[quote]pat wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
While it may currently be the case to some extent, the group is a grassroots resistance movement, not some pion as your statement suggests. It thrives thanks to private donations from the Lebanese people. It sure gets support from Syria and Iran, but the group remains independent. The idea that they’re anyone’s bitch is preposterous.
Thank you for that laughable gloss.
Damn, you beat me too…Lixy, you are hitting a new level of low today. What the fuck? Hezbolah are a bunch of murdering thugs who are ultra fanatical and nasty, everything you claim, you aren’t but you’re happy to support them. Is this the moderate islam you are preporting is the norm in islam not “freaks” like al qaeda? These anti semitic murders, are they moderate?[/quote]
Which is it? Are these terrorists grass roots and thus supported by the general Muslim population or not?
Lixy seems to change his mind all the time on this subject.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the militia members in the actual military then them having their own military?
I really wish we could find Israel a nice chunk of land to move to and let these extremist idiot’s off each other and blasts themselves back to the stone ages. I know that will never happen.
Adam
[quote]lixy wrote:
adamhum wrote:
It seems like they are just trying to prove a point and not occupy the country. How a country allows a militia military to exist and grow strong in it’s borders is beyond me.
When your military fails at protecting your borders, and a militia does a better job at it, you’re pretty much forced to allow it to exist. Else, you’ll have huge riots on your hands.
It’s just another example of how large countries use smaller weaker countries to be there bitch and wage war by proxy.
While it may currently be the case to some extent, the group is a grassroots resistance movement, not some pion as your statement suggests. It thrives thanks to private donations from the Lebanese people. It sure gets support from Syria and Iran, but the group remains independent. The idea that they’re anyone’s bitch is preposterous.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Which is it? Are these terrorists grass roots and thus supported by the general Muslim population or not? [/quote]
You view them as terrorists. The rest of the world doesn’t.
And in case you didn’t know, Hezbollah has overwhelming support from Christians in Lebanon. And if they was any sizable Hindu or Scientologist communities in Lebanon, you can be certain that they’d consider Hezbollah a resistance movement.
[quote]adamhum wrote:
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the militia members in the actual military then them having their own military? [/quote]
In an ideal world, yes. But the deadlock in Lebanese politics ensures that this will never happen. You see, some country (fingers point to Syria) keep assassinating everybody that has a chance to stand up to Siniora. Meanwhile, Hezbollah garners more support courtesy of the Israeli incursions.
Zionists would never agree to such a deal. They put too much effort into getting there for you to magically relocate them to the desert of Mexico.
What’s certain is that Lebanon would be a much better place…
[quote]lixy wrote:
adamhum wrote:
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the militia members in the actual military then them having their own military?
In an ideal world, yes. But the deadlock in Lebanese politics ensures that this will never happen. You see, some country (fingers point to Syria) keep assassinating everybody that has a chance to stand up to Siniora. Meanwhile, Hezbollah garners more support courtesy of the Israeli incursions.
I really wish we could find Israel a nice chunk of land to move to and let these extremist idiot’s off each other and blasts themselves back to the stone ages.
Zionists would never agree to such a deal. They put too much effort into getting there for you to magically relocate them to the desert of Mexico.
What’s certain is that Lebanon would be a much better place…[/quote]
Why don’t you have the balls to just say “Jooos” instead of “Zionists?” We all know what you mean.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Which is it? Are these terrorists grass roots and thus supported by the general Muslim population or not?
You view them as terrorists. The rest of the world doesn’t.
And in case you didn’t know, Hezbollah has overwhelming support from Christians in Lebanon. And if they was any sizable Hindu or Scientologist communities in Lebanon, you can be certain that they’d consider Hezbollah a resistance movement.[/quote]
It doesn’t matter who likes them and who doesn’t. They are violent terrorists who murder innocent people with out regard or shame. This is a fact. What the fuck is Hezbolah resisting? They are just a strap-on for Syria and Iran to increase their presence and power in the middle east and to try and fuck the asshole of Israel. That’s all they are, pathetic whores of Iran and Syria.
Resistance movement my fucking ass. Murdering cocksucking thieves and murders…
Is this the “moderate islam” of which you speak? They are doing it after all, it the name of Islam.
[quote]lixy wrote:
adamhum wrote:
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the militia members in the actual military then them having their own military?
In an ideal world, yes. But the deadlock in Lebanese politics ensures that this will never happen. You see, some country (fingers point to Syria) keep assassinating everybody that has a chance to stand up to Siniora. Meanwhile, Hezbollah garners more support courtesy of the Israeli incursions.
I really wish we could find Israel a nice chunk of land to move to and let these extremist idiot’s off each other and blasts themselves back to the stone ages.
Zionists would never agree to such a deal. They put too much effort into getting there for you to magically relocate them to the desert of Mexico.
What’s certain is that Lebanon would be a much better place…[/quote]
They don’t need to move. They got a perfect place right where they are at. Lebanon and the greater middle east would still be a shit hole because it is run but extremist idiots.
I bet that if we threatened to cut off the billions of dollars we send in aide to Isreal, they might agree to move, but I doubt it, they would stay on principal. We also like having an Ally in the region.
There will never be peace when all the surrounding countries teach hate of Israel from birth.
