[quote]Makavali wrote:
Does it really matter?
I mean yeah, the guy used drugs, but I challenge any one of you to walk on the moon while clean.[/quote]
Hell yeah! Been thinking the same from the start of this thread LOL
seekonk
your post is 100% right on!!
thats whats TRUE sports are all about. who can walk on the moon while clean…
FACT: All the people that have posted something serious in this thread are white.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]seekonk wrote:
[quote]spk wrote:
wonder how lance feels now. knowing he lied to 1000000000 billion people…[/quote]
That really bothers me about him - maybe people don’t care if he doped but do they really condone his bald-faced lying, over and over and over? To me that doesn’t speak well for his character, and neither does the fact that he apparently pressured certain other reluctant members of his team into doping. He wanted the glory of winning regardless of what his doping program might do to the health of his teammates, and he pressured some of them to become cheaters, something I find morally indefensible.
Until these latest details came out, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. No more. I would encourage all his defenders here to actually read the reports that came out in the past few days. They are pretty damning.
Also, the argument that everybody dopes and therefore the playing field is level makes no sense to me. Does anybody really believe a team from, say, Albania, has the same access to the latest and the greatest in doping technology as the Americans? What about people who want to follow the rules of the sport - what are they, chopped liver? The only way you can be happy with what happened is if you believe athletics should be a technology arms race with the richest countries guaranteed to win. But that’s not what I call sports.[/quote]
I know nothing about cycling, but do all competitors really have access to the same quality bikes and other equipment?[/quote]
@seekonk
1.) You really blame him from denying that he doped? Denying that you cheated comes with the territory, no?
2.) You gave him the benefit of the doubt until now? I would say anyone knowing something about cycling, didn’t need the latest report to know that. At least the rational ones.
3.) While I understand your point about level playing field and all, using a team from Albania as an example is very misleading.
@Chushin
Without going into the details, I would say yes they have more or less access to the same quality of materials on the pro level. Any quality difference will not make or break a rider. Talent (physical and mental), training, and doping are the key factors. It is not comparable to car racing like the Formula 1, where a better car component can make such a big difference.
Now for a slightly different twist on the Armstrong case:
Shouldn’t one give this man credit for being such a BADASS doper?
You can picture him sitting in his hospital bed, facing death and promising god that when he would let him live that he would show those puny European fuckers how to do it right with doping.
God then thought, “well I don’t like cheating but that guy has balls”, and let him live a bit longer.
but then god said, you know, i hate cheaters, so lets bust him in a few years…
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
God then thought, “well I don’t like cheating but that guy has balls”, and let him live a bit longer.[/quote]
HAD
at the :32 second mark of the above video, he says he’s also on the best nondetectable enhancing drugs money can buy…
YOU GOT CAUGHT LANCE…
For fuck sakes people. Everybody are on… everybody, the real losers are you whining b*****s. He busted his ass for that although being “on”.
I know a couple of people who’ve met Armstrong personally and he’s apparently as big a dickhead as you’d ever meet. Guess all that negative energy finally caught up with him.