Legalizing Weed

Jesus crowd is getting sad in today’s world. Holding the world from moving forward by old beliefs that no one has seen only heard about. I’m not going to get into that because this topic is about weed. Weed has been around for thousands of years. One of the main reasons it became illegal is because timber and cotton was being replaced by hemp because it is a better material.

It makes me think of this commercial from the 50s or 60s where a guy smokes weed and then goes crazy. They acted like that is the effects of smoking weed. People are good at being told what to do and what to believe. Instead of basing your opinion on facts and real life experiences, people just do what they are told. I should have the right to choose if I can smoke weed or not. The government shouldn’t have that control over me.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hey Pitt did you and your pals get pot legalized yet?

No?

You mean all the posts about how good it is has had no effect yet on those who actually make these types of decisions?

That’s a shame…[/quote]

Hey Zeb , you haven’t answered my question. What do we get for the HUGE cost of this war on drugs?[/quote]

Less people taking drugs.

(yawn)[/quote]

how many less ?
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Much less than if it were legal. [/quote]

bull shit
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According to your faulty logic if Colgate wants to sell more toothpaste they should ask the government to make it illegal. Because you think that any product that is legal, institutionalized and large sums of money spent advertising it will actually sell LESS!

Pittski you suffer from rationalization. YOU like pot so therefore YOU think that it should be legalized. And YOU say stupid shit to back up your desire…and actually believe it.

Fact: When a product (any product) is legal and more readily available it will sell more.

Fact: When a product has an advertising budget it will sell more.

Fact: When a product is legitimized it will sell more.

Try another angle …hey here’s one:

“I really really like pot and want it to be legal”

That would make more sense than your current nonsense!

LOL

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

It is the part of Zeb that knows all . And if Zeb knows it ,it is fact :slight_smile:
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All you have to do is disprove the facts that I’ve laid out.

Start with this one:

Why does every American company that has ever succeeded big used advertising as one tool to do it. Now tell us why if pot were legal and it was advertised that there would actually be LESS sold.

Either advertising works or it doesn’t. And if it works then why wouldn’t it work to sell more pot, if pot were legalized?

There is a lot of stupid on this thread and most of it has been lead by you.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

It is the part of Zeb that knows all . And if Zeb knows it ,it is fact :slight_smile:
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All you have to do is disprove the facts that I’ve laid out.

Start with this one:

Why does every American company that has ever succeeded big used advertising as one tool to do it. Now tell us why if pot were legal and it was advertised that there would actually be LESS sold.

Either advertising works or it doesn’t. And if it works then why wouldn’t it work to sell more pot, if pot were legalized?

There is a lot of stupid on this thread and most of it has been lead by you.
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what (FACTS) are those

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hey Pitt did you and your pals get pot legalized yet?

No?

You mean all the posts about how good it is has had no effect yet on those who actually make these types of decisions?

That’s a shame…[/quote]

Hey Zeb , you haven’t answered my question. What do we get for the HUGE cost of this war on drugs?[/quote]

Less people taking drugs.

(yawn)[/quote]

how many less ?
[/quote]

Much less than if it were legal. [/quote]

bull shit
[/quote]

According to your faulty logic if Colgate wants to sell more toothpaste they should ask the government to make it illegal. Because you think that any product that is legal, institutionalized and large sums of money spent advertising it will actually sell LESS!

Pittski you suffer from rationalization. YOU like pot so therefore YOU think that it should be legalized. And YOU say stupid shit to back up your desire…and actually believe it.

Fact: When a product (any product) is legal and more readily available it will sell more.

Fact: When a product has an advertising budget it will sell more.

Fact: When a product is legitimized it will sell more.

Try another angle …hey here’s one:

“I really really like pot and want it to be legal”

That would make more sense than your current nonsense!

LOL

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http://norml.org/marijuana/personal/item/marijuana-decriminalization-its-impact-on-use-2#intl_studies

Yawn :slight_smile:

Advertising is primarily used for branding much more so than product introduction. There is no need to introduce a product that already has a large market most of the advertising would be branding related.

As well it could be easily restricted like beer and smokes.

Tobacco companies used and still use where its legal the free giveaway as an introductory method which I suppose you could call advertising.

In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Pittski you suffer from rationalization.
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Guilty again Zeb , I hate to complement you after such a terrible slam but you suffer from irrationalism

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hey Pitt did you and your pals get pot legalized yet?

No?

You mean all the posts about how good it is has had no effect yet on those who actually make these types of decisions?

That’s a shame…[/quote]

Hey Zeb , you haven’t answered my question. What do we get for the HUGE cost of this war on drugs?[/quote]

Less people taking drugs.

