LAPD Cop Killer

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
I understand what you mean. But you can’t make a fair assessment of the collateral damage of remote/drone warfare (an emerging technology that will save lives in the long run) [/quote]

Whose lives will it save though? That of soldiers or innocent civilians?

This nearly sounds like justification for these incidents. I may be misunderstanding your point though. Either way we should never be ok with collateral damage. Being ok with it provides terrorist organizations with plenty of new recruits.[/quote]

Terrorist organizations are already fine with collateral damage; that’s why they’re so successful. It’s not like they don’t kill innocent civilians. [/quote]
The difference in outlooks is why the terrorists are the “bad” guys and some Americans (perhaps not you?) are the good guys.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I am not a police officer or a lawyer so I cannot be 100% certain but I don’t think it is illegal to buy more than one wallet.[/quote]

Lol and how does one determine who’s wallet they have?
Usually by looking at id cards (licenses, Cosco Cards, Library Cards) Social Security Cards, and Credit Cards…
And how many of each one does one person usually legally have?

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I am not a police officer or a lawyer so I cannot be 100% certain but I don’t think it is illegal to buy more than one wallet.[/quote]

Lol and how does one determine who’s wallet they have?
Usually by looking at id cards (licenses, Cosco Cards, Library Cards) Social Security Cards, and Credit Cards…
And how many of each one does one person usually legally have?

[/quote]

Well it’s pretty easy to get a new license.

“Dear DMV, I wallet was stolen and I need a new drivers license.”

Or file via mail and have your old license on hand.

The guy was a CA Driver - ID Card
The guy was in the military - ID Card
The guy was a veteran - ID Card
The guy was military - Passport
The guy was military - Government Passport
The guy was an O in the military - I’m sure he had at least a secret clearance and would have an ID Badge from his command.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

He could have any number of ID’s

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I am not a police officer or a lawyer so I cannot be 100% certain but I don’t think it is illegal to buy more than one wallet.[/quote]

Don’t be obtuse. Who do you know that carries more than one wallet? It would seem that there is some misinformation at some point which is congruent with the way the rest of this scenario has played out.

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I am not a police officer or a lawyer so I cannot be 100% certain but I don’t think it is illegal to buy more than one wallet.[/quote]

Don’t be obtuse. Who do you know that carries more than one wallet? It would seem that there is some misinformation at some point which is congruent with the way the rest of this scenario has played out.[/quote]

Do you really think that a criminal who’s been planning this out for presumably years, tracks down his transgressors family, switches out license plates on vehicles so the vehicle won’t be pulled over, ditches his well known vehicle and steals another car to avoid detection just ACCIDENTILLY dropped random identifying documents in San Diego and at the Mexican border when in reality he was several hours away?

Come on maaaaaaaaan. It’s obvious he dropped those things in order to throw investigators off his trail.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I am not a police officer or a lawyer so I cannot be 100% certain but I don’t think it is illegal to buy more than one wallet.[/quote]

Don’t be obtuse. Who do you know that carries more than one wallet? It would seem that there is some misinformation at some point which is congruent with the way the rest of this scenario has played out.[/quote]

Do you really think that a criminal who’s been planning this out for presumably years, tracks down his transgressors family, switches out license plates on vehicles so the vehicle won’t be pulled over, ditches his well known vehicle and steals another car to avoid detection just ACCIDENTILLY dropped random identifying documents in San Diego and at the Mexican border when in reality he was several hours away?

Come on maaaaaaaaan. It’s obvious he dropped those things in order to throw investigators off his trail.[/quote]

You should have just stated that. At this point, we shouldn’t be questioning the legality of any of his actions, as if it were illegal to buy more than 1 wallet, Dorner would have followed that law.

Seriously, though, I had no idea what you were getting at.

That’s one hell of a wallet, to survive intact within a burning building.

