Israel does, provided you’ve been in the millitary. SOME American states do and I believe perhaps one or two European countries do. Yemen does… That’s about it.
If someone throws a punch at you, and you respond by shooting them in the face… 99% of countries would charge you with murder for that.
Do I agree with this? Not necessarily, I think knowing someone might be armed serves as a good deterrent. If Australia had conceal carry I reckon we wouldn’t have such an issue with young delinquents carrying out what is termed a “king punch” over here, and it’s more common than you might think
A king punch is when you walk behind someone and smack them in the back/side of the head as hard as humanely possible. People die from this, and the perpetrators are charged with homicide… If they can be caught…
I don’t like the idea of say… Someone gives you a shove and instead of walking away, you shoot them. That’s ridiculous from my perspective.
If someone is charging at you however in the context of a robbery then yes… Being armed is effective.
That is unless adrenaline kicks in, you miss, the guy takes the gun off of you and turns the tables. It’s unlikely, but it’s possible. I generally don’t like the idea of untrained persons conceal carrying firearms
I like how Israel does it… If you’ve served in the millitary and don’t have any mental health issues, you can carry. Chances are you know how to use a gun properly and won’t buckle under pressure if you’re IDF.
Probably not the best tool. I’d imagine using a knife you’re looking for maximum amount of blood loss in a hurry, minus hitting any of the almost instant droppers. This doesn’t look like it would stop something quick
It’s a lawless, albeit ironically authoritarian country controlled by various militias. No government = the most powerful group is in control = survival of the fittest, they can do whatever they want
But rurally in Yemen, I’m assuming it’s a bit of a free for all. I could be wrong though.
Right, but very small entry hole. It’s the same concept of why jacketed hollow points are better than FMJ. More damage = more blood loss. That’s obviously grossly simplified.
I am just thinking that if I got punctured with an awl, that would be enough for me to give up and try to run away. Maybe won’t work on people on certain drugs though.
I also heard that the effectiveness of different caliber rounds in self defense is almost the same. Like yeah, the 45 is gonna drop someone better than a 22, but most people are done with fighting after they get hit once. Meth heads are the exception to this rule.
I wouldn’t hang my hat on a big needle if my life is on the line.
Another point to consider is that using an awl to defend yourself is the same category of force as a gun. Both are lethal force in the USA. Both require the same level of threat to justifiably use in self-defense.
In other words, if you’re prepared to stab someone to defend yourself, shooting them is almost always a better option.
This is not true at all. .380 and .22, two very common calibers, do not meet FBI penetration standards. .25 ACP, .32 and many other rounds are very under powered.
.38 special and 9mm in JHP are generally where defensive calibers begin.
IMHO the biggest mistake you can make is to assume. If we could predict outcomes we would just avoid the situation all together.
I’m not saying you should walk around in code red all the time strapped with everything known to man. But you should make conscious decisions on what types of weapons you carry, learn not only the laws but how to properly and safely deploy those methods, and understand the limitations of said weapons. Carry as much as you comfortably can. If I can carry that awl I can carry a nice knife. If I’m going to carry a weapon I’m damn sure going to be proficient with it though.
I used to shoot pistols competitively at a pretty damn high level. Prior to that I spent a lot of time in the self defense world taking plenty of classes by dudes respected all over the globe who have trained real life bad asses no one ever hears about.
I quit carrying a gun a couple years ago as I was tired of the upkeep and practice it took to keep me to the point I felt proficient to carry it. So, now I’m just ready to die like most Americans lol
I agree. I am not carrying an awl or a gun currently. I do have two guns. I am not against it. My area is pretty safe, and I am big enough most don’t mess with me. I don’t say that to be cocky, I just thought it was normal. I was surprised how much harassment one of my smaller male friends receives if he goes certain areas.
That may be true, but don’t most people give up after being shot with almost anything? I agree, bigger caliber is better, but still don’t like 80%+ people give up after being shot with a 22?
What I try to do.
In HS there was a girl that liked me (I was oblivious to it). Her dad was really into competition pistol shooting and was a conceal carry instructor. He had a whole trophy case of what looked like trophies of a guy doing a Nazi salute (was a guy with a pistol haha). I was unaware of this girl liking me, and was still very afraid of her dad.