(yawn)[/quote]

how many less ?
[/quote]

Much less than if it were legal. [/quote]

bull shit
[/quote]

According to your faulty logic if Colgate wants to sell more toothpaste they should ask the government to make it illegal. Because you think that any product that is legal, institutionalized and large sums of money spent advertising it will actually sell LESS!

Pittski you suffer from rationalization. YOU like pot so therefore YOU think that it should be legalized. And YOU say stupid shit to back up your desire…and actually believe it.

Fact: When a product (any product) is legal and more readily available it will sell more.

Fact: When a product has an advertising budget it will sell more.

Fact: When a product is legitimized it will sell more.

Try another angle …hey here’s one:

“I really really like pot and want it to be legal”

That would make more sense than your current nonsense!

LOL

[/quote]

http://norml.org/marijuana/personal/item/marijuana-decriminalization-its-impact-on-use-2#intl_studies

Yawn :slight_smile:
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Wow a pro legalize pot web site says that less people would use pot if it were legalized.

Ha ha ha

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud!

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud![/quote]

I think we should start a war on Ny Quil , it makes as much sense. I would rather some one drive after smoking up than after taking Ny quil .

I personally have learned to deal with pot being illegal.

If I get caught it will only cost you $30,000 a year to keep me in prison

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud![/quote]

I think we should start a war on Ny Quil , it makes as much sense. I would rather some one drive after smoking up than after taking Ny quil .

I personally have learned to deal with pot being illegal.

If I get caught it will only cost you $30,000 a year to keep me in prison[/quote]

I’ll be glad to pay for the first year out of my own pocket. :wink:

No seriously, if you do go to jail at least you’ll be among friends. You guys can hang out in the prison yard and talk about how unfair the pot laws are. LOL

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hey Pitt did you and your pals get pot legalized yet?

No?

You mean all the posts about how good it is has had no effect yet on those who actually make these types of decisions?

That’s a shame…[/quote]

Hey Zeb , you haven’t answered my question. What do we get for the HUGE cost of this war on drugs?[/quote]

Less people taking drugs.

(yawn)[/quote]

how many less ?
[/quote]

Much less than if it were legal. [/quote]

bull shit
[/quote]

According to your faulty logic if Colgate wants to sell more toothpaste they should ask the government to make it illegal. Because you think that any product that is legal, institutionalized and large sums of money spent advertising it will actually sell LESS!

Pittski you suffer from rationalization. YOU like pot so therefore YOU think that it should be legalized. And YOU say stupid shit to back up your desire…and actually believe it.

Fact: When a product (any product) is legal and more readily available it will sell more.

Fact: When a product has an advertising budget it will sell more.

Fact: When a product is legitimized it will sell more.

Try another angle …hey here’s one:

“I really really like pot and want it to be legal”

That would make more sense than your current nonsense!

LOL

[/quote]

http://norml.org/marijuana/personal/item/marijuana-decriminalization-its-impact-on-use-2#intl_studies

Yawn :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Wow a pro legalize pot web site says that less people would use pot if it were legalized.

Ha ha ha[/quote]

Ha Ha Ha , if you go to that kink there are many case studies linked

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud![/quote]

I think we should start a war on Ny Quil , it makes as much sense. I would rather some one drive after smoking up than after taking Ny quil .

I personally have learned to deal with pot being illegal.

If I get caught it will only cost you $30,000 a year to keep me in prison[/quote]

I’ll be glad to pay for the first year out of my own pocket. :wink:

No seriously, if you do go to jail at least you’ll be among friends. You guys can hang out in the prison yard and talk about how unfair the pot laws are. LOL

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.
[/quote]

When I go to prison I will have to learn a new trade, because I will no longer be bondable or even employable in to days market , I think I will study Credit card fraud or maybe burglary may be even armed robbery

you will also have to support my ex wife and my 14 kids plus my present wife and 12 more kids :slight_smile:
I hope you don’t go broke on the first year :slight_smile:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud![/quote]

I think we should start a war on Ny Quil , it makes as much sense. I would rather some one drive after smoking up than after taking Ny quil .

I personally have learned to deal with pot being illegal.

If I get caught it will only cost you $30,000 a year to keep me in prison[/quote]

I’ll be glad to pay for the first year out of my own pocket. :wink:

No seriously, if you do go to jail at least you’ll be among friends. You guys can hang out in the prison yard and talk about how unfair the pot laws are. LOL

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.
[/quote]

When I go to prison I will have to learn a new trade, because I will no longer be bondable or even employable in to days market , I think I will study Credit card fraud or maybe burglary may be even armed robbery

you will also have to support my ex wife and my 14 kids plus my present wife and 12 more kids :slight_smile:
I hope you don’t go broke on the first year :slight_smile:
[/quote]

If you are actually worried about it (and obviously you are not) all you have to do is to give up smoking pot.