The mainstream government-controlled media lies so much that they have zero credibility. See, e.g.: CNN FAKES IRAQ WAR WITH BLUE SCREEN - LEAKED FOOTAGE. - YouTube

The Dorner incident served several purposes. (1) It was conditioning to get people used to the idea of using drones for manhunts, and; (2) a way to grease the slippery slope for future escalation of domestic drone activity.

CNN had a poll asking whether drones should be used to kill Dorner. That was part one of the litmus test for pushing the drone agenda. Part two of the litmus test is public outcry (or lack thereof) from the police burning Dorner alive. The police cut the live feed of news broadcasts; they easily could have transmitted the “order to burn” off-radio.

The difference, is that seeing something live and hearing about it later provokes two very different types of reactions. Seeing something live incites a more emotional knee-jerk “we have to do something!” response. Hearing about it later produces a bovine “what can be done now?” response.

The government desperately wants the latter response. And whether people get outraged or simply shrug off the incident will instantly tell the government how accepting the population will be for additional destruction of due process/trial by jury rights. I guarantee that right now, some government officials are heads-down in some war room, deciding whether the public is conditioned enough, “ready” enough, to see a more blatant rape of Constitutional rights.

REMEMBER: Government encroachment of Constitutional rights operates under the boiling frog principle. They want to keep increasing the temperature, but never at so great a rate that we think to jump out of the pot.

TAKE HOME POINT: If you don’t get outraged, express your outrage, and convince everyone else you know to express the same level of anger, the temperature within the United States will continue getting hotter.

And I don’t know how much more this country can take. Already, we’re very close to boiling alive.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Dorner’s wallet apparently found near charred corpse. I’ve seen to much CSI/NCIS/Mentalist to definitively conclude the body is Dorner. [/quote]

Oh no, now I know he’s still alive. How convenient his wallet was right next to the corpse. Why not in the pants pocket? A clear set up to make it look like it’s his body. It was probably some hobo’s body. Dorner escaped into the woods and he will be back to wreak havoc.

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I guess I needed to scroll down a little farther to see I’m not the only one to sniff this out.

In my best Night of the Living Dead voice “He’s coming for you LAPD”

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I guess I needed to scroll down a little farther to see I’m not the only one to sniff this out.

In my best Night of the Living Dead voice “He’s coming for you LAPD”[/quote]

I’m not saying Dorner made it out alive. I doubt that he did but that is still being determined. There is just alot of strange things with this case:

-Police Shooting up 2 trucks that were nowhere near the description of Dorner’s vehicle.

-The finding of multiple wallets (I see gregron’s point about planting them to throw off the police, still strange)

-Whether the fire in the cabin was intentional or not.

-Initial statements of finding a body then retracting that statement.

-Drones have been alleged but I believe that this was later found to be false.

-Anonymous, Charlie Sheen, Jesse Jackson

All of this along with the accusations in his manifesto makes for great conspiracy theory fodder. It is a very interesting case by any standards.

[quote]GetItSon wrote:
I don’t feel people see the bigger picture of about whats happening here. The batman killer that shot up a movie theatre, the Sandy Hook incident, and now this whole Dorner thing is leading to a greater purpose. These were all set up by the governement in order for the govt to have a justification to pass a gun control law. [/quote]

Right…

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Dorner’s wallet apparently found near charred corpse. I’ve seen to much CSI/NCIS/Mentalist to definitively conclude the body is Dorner. [/quote]

Bones would know immediately if the body was his or not … shit all she would need was half his pelvic bone and two teeth and she be like “Yea that’s him” and we be like daaaaaaamn[/quote]

Bones is a bitch and you KNOW this…mayne.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Dorner’s wallet apparently found near charred corpse. I’ve seen to much CSI/NCIS/Mentalist to definitively conclude the body is Dorner. [/quote]

Bones would know immediately if the body was his or not … shit all she would need was half his pelvic bone and two teeth and she be like “Yea that’s him” and we be like daaaaaaamn[/quote]

Bones is a bitch and you KNOW this…mayne.[/quote]

Nah, She is a cold-hearted bitch … but she could identify the dude just by bone dust left after he burned (allegedly) … she might be a twat, but she’s awesome at her job, mang

