[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
Can anyone explain why an “automatic” knife is outlawed when a folding blade is not? Are solid tang knives legal?[/quote]
From what I have read, the “reason” is the image of those knives. They are associated with a “bad element”. Think Marlon Brando in the Wild Bunch. Seems silly but that was probably the thinking.
And yes and no to your second question. Those knives aren’t illegal by themselves. BUT, depending on the situation, carrying on could be. If you are walking around a shopping mall with a hunting knife hanging off your belt, I am betting trouble. Same knife hanging off your belt, while you are at a gas station wearing an orange vest and a truck packed with hunting gear, probably not. First instance would hard to explain it as anything but a weapon, but the second has a reasonable use besides self-defense.
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
honest question, not being a troll-
how does one determine if it is centrifugal force? i have a knife that is meant to be opened with your thumb but the pin is loose so you can sling it open if you whip it hard enough. it doesnt do it everytime, but it is capable of doing it.
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The following type of knife does not generally meet the definition of prohibited weapon, and therefore it is not within the purview of TI 9898.00.00. The misuse of this knife may nonetheless be punishable under other laws.
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You are quoting the section to do with assisted opening knives, ex Kershaw’s speedsafe, that isn’t what he is asking. He is asking about a knife that he can flick open and that falls under folding knife in 22b.
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I was quoting the section of laws describing “gravity” knives. The type of knife he was describing would not be a centrifugal force knife.
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
honest question, not being a troll-
how does one determine if it is centrifugal force? i have a knife that is meant to be opened with your thumb but the pin is loose so you can sling it open if you whip it hard enough. it doesnt do it everytime, but it is capable of doing it.
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The following type of knife does not generally meet the definition of prohibited weapon, and therefore it is not within the purview of TI 9898.00.00. The misuse of this knife may nonetheless be punishable under other laws.
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You are quoting the section to do with assisted opening knives, ex Kershaw’s speedsafe, that isn’t what he is asking. He is asking about a knife that he can flick open and that falls under folding knife in 22b.
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I was quoting the section of laws describing “gravity” knives. The type of knife he was describing would not be a centrifugal force knife.[/quote]
I see what you mean. But the part you quoted, refers to the following section, ie Section 23 Torsion, not the preceding one which is gravity knives. The way you quoted, it makes it sound like gravity knives are legal.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
So switchblades are illegal based on cosmetics and nothing to do with function?[/quote]
I was probably being somewhat glib before, but I do think that function also matters. Switchblades can be concealed and deployed quickly so that argument could be made for their illegality on top of their perceived association with criminal activity.
In the end, most of it is as arbitrary as rules that have a 3.5inch blade size limit.
It is legal to own a disguised knife, such as in a lipstick or belt buckle
It is legal to conceal carry dirk
It is legal to conceal carry a switchblade knife
It is legal to conceal carry a Balisong, or butterfly knife
It is legal to conceal carry a Bowie knife
It is legal to conceal carry a stiletto
16-23-460. Carrying concealed weapons; forfeiture of weapons.
(A) A person carrying a deadly weapon usually used for the infliction of personal injury concealed about his person is guilty of a misdemeanor, must forfeit to the county, or, if convicted in a municipal court, to the municipality, the concealed weapon, and must be fined not less than two hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not less than thirty days nor more than ninety daysâ?¦…
â?¦…(C) The provisions of this section also do not apply to rifles, shotguns, dirks, slingshots, metal knuckles, knives, or razors unless they are used with the intent to commit a crime or in furtherance of a crime.
Some municipalities may have certain restrictions. In Greenville county any non-fixed blade may not exceed 4".
They are working on a Knife Law Preemption bill, S.885, for the 2014 session. S.885 simply adds â??knivesâ?? to the stateâ??s existing Firearms Preemption Law.
It would make state knife law supreme over the entire state, repealing existing local knife regulations and prohibiting any future knife regulations.
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
honest question, not being a troll-
how does one determine if it is centrifugal force? i have a knife that is meant to be opened with your thumb but the pin is loose so you can sling it open if you whip it hard enough. it doesnt do it everytime, but it is capable of doing it.
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The following type of knife does not generally meet the definition of prohibited weapon, and therefore it is not within the purview of TI 9898.00.00. The misuse of this knife may nonetheless be punishable under other laws.
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You are quoting the section to do with assisted opening knives, ex Kershaw’s speedsafe, that isn’t what he is asking. He is asking about a knife that he can flick open and that falls under folding knife in 22b.
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I was quoting the section of laws describing “gravity” knives. The type of knife he was describing would not be a centrifugal force knife.[/quote]
I see what you mean. But the part you quoted, refers to the following section, ie Section 23 Torsion, not the preceding one which is gravity knives. The way you quoted, it makes it sound like gravity knives are legal.
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That’s my fault then, thats not what I was trying to do.
My suggestions for problem free knife carry in Canada (I am not a lawyer). Comply with the specifics under the Criminal Code as quoted above. However, every folding knife I have ever seen can be opened with “centrifugal force”, so that always struck me as a bit fuzzy. Some just need to be flicked harder and faster than others. Have a reason besides self-defence for carrying. Also, I would suggest steering clear of the kill-y tacticool stuff in favour of more innocuous outdoorsy/rescue/work models. Cosmetics may effect how your intent in carrying may be perceived. Don’t be an idiot while carrying. Don’t carry in a bar, where I live this is actually arrestable.
Just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s a good idea (I’m refering to questions about fixed blades/hunting knives here). In Canada it’s legal to open carry a non-restricted firearm if you have a PAL. However if you sling your 12 gauge and go for a walk to the local mall/school you can expect to see your local tactical team in action up close. Out in the back 40, not so much. Common sense is your friend.