[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Hopefully a Federal Inquiry is going to be launched on the LAPD.
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haha, I’ll be the first to come back and say I was wrong, but all you thinking this will happen are smoking some strong ass weed.[/quote]
And why would they? All it does is reinforce the idea to other wackos that this is the way to get things done.
They do however, need to come down hard on the cops that were shooting up the wrong vehicles.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Hopefully a Federal Inquiry is going to be launched on the LAPD.
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haha, I’ll be the first to come back and say I was wrong, but all you thinking this will happen are smoking some strong ass weed.[/quote]
And why would they? All it does is reinforce the idea to other wackos that this is the way to get things done.[/quote]
It looks like there’s another cop leaking a manifesto. The LAPD needs to investigate their policies and culture, if nothing for themselves. The best way is an independent review of the entire department.
LAPD press conference has said that no body has been found yet or even identified. The cabin is still too hot to enter.
If he is in fact dead ill say I’m surprised how little damage he inflicted with his background.
I mean a couple of kids from Connecticut and Colorado inflicted more harm
[quote]therajraj wrote:
If he is in fact dead ill say I’m surprised how little damage he inflicted with his background.
I mean a couple of kids from Connecticut and Colorado inflicted more harm[/quote]
This was my point when I said he was a shitty Rambo.
Plan A) steal boat take all my gear to mexico and then wait till shit dies down, come back kill people, vanish again etc… FAILED
Plan B) load my truck up and head into the mountains, hide out in a remote area, wait till shit dies down (truck axle breaks?)…FAILED
Plan C) Burn truck? run into mountains and hide until things calm down, Tie hostages up and take away their communications ability. Escape, re-group and continue one of the previous plans (failed to secure the hostages properly… FAILED
Either this guy has the worst luck in the world, or he is in fact delusional. As I sit back and look at the whole story, I can’t say weather I think his partner kicked the guy or not, but it seems like LAPD wanted him out, not because he lied, but because he was a delusions screw up who thought all the little things that were going wrong which were his own fault, were actually someone else’s fault. I did hear internet rumblings about this guy being a huge liberal, so that would explain that.
V
[quote]therajraj wrote:
If he is in fact dead ill say I’m surprised how little damage he inflicted with his background.
I mean a couple of kids from Connecticut and Colorado inflicted more harm[/quote]
Upon unarmed children and teens.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
If he is in fact dead ill say I’m surprised how little damage he inflicted with his background.
I mean a couple of kids from Connecticut and Colorado inflicted more harm[/quote]
He had specific targets. And he did what he wanted to do which was make the cops scared and highlight attention on a really corrupt force.
james
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Na, fuck all that “though I don’t agree with his tactics, his ultimate goal is good” stuff.
He’s a terrorist, he needs to end.
You think a Navy Officer can’t figure out a way to appropriately address an injustice especially in todays’ society and avenues within social media? Na. This dude waited till his Navy stint was up and decided to go all rogue badass and get revenge for things that happened TO HIM. He’s not trying to fix anything or bring light to anything new. His actions this last week are in no way associated with serving a greater good (fixing the broken LAPD), they are his own way of granting himself permission to be a crazed animal. REAL classy. He’s acknowledging that he’s a beaten and broken man who’s pointing his finger back at everyone else. It’s too tough to look at and fix yourself, might as well terrorize a city.
He goes out and kills his defenders’ daughter and her fiance, then goes on a spree where he takes out a cop from another city all together? Fails at stealing a boat from an old man? Torches his truck in Big Bear?
He’s not tough enough to carry out his own manifesto. I doubt he wants to kill anyone else, much less go hunting for his “High Value Targets.” It’s his lofty perception of the people hunting him that has him in the position he’s in now. I’m sure he figured he’d be all done, going out in a hail of gunfire by now.
He’s a pussy. Yes, his actions proved he’s dangerous to the community at large, especially Police. However, right now he’s scared, in over his head, and there is nothing bright or calculating about his actions at this time. He’s in survival mode if he hasn’t already tucked in under some rocks east of Big Bear and funneled out his dome. Who knows if he’s still in Big Bear, but I guarantee you 8500ft elevation in a blizard is no place for a 270lb dude no matter the shade.
For some of you guys to line up behind a whackjob that writes a 6k word manifesto and does the dirty on some citizens is a joke, and you need to really assess what you’re supporting.
He’s a pussy. Stop celebrating him or trying to put him on a pedestal of doing anything honorable.
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From the 11th
Yep.
Those officers should be imprisoned for lighting that building on fire.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Those officers should be imprisoned for lighting that building on fire.[/quote]
First of all, they didn’t light the building on fire purposefully. It’s not even confirmed that their year gas grenades are what caused the fire. He could have started the fire and shot himself once he knew he was surrounded and that they were gassing him out.