No. A single .22 is not likely to end a violent assault. There is a reason no LEOs use this chambering for duty guns.
The best source of data on this would be police shootings, as they are the best documented. Here are some quick numbers. One shot is enough, except when it isn’t.
Generally speaking, you shoot until the threat is gone. The other person decided to assault you, you have no obligation to assess after each shot.
Shoot until there’s no threat.
Even a shot to the heart can leave a person with enough blood for another 9 seconds or so to continue assaulting you.
There are no guarantees. Well, except shots to the cns.
I’d run for the hills if anyone pulled any kind of sharp object on me.
In fallout 3 the .32 calibre revolver is one of the weakest weapons… Haven’t played it in two years but… I remember that #realism
A .22 calibre assault rifle with a high capacity magazine would probably work for self defence no? It’s not potent enough to blow a hole the size of a grapefruit into someone, but if you can quickly pop off five or six shots that should be good enough to stop most people no?
Though I hear crack, alcohol, PCP and methamphetamine are pretty great when it comes to boost ones ability withstand damage… What about a crack + PCP + meth + alcohol combo? Could probably get kicked by a horse and you still wouldn’t feel it… If you don’t die from an adrenergic storm. Remember Monty python and the holy grail? I think the black knight was tweaking…
I’m not a gun expert, far from it; however from watching people shoot some of these lower calibre long arms they look like they could still take a person out fairly easily provided you are at an intermediate/long distance when you start shooting.
I saw riots everywhere in Europe due to covid restrictions. And I don’t agree with rioting. If you want to fight the government, then fight the government. Don’t torch and ruin regular people’s livelihoods because you are pissed off at the government. I thought I saw some unrest in Australia too. That the covid restrictions got even more restrictive in the Northern territory or something. I thought I heard of some riots there too. It’s understandable when the government tries to imprison you without due process, it’s just wrong. Demonstrations are fine so long as they are peaceful, meaning nobody is breaking things and hurting people.
There was some unrest in the U.S. Portland (naturally) had riots. San Francisco had a flash mob of looting. There were demonstrations but nothing near the magnitude of last summer, though some tried to start it, it didn’t catch on. Lot’s of people said that riots are a fair-weather affair. Either that, or people are really sick of riots.
How about the metric is facts and evidence? That’s what it is supposed to be. What you think of the people involved isn’t relevant. We may get there, but haven’t yet, where we arrest people because we don’t like them or their life-styles.
Sounds like if you were a judge or jury your would rule on how your vagina feels at the time.
No. …22cal ANYTHING is a horrible horrible idea for anything self defense. From every possible angle of looking at it lol. There’s no such thing as a reliable 22 semi auto, there’s no such thing as consistent .22 ammo. It also lacks in size and penetration.
Those are facts. The ammo does seem like about 1/50-1/100 are duds IME. A revolver solves the gun reliability issue though.
I have a 9 shot revolver that shoots 22 and 22 magnum rounds, and a 410 single shot shotgun that was given to me (I’ve never shot it, and it is old af). I figure the revolver with 22 magnums in it is a lot better than nothing for home defense (I got a higher grain hollow point round for that purpose). I don’t really plan on buying anything else (well maybe a glock, for some reason I am a really good shot with a glock).
I am not recommending that a 22 be purchased for the purpose of home or self defense, but if that’s what you got, it is a lot better than nothing.
The thing about knife fights is that unless you slit a throat, stab deep enough to hit the heart, or stab through the eye and into the brain, most wounds are not able to immediately incapacitate an enemy. You need to be ready for follow-up and continuing the fight. Of course, an awl is enough to let someone know that the fight has escalated and that will deter many people. But if you are fighting someone who is committed to the fight, I think you will find an awl to have many drawbacks. The grip is difficult to use, you are limited in the angles of attack, it’s even less likely than a knife to deal wounds that incapacitate, and the blood loss will be minimal. I think you may also find that if you do cause a deep puncture, you may not be able to pull it back out.
Its culture. Europeans saw from Americans you can riot, thus they follow the trend. It would be much easier to take over a government to be honest than riot.