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Dorner’s wallet apparently found near charred corpse. I’ve seen to much CSI/NCIS/Mentalist to definitively conclude the body is Dorner. [/quote]

Bones would know immediately if the body was his or not … shit all she would need was half his pelvic bone and two teeth and she be like “Yea that’s him” and we be like daaaaaaamn[/quote]

Bones is a bitch and you KNOW this…mayne.[/quote]

Nah, She is a cold-hearted bitch … but she could identify the dude just by bone dust left after he burned (allegedly) … she might be a twat, but she’s awesome at her job, mang[/quote]

Why Booth but his weiner in that lady is beyond me. Girl is frigid.

Now Angela… That’s a girl that likes to party.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

I am not a police officer or a lawyer so I cannot be 100% certain but I don’t think it is illegal to buy more than one wallet.[/quote]

Lol and how does one determine who’s wallet they have?
Usually by looking at id cards (licenses, Cosco Cards, Library Cards) Social Security Cards, and Credit Cards…
And how many of each one does one person usually legally have?

[/quote]

Well it’s pretty easy to get a new license.

“Dear DMV, I wallet was stolen and I need a new drivers license.”

Or file via mail and have your old license on hand.

The guy was a CA Driver - ID Card
The guy was in the military - ID Card
The guy was a veteran - ID Card
The guy was military - Passport
The guy was military - Government Passport
The guy was an O in the military - I’m sure he had at least a secret clearance and would have an ID Badge from his command.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

He could have any number of ID’s[/quote]

That’s a lot of Iron Dwarfs.

:slight_smile:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
You guys are fucked up if you think it’s an appropriate response for police to burn someone alive, even more so when they aren’t sure of who else might be in there. You fuckin’ deserve your police-state.[/quote]

The LAPD and the media are fabricating a lot of parts in this story to justify their Waco, Texas-esque actions… I bet the people Dorner tried to rob and said he never intended to hurt them will be silenced…

An ex FBI agent talked to CNN stating it was not standard procedure to start fire. Usually suspects are afforded a chance to surrender. That’s how we as the public know, but the pigs insisted that all footage, feeds get stopped. The pigs were instructed to kill him when found. They weren’t going to give him a chance to surrender. They threw incendiary grenades. Them motherfuckers burnt that shit down so Dorner would die.

Pigs lie all the time to serve their own ends, and this is one of the dirtiest police departments in the States we’re talking about. As if they’ll openly admit to what they did.

It would be a nice twist if it turns out Dorner put a corpse in the cabin to fool the cops and left, but that’s highly unlikely. I was disappointed Dorner didn’t use powerful explosives to kill everyone within a certain radius. Would’ve been a nice and effective way to go. Just a la Law Abiding Citizen.

On a side note, I still kind of laugh at that public statement LAPD Chief Charlie Beck gave a couple days ago, saying the situation where Dorner shot two cops at a red light was an act of cowardice.

An act of cowardice was a large number of police officers beating down Rodney King. An act of cowardice is shooting & killing unarmed people on a regular basis. An act of cowardice is hiding behind your badge to bully people around. Fucking motherfuking sonabitches pigs.

I’d rape Chief Beck up the ass with a crowbar, then stick it down his throat so he can taste his own shit.

Happy motherfucking Valentine Day.

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This whole thing is starting to stink quite a bit. They’ve stated that they found his wallet in the cabin but did they not also find his wallet in San Diego and near the border?[/quote]

Dun dun dun …

If his alleged body was burned to a crisp, how the fuck did his wallet survive the fire?

Too many questions for a solid case.

LAPD = Los Angeles Pig Department

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
If his alleged body was burned to a crisp, how the fuck did his wallet survive the fire?

Too many questions for a solid case.

LAPD = Los Angeles Pig Department[/quote]

that was the first question that popped into my head as well ID

I usually don’t place much stock into conspiracies, but this case has more holes than a time travel movie