).

The police don’t become corrupt are overnight it happens because the citizens allow them to get away with small violation of their rights then it escalates. If we aren’t going to look after our own rights maybe we don’t deserve them.
Also I didn’t like the wanting him to be “roughed up”, his child was in the car. I guess there is some kind of private disagreement going on here.