[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Dude, he killed the daughter of his police force captain. [/quote]
This. No way can that be defended. Guy is a psycho, hope they take him out before he kills someone else’s kid.
I’m sure half the shit he’s raving about is true - LAPD is not exactly known for being free of racism or corruption, but he’s killing innocent, defenseless people.
Not the actions of a “hero” by any possible definition.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
From my understanding, Captain Quan let him be terminated and looked the other way. I don’t agree with Dorner’s actions, but if Capt. Quan had some integrity back then, things would be different now, wouldn’t they?[/quote]
Oh so it’s his own fault that this guy murdered his daughter and future son in law.
With his supposed lack of integrity I guess he had it coming right?[/quote]
Every action has a re-action. It is not unthinkable that if you ruin enough peoples lives that it will come back and effect you in some way, shape or form. I mean for the most part, people just lay down and take it. But nobody should be shocked when someone doesn’t lay down anymore.
Hell people snap for a lot less than what this guy went through. People get shot all the time because they were rude at a cell phone store, or cut you off on the highway. This guy has been pushed to the breaking point. He is now broken according to society, but society (in this case the subsection of the LAPD) is entirely responsible for breaking him.
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[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
He is psychotic, yeah the department is also in the wrong and maybe a tad corrupt but that doesn’t mean go on a rampage… Its an unfortunate event of a person turned insane from circumstance, There is no justification to killing another human being ever. [/quote]
Except in self defense. And the death penalty. And in some instances, euthanasia. But whatevs. [/quote]
And in war or if your fiances father lacks integrity… But you’re right. Whatevs [/quote]
Or if you are a muslim child who happens to have been born to parents (or even next door neighbors to people) who are suspected terrorists (against the US of course).
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[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
He is psychotic, yeah the department is also in the wrong and maybe a tad corrupt but that doesn’t mean go on a rampage… Its an unfortunate event of a person turned insane from circumstance, There is no justification to killing another human being ever. [/quote]
Except in self defense. And the death penalty. And in some instances, euthanasia. But whatevs. [/quote]
And in war or if your fiances father lacks integrity… But you’re right. Whatevs [/quote]
Yeah well there is self defense but I mean more so doing it because you feel justified, being physically faced with death by that person it is understandable… More so I mean killing someone in the name of you’re beliefs, religion, idealogies, governing force etc.
It seems most of you would make for a terrible Genghis Khan. Family members are off limits? Killing humans is never acceptable? What’s next, human life is sacred?
Institutionalized abuse of authority is a far more serious crime against society than a few dead cops and family. In the US, police murder innocent people on a fairly regular basis with no repercussions. Suddenly the tables are turned and it’s a travesty? Please.
[quote]grettiron wrote:
It seems most of you would make for a terrible Genghis Khan. Family members are off limits? Killing humans is never acceptable? What’s next, human life is sacred?
Institutionalized abuse of authority is a far more serious crime against society than a few dead cops and family. In the US, police murder innocent people on a fairly regular basis with no repercussions. Suddenly the tables are turned and it’s a travesty? Please. [/quote]
As long as everyone lives in their own little worlds and personal perceptions there will always be conflict… So thats why people should realize they need to get out of their own damn head and wake up into reality… Separation is violent because it leads to a clashing of view points and not to long ago people would kill you because of it, some seemingly obviously still do, its insane.
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
He is psychotic, yeah the department is also in the wrong and maybe a tad corrupt but that doesn’t mean go on a rampage… Its an unfortunate event of a person turned insane from circumstance, There is no justification to killing another human being ever. [/quote]
Except in self defense. And the death penalty. And in some instances, euthanasia. But whatevs. [/quote]
And in war or if your fiances father lacks integrity… But you’re right. Whatevs [/quote]
Yeah well there is self defense but I mean more so doing it because you feel justified, being physically faced with death by that person it is understandable… More so I mean killing someone in the name of you’re beliefs, religion, idealogies, governing force etc. [/quote]
We know, man. Just giving you some shit.
[quote]grettiron wrote:
It seems most of you would make for a terrible Genghis Khan. Family members are off limits? Killing humans is never acceptable? What’s next, human life is sacred?
