Whatever, pushy.
I’m going to bed. You go ahead and denude all you want. Pick away, pushy.
If new species do not evolve, where were all the octopuses 3.5 billion years ago(the age of the oldest fossilized evidence for life)?
While you posted a snarky picture, you still have not addressed a single question in my post…
The bible absolutely does say that the earth is flat. There are numerous references to the “disk of the earth” “corners” “edges”. Now before you complain about how we still use those expressions today in a metaphorical sense, let me remind you that most people at the time were not aware of the spherical nature of the earth and thus it would make no sense for them to employ such phrases only as metaphor.
You can say “well still the bible reflects the imperfect scientific knowledge of its human authors!” To which I would ask why you accept that in many respects(notably the earth’s position in the solar system/universe) the bible is merely a bronze age collection of religious myths and why in others you accept it as the inerrant word of God(evolution).
Finally, since no one has answered this yet, untestability aside what does the God hypothesis explain, and why should we not wonder about the origins of God?. Extra credit if you can explain how you know your God is anywhere remotely close to the “real” thing.
For quick reference^
EDIT: bolded the parts with the questions since people on this forum seem to unsurprisingly lack basic reading comprehension
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Makavali wrote:
A soporific sonnet of superb soliloquy.
How come you didn’t double or triple post that, angel? Another notch or two in your TN gun stock couldn’t hurt…
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Same shit I see. You can’t refute it so you… reinforce it?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
There are more people reading this than those who are posting. They are the ones that MAY be the reason we aren’t wasting our time.
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^^^This
[quote]pushharder wrote:
malonetd wrote:
pushharder wrote:
There are more people reading this than those who are posting. They are the ones that MAY be the reason we aren’t wasting our time.
^^^This
Although, I must admit I stopped reading pages ago. These things degenerate quickly.
Man, I can’t help it. Sometimes these here topics need a dose of mirth. I just can’t take a nonstop serious knife fight on the interwebz.[/quote]
There’s a handful of people on this thread, and other related ones, that I really enjoy reading. It’s too bad some idiots can destroy what can be a good “debate”.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
By the way, Mak, “Yeah sure, whatever. Are you seriously that mentally retarded?” is simply a dreadfully sophomoric attempt at an insult. Sharpen your knife and come at me again, dearie.[/quote]
Followed by
[quote]Nope! I can refute it no longer. I emptied my gun and missed every shot and now I lie dying in the streets, my blood oozing into the west Texas dust with the midday sun relentlessly emptying its timeless wrath on the wretched inhabitants of this two bit town.
Tell my momma I love her. Bury me deep, please. Don’t need no coyotes feedin’ on me flesh. Lord, have mercy on me soul.[/quote]
and
and you’re calling ME sophomoric. I double post because for some reason my ISP doesn’t like T-Nation. Try again.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
There’s a handful of people on this thread, and other related ones, that I really enjoy reading. It’s too bad some idiots can destroy what can be a good “debate”.[/quote]
There hasn’t really been any “debate”, good or otherwise.
Just pushy trying to browbeat anyone who doesn’t subscribe to his fairy tail belief system by acting like a spoiled 14 y/o.
You all sound so depressed
[quote]tme wrote:
malonetd wrote:
There’s a handful of people on this thread, and other related ones, that I really enjoy reading. It’s too bad some idiots can destroy what can be a good “debate”.
There hasn’t really been any “debate”, good or otherwise.
Just pushy trying to browbeat anyone who doesn’t subscribe to his fairy tail belief system by acting like a spoiled 14 y/o.
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Actually, there was some good debate going on earlier in the thread when tom was involved. At this point it’s mostly degraded to the same old name calling and finger pointing though.
But it seems like that’s just what’s going to happen if these types of debates go on long enough. Neither is really going to convince the other side that they are right, and eventually one side (could be either side) just gives up trying and reverts to condescending remarks, character attacks, and 2nd grade school yard antics. Then the other side follows suit and the whole thread descends into chaos.
On the original topic of the thread, I personally think that Cameron is not representative of most Christians, and definitely not most people who believe in a higher power/God. He is as extreme and overzealous as people like Dawkins on the other side, who are also not representative of most people who believe in evolution. Nor would I say that his finger pointing, hollier than though attitude, nor downright fraudulent claims (like being able to prove God’s existence) are very representative of Jesus’s teachings either.
[quote]tme wrote:
malonetd wrote:
There’s a handful of people on this thread, and other related ones, that I really enjoy reading. It’s too bad some idiots can destroy what can be a good “debate”.
There hasn’t really been any “debate”, good or otherwise.
Just pushy trying to browbeat anyone who doesn’t subscribe to his fairy tail belief system by acting like a spoiled 14 y/o.
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If you really didn’t see any good posts in this thread, and the best you can come up with is accusations of fairy tales, then you’re probably one of the idiots I was talking about.
WHO WOULDVE THUNK THE BRAIN TRUST AT T-NATION INCAPABLE OF SUSTAINING ANY SORT OF DEBATE THAT IS NOT ABOUT GETTING BIGGER
[quote]pushharder wrote:
fleeben wrote:
…where were all the octopuses 3.5 billion years ago…?..
The U.S. federal government had not evolved at that point in history.[/quote]
GENERIC TEMPLATE JOKE APPLIED IN WRONG SITUATION IS UNFUNNY AND REVEALING