I know there is really no answer to the conflict there. If a charismatic leader came and inspired change, that person would be assassinated in no time.
Adam
[quote]lixy wrote:
adamhum wrote:
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the militia members in the actual military then them having their own military?
In an ideal world, yes. But the deadlock in Lebanese politics ensures that this will never happen. You see, some country (fingers point to Syria) keep assassinating everybody that has a chance to stand up to Siniora. Meanwhile, Hezbollah garners more support courtesy of the Israeli incursions.
I really wish we could find Israel a nice chunk of land to move to and let these extremist idiot’s off each other and blasts themselves back to the stone ages.
Zionists would never agree to such a deal. They put too much effort into getting there for you to magically relocate them to the desert of Mexico.
What’s certain is that Lebanon would be a much better place…[/quote]
[quote]pat wrote:
It doesn’t matter who likes them and who doesn’t. [/quote]
Yes, it does. It invalidates your theory (or should I say rant?) about Islam.
[quote] They are violent terrorists who murder innocent people with out regard or shame. This is a fact. What the fuck is Hezbolah resisting? They are just a strap-on for Syria and Iran to increase their presence and power in the middle east and to try and fuck the asshole of Israel. That’s all they are, pathetic whores of Iran and Syria.
Resistance movement my fucking ass. Murdering cocksucking thieves and murders… [/quote]
Again, most of the world would disagree with this assertion. Of course, most of the world doesn’t watch Fox or CNN, so you’re at a disadvantage here.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Again, most of the world would disagree with this assertion. Of course, most of the world doesn’t watch Fox or CNN, so you’re at a disadvantage here.
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Can you prove that most of the world would disagree with this? I am sure Argentina would not agree with you.
[quote]pat wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Which is it? Are these terrorists grass roots and thus supported by the general Muslim population or not?
You view them as terrorists. The rest of the world doesn’t.
And in case you didn’t know, Hezbollah has overwhelming support from Christians in Lebanon. And if they was any sizable Hindu or Scientologist communities in Lebanon, you can be certain that they’d consider Hezbollah a resistance movement.
It doesn’t matter who likes them and who doesn’t. They are violent terrorists who murder innocent people with out regard or shame. This is a fact. What the fuck is Hezbolah resisting? They are just a strap-on for Syria and Iran to increase their presence and power in the middle east and to try and fuck the asshole of Israel. That’s all they are, pathetic whores of Iran and Syria.
Resistance movement my fucking ass. Murdering cocksucking thieves and murders…
Is this the “moderate islam” of which you speak? They are doing it after all, it the name of Islam.[/quote]
Hezbollah are bad people, don’t get me wrong, but they are resisting Israel, which invaded their country in 1982, stayed in the south for nearly twenty more years, re-invaded two years ago, and still occupies small bits of their territory. They may terrorists, but they weren’t created in a vacuum.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
lixy wrote:
adamhum wrote:
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the militia members in the actual military then them having their own military?
In an ideal world, yes. But the deadlock in Lebanese politics ensures that this will never happen. You see, some country (fingers point to Syria) keep assassinating everybody that has a chance to stand up to Siniora. Meanwhile, Hezbollah garners more support courtesy of the Israeli incursions.
I really wish we could find Israel a nice chunk of land to move to and let these extremist idiot’s off each other and blasts themselves back to the stone ages.
Zionists would never agree to such a deal. They put too much effort into getting there for you to magically relocate them to the desert of Mexico.
What’s certain is that Lebanon would be a much better place…
Why don’t you have the balls to just say “Jooos” instead of “Zionists?” We all know what you mean.[/quote]
Because they’re not the same thing. Compare American Jewish opinion to AIPAC’s policies, for example.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Which is it? Are these terrorists grass roots and thus supported by the general Muslim population or not?
You view them as terrorists. The rest of the world doesn’t.
And in case you didn’t know, Hezbollah has overwhelming support from Christians in Lebanon.
I sincerely doubt that. The Maronites largely fought on Israel’s side in the 80’s, even if some of the current Christian politicians are pro-Syrian.[/quote]
“Some of the current Christian politicians”? In case you didn’t know, Aoun’s Free Patriotic Movement is the country’s largest Christian political party. I have a good deal of Maronite relatives in Lebanon. And while they’d rather choke than vote for Nasr’Allah, they all praise the work Hezbollah is doing in keeping Israel in check.
There’s this poll by the Beirut Center for Research and Information (read: heavily pro-Siniora), that showed how eighty percent of Christians polled supported Hizbullah along with 80 percent of Druze and 89 percent of Sunnis.
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Again, most of the world would disagree with this assertion. Of course, most of the world doesn’t watch Fox or CNN, so you’re at a disadvantage here.[/quote]
Most of the world is also retarded from contiminated water supplies.
Most of the world live in dire poverty and whipe their ass with their hand, BUT ITS THE LEFT HAND, AND NOT THE RIGHT!
[quote]lixy wrote:
And while they’d rather choke than vote for Nasr’Allah, they all praise the work Hezbollah is doing in keeping Israel in check.
[/quote]
Keeping them in check???!!!
If Hezbollah was not there, Israel would have no reason to bother with Lebanon.