Institutionalized abuse of authority is a far more serious crime against society than a few dead cops and family. In the US, police murder innocent people on a fairly regular basis with no repercussions. Suddenly the tables are turned and it’s a travesty? Please. [/quote]
Do you see anyone in this thread defending police officers abuse of power? I think not. As a matter of fact, go back to any of the other thousand police officer beating threads and you’ll see the same outrage.
So GTFO here with that garbage. 
It is not like Dorner is inconspicuous, he’s a big guy, he can’t just put on a disguise and evade attention for very long. I bet he’s regretting making his intentions so well-known. He’s either going to go down swinging or hide for as long as he can, realising his initial “goals” weren’t realistic.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
It is not like Dorner is inconspicuous, he’s a big guy, he can’t just put on a disguise and evade attention for very long. I bet he’s regretting making his intentions so well-known. He’s either going to go down swinging or hide for as long as he can, realising his initial “goals” weren’t realistic.[/quote]
His initial goal was not to kill all of those people, otherwise he would not have made his intentions known.
His goal was to get his story out there and get some revenge.
He is not a stupid guy and has more than likely been planning this out for a few years considering when he was fired. He was a cop for several years and knows how cops do things and how investigations work.
Does anyone think he is really in Big Bear? Or that he was actually trying to go to Mexico and just dropped his badge in National City?
The dude is playing to police, media and public for fools right now. He is several steps ahead.
How about the 400 homes they search with no warrant? If you told them no then what? They suspect you are hiding him and shoot you? The cops are scared and they are doing exactly what he wants them to do. They are overreaching, and the longer this goes on, the more they are going to look like the criminals. I mean it is possible for both of the parties involved to be the bad guys. I think Dormer even alluded to himself having to be a bad guy. He knows what he is doing is wrong.
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[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
It is not like Dorner is inconspicuous, he’s a big guy, he can’t just put on a disguise and evade attention for very long. I bet he’s regretting making his intentions so well-known. He’s either going to go down swinging or hide for as long as he can, realising his initial “goals” weren’t realistic.[/quote]
His initial goal was not to kill all of those people, otherwise he would not have made his intentions known.
His goal was to get his story out there and get some revenge.
He is not a stupid guy and has more than likely been planning this out for a few years considering when he was fired. He was a cop for several years and knows how cops do things and how investigations work.
Does anyone think he is really in Big Bear? Or that he was actually trying to go to Mexico and just dropped his badge in National City?
The dude is playing to police, media and public for fools right now. He is several steps ahead.[/quote]
It is not hard to dupe LAPD, or the media. The governor lied to pass his beloved Prop 30 and the press gave him a pass on that.
The police shooting two innocent people in a car that looks like his is far worse than anything he has done. If he hadn’t killed the family of the one officer I would legitimately call him a hero. It’s a little more ambiguous now but I can seriously say I hope this ends with as many dead LAPD officers as possible.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
The police shooting two innocent people in a car that looks like his is far worse than anything he has done. If he hadn’t killed the family of the one officer I would legitimately call him a hero. It’s a little more ambiguous now but I can seriously say I hope this ends with as many dead LAPD officers as possible. [/quote]
So shooting and wounding two people is worse than killing three people?
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
The police shooting two innocent people in a car that looks like his is far worse than anything he has done. If he hadn’t killed the family of the one officer I would legitimately call him a hero. It’s a little more ambiguous now but I can seriously say I hope this ends with as many dead LAPD officers as possible. [/quote]
No one was killed by the police. How is that worse than Dorner killing 3 people?
gregron, you beat me on the draw.
[quote]WN76 wrote:
gregron, you beat me on the draw. [/quote]
Too slow mi amigo.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Dude, he killed the daughter of his police force captain. [/quote]
This. No way can that be defended. Guy is a psycho, hope they take him out before he kills someone else’s kid.
I’m sure half the shit he’s raving about is true - LAPD is not exactly known for being free of racism or corruption, but he’s killing innocent, defenseless people.
Not the actions of a “hero” by any possible definition.
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This and Lanky’s post(s).
While I can understand where this guy is coming from, I can’t condone his actions.
A black guy into White zombie and Metallica should have set off some alarm bells!
Holy shit. Im not sure if this is my mentality being an Aussie, or not being in the States to experience what is happening, but how the hell are people defending this mans actions?
Reading this has made my mind explode.
Seeing Vegeta stand up for this bloke, ontop of him bashing eating meat :), I dont get what goes through peoples minds!