Secondly, why wouldn’t they light it on fire? Why risk more officers lives by entering the building when he has already killed several people? The insurance company/police department will pay to build the property owners a bigger and better home anyway.
This guy waited over three years to carry out his plan, but couldn’t wait a few more months for summer? I think if he was a little more patient he would’ve been more successful. He went down much quicker than I expected. The beltway snipers win.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Those officers should be imprisoned for lighting that building on fire.[/quote]
First of all, they didn’t light the building on fire purposefully. It’s not even confirmed that their year gas grenades are what caused the fire. He could have started the fire and shot himself once he knew he was surrounded and that they were gassing him out.
Secondly, why wouldn’t they light it on fire? Why risk more officers lives by entering the building when he has already killed several people? The insurance company/police department will pay to build the property owners a bigger and better home anyway.[/quote]
Guess you only care about due process when it suits you.
Police burning someone alive is unethical gregron, I don’t care how you twist it you hypocrite.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Those officers should be imprisoned for lighting that building on fire.[/quote]
First of all, they didn’t light the building on fire purposefully. It’s not even confirmed that their year gas grenades are what caused the fire. He could have started the fire and shot himself once he knew he was surrounded and that they were gassing him out.
Secondly, why wouldn’t they light it on fire? Why risk more officers lives by entering the building when he has already killed several people? The insurance company/police department will pay to build the property owners a bigger and better home anyway.[/quote]
Guess you only care about due process when it suits you.
Police burning someone alive is unethical gregron, I don’t care how you twist it you hypocrite.
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Dorner had no interest in due process. If he did, he would have come out with his hands up or turned himself in somewhere.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
As I sit back and look at the whole story, I can’t say weather I think his partner kicked the guy or not, but it seems like LAPD wanted him out, not because he lied, but because he was a delusions screw up who thought all the little things that were going wrong which were his own fault, were actually someone else’s fault.
V
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Since most people will never admit they are wrong I should probably be glad it only took you 16 pages to come to this conclusion.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Guess you only care about due process when it suits you.
Police burning someone alive is unethical gregron, I don’t care how you twist it you hypocrite.
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What are you talking about?
Do you know what hypocrite means? What did I say tha was hypocritical? When did I say anything about due process?
[quote]on edge wrote:
You are certifiably nuts. If everything he said in that manifesto is 100 percent true the bottom line is he just lost his job. JUST LOST HIS FUCKING JOB! This is not a case where one goes out and fights for justice even at the expense of innocent lives. This is a case where one goes out, gets another job and goes on with their lives. If they want to make a hobby out of it they can try to get their story out to the public, maybe even write a book. Not fucking kill people.
I read that manifesto and I read the cops side of the story. I’m not predisposed to siding with the cops, not by a long shot. I find the cops side of the story more plausible. The guy was a bad cop and his complaint against the training officer was purely a preemptive strike because he knew she was going to write him up.
In the most favorable light for Dorner he’s killing innocent people over losing his job. Not only that, police work is a mediocre career as far as careers go and he’s a guy with a college degree. Losing that job might easily have been a favor to him if he had applied himself in a constructive manner.
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From the 9th and in way ahead of Brad.
Yep
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
This guy waited over three years to carry out his plan, but couldn’t wait a few more months for summer? I think if he was a little more patient he would’ve been more successful. He went down much quicker than I expected. The beltway snipers win. [/quote]
I might be wrong but I think he started shortly after getting discharged from the Navy. I think it was only a week or so after.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he blamed the LAPD for the Navy not wanting him anymore. The Navy probably recognized he was “wound too tight” and discharged him. He thought the Navy discharged him over the black mark on his record with the LAPD. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Navy, to smooth over the news of his termination, told him they had to discharge him due to his record. -All just speculation on my part.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
As I sit back and look at the whole story, I can’t say weather I think his partner kicked the guy or not, but it seems like LAPD wanted him out, not because he lied, but because he was a delusions screw up who thought all the little things that were going wrong which were his own fault, were actually someone else’s fault.
V
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Since most people will never admit they are wrong I should probably be glad it only took you 16 pages to come to this conclusion.[/quote]
I am wrong far more than I am right. And I was only wrong about HIM. Not the majority of the “philosophy” stuff I was trying to tie people to here.
In any event, thanks for the backhanded compliment.
V
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Those officers should be imprisoned for lighting that building on fire.[/quote]
Not even close. If someone is violently resisting arrest (as is his right to do so) they have every right to take him out in any way which puts their men and women in the least amount of harm. I mean they have the right to return fire if someone is firing at them. Burning the building down is fine, the only thing I would say is they should pay for the damage (yes we as taxpayers should carry that burden). Insurance policies generally do not cover damage as a result of Governmental action.
V