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Okay, I have read the sticky’s and I guess I am still not getting the answers that I am looking for. I am 29 and I have been hitting the gym since I was about 20 years old. I am in good shape and I diet properly. I do not have any real issues in the gym but I am not really getting tot he point I want, I see to have just hit a wall.

A buddy I work with was doing a cycle with test/deca and I wanted some advice. Yes I know that most people say just do test for their first time but he is the only person I know to get it from and he doesn’t know how much longer his “Supplier” will have deca so my first cycle I am going to do test/deca.

I see a lot of you guys saying you are going to do how many every mg’s per week but I am trying to figure out how to convert that. Yes I have tried to look online, anyone got a friendly way to do it? I weight 175 and I am wanting to put on quite a bit of mass and my buddy can get me test and deca in 10ML bottles.

I have seen 100 different threads but I am wondering for this first cycle how many bottles of each do I need. He swears that one 10ml bottle of each will be good for a 12 week cycle. Is this true for my first cycle? What I read a lot of you vets say this is not enough. How much would you reccomed I get for my first cycle and how much each day for a 12 week cycle? Where do you get the syringes for this that have measurements in mg’s?

He does all his by “cc’s?” I do trust my friend but want to get advice from you guys as well and see where you guys think I should start.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Thanks a lot guys!

Zach

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You need to figure out the concentration of the drugs you’ll be taking. This is measured in mg/ml (1ml = 1cc). Once you have that you can figure out how many ml (or cc) you need to take by dividing the number of mg you plan on taking on a given time frame by the concentration.

Example: your Testosterone Ester’s concentration is 200mg/ml. Yo want to take 600mg every week. 600/200 = 3ml. This is your weekly total. Depending on the ester, your pinning schedule will vary. A long ester such as enanthate would be pinned twice per week so you divide your weekly total (3ml) by the number of weekly pins (2 for enanthate) and you get the number of ml per pin (in this case 1.5ml or cc’s). Figuring out how many 10ml bottles you need for your cycle should be pretty straight forward (I hope).

Make sure you understand this and please don’t do anything too stupid.

PS: you didn’t mention anything about PCT, AI use or other ancillaries but you said you read the stickies so I’ll assume you know about this and simply didn’t write it down or if you’re not using any, it’s because you made the choice not to do so and not because of ignorance.

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If you can’t figure out how to do ml, Mg concentration calculations you need to go back to the Fucking 3rd grade holy shit

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Troll ? I hope? =\

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Hey, what eaboadar said was correct. I’ll try to give you a dumbed down version and some backward math as drug concentrations can be confusing at first glance.

1mL = 1cc They are interchangeable terms.

I am taking 500mg test per week. I take it twice a week, split evenly, in two injections. A lot of people call injecting “pins” or “pinning.”

My bottle is 10mL (Of volume.)

The drug inside is 250mg per mL. (this is the concentration - sometimes shown as 250/1)

Thus 10mL x 250mg = 2500mg of total drug per bottle.

2500mg / 10mL = 250mg per mL

So if you want to inject 1000mg’s you would have to draw up 4mL’s (dont inject 1000mg - this is just an example)

4mL x 250mg = 1000mg

Now If you are injecting 1000mg’s at two separate times (for example once on wednesday and once on sunday)
You would take 500mg on wednesday, and 500mg on sunday.

1000mg = 4mL
4mL / 2 (wednesday and sunday) = 2mL per injection

So wednesday you would take 2mL, and Sunday you would take 2mL

So, once you figure out how much you want to do per week, find out your concentration, and you can start doing calculations. 500mgs/wk of test is a good start.
I’m not familiar with deca so you will have to get some info from others on that.

As for needles, I would recommend 3mL volume 25 gauge(thickness) that are 1" to 1 1/2" long. Make sure you know how to inject before you do so!

Please make sure you research PCT (Post cycle therapy). You will need it. No matter what your buddies tell you.

If you have any other questions let us know. Please be informed before you start using steroids.