Also, you still have to tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users. Since this is the crux of my argument if you cannot answer these questions then the debate is over.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud![/quote]

I think we should start a war on Ny Quil , it makes as much sense. I would rather some one drive after smoking up than after taking Ny quil .

I personally have learned to deal with pot being illegal.

If I get caught it will only cost you $30,000 a year to keep me in prison[/quote]

I’ll be glad to pay for the first year out of my own pocket. :wink:

No seriously, if you do go to jail at least you’ll be among friends. You guys can hang out in the prison yard and talk about how unfair the pot laws are. LOL

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.
[/quote]

When I go to prison I will have to learn a new trade, because I will no longer be bondable or even employable in to days market , I think I will study Credit card fraud or maybe burglary may be even armed robbery

you will also have to support my ex wife and my 14 kids plus my present wife and 12 more kids :slight_smile:
I hope you don’t go broke on the first year :slight_smile:
[/quote]

If you are actually worried about it (and obviously you are not) all you have to do is to give up smoking pot.

Also, you still have to tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users. Since this is the crux of my argument if you cannot answer these questions then the debate is over.

[/quote]

I gave you that much Zeb , that there would probably be an increase in usage . You will have to take it from me or not . I would rather my kids smoke pot than drink alcohol. I know a lot of pot smokers .None have problems with weed . I do know more people that drink and I would say there is a given percent that have problems with alcohol.

Yes Zeb weed should be illegal because…? You use anything to much it can kill or damage you. You can die from drinking too much water. Water intoxication where your brain gets suspended. Yes lets put more people in jail because that solves problems.

Too funny, had to share

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In Zeb’s defense I could see a small up in the use , but imo very negligible . Nothing to the tune of the cost of this silly war [/quote]

The cost of the “silly war” keeps the costs of more kids using pot down. It also keeps more people in general from using pot.

This in turn keeps medical costs down and the pain of more traffic fatalities down.

It’s always easy to look at something that YOU don’t think is working and make a claim that it would be better if that thing were removed. But you have to ask yourself what the trade off is.

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.

You cannot get beyond this with your silly argument. And fortunately those in power who are making the decisions are aware of those three facts. And they’ve actually have gotten this one right. There will be no legalization of pot in your lifetime bud![/quote]

I think we should start a war on Ny Quil , it makes as much sense. I would rather some one drive after smoking up than after taking Ny quil .

I personally have learned to deal with pot being illegal.

If I get caught it will only cost you $30,000 a year to keep me in prison[/quote]

I’ll be glad to pay for the first year out of my own pocket. :wink:

No seriously, if you do go to jail at least you’ll be among friends. You guys can hang out in the prison yard and talk about how unfair the pot laws are. LOL

Now get busy and tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users.
[/quote]

When I go to prison I will have to learn a new trade, because I will no longer be bondable or even employable in to days market , I think I will study Credit card fraud or maybe burglary may be even armed robbery

you will also have to support my ex wife and my 14 kids plus my present wife and 12 more kids :slight_smile:
I hope you don’t go broke on the first year :slight_smile:
[/quote]

If you are actually worried about it (and obviously you are not) all you have to do is to give up smoking pot.

Also, you still have to tell me how legitimizing pot increasing it’s availability and advertising it will not cause far more users. Since this is the crux of my argument if you cannot answer these questions then the debate is over.

[/quote]

I gave you that much Zeb , that there would probably be an increase in usage . You will have to take it from me or not . I would rather my kids smoke pot than drink alcohol. I know a lot of pot smokers .None have problems with weed . I do know more people that drink and I would say there is a given percent that have problems with alcohol.
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I said from the beginning if you had to rationalize legalization of pot based upon how bad alcohol is that is a losing argument. The reason being that you are comparing two things that both have potentially dangerous consequences if used. How is that actually good for society?

It’s like saying you want to die by gun shot because it’s less painful than burning to death. Well…I suppose it is but dying by gun shot is still not a pleasant proposition.

And you’ve admitted that if pot is legitimized, advertised and is more available that more people will be using it.

I think I can pretty much move on there is no good argument (to found on this thread at least) for legalizing pot.

[quote]T11 wrote:
Yes Zeb weed should be illegal because…? You use anything to much it can kill or damage you. You can die from drinking too much water. Water intoxication where your brain gets suspended. Yes lets put more people in jail because that solves problems. [/quote]

LOL…kids (eye roll)