CT, Y U no tell us!?
you are our buff messias
Hahah nice you know anthony, pretty big fan of him, he just seems so…unmotivated sometimes.
Like ‘Im gonna train every day, but Im not going too push myself at all, and screw excercise selection, im doing some stuff on the fly’.
I just feel like smacking him: a keen mind and strong athlete like him can progress twice as much in a year if he tried and stopped messong around and made a solid programm!
just my opinion, maybe its just a wrong interpretation from my side
The vids doesn’t work 
if you like see guys combining bw training and barbell, look up little beast training at youtube, he is pretty build too.
I looked up some write-ups about the layer system, but some doubts rose:
It seems like high skill/balance movement arent perfectly suited for high reps.
Pull-ups on everything, dips on bar, HSPU against the wall are decent choices,
but stuff with less stability/higher skill can be problematic i guess. Same problem as high rep oly lifitng in WODs.
If you can train everyday, why don’t do it? Far more moments to gain proficiency and more growth cycles. Ramp up and then do a double progression progression, and do it for 1 movement 3 times a week.
I don’t know yet, but we find this out!
Well my idea was never doing ring everytime, it s only an idea to bring alternative to the zone 3 complex with all the possible bodyweight exercises, following the first 2 zones
When muscle growth is emphasized heavily over skill and sttength: why not. If it works and you enjoy it, why stop doing it?
Getting hyyuuge isn’t really a priority of mine. I wanna be strong as a bull, move awesome and have a physique at T-Nation is called ‘slender’ i guess lol. Wanna keep my BW at 230-250 so my cardio for MA doesn’t suffer too much.
Coleman might be the scariest man to get in a fight with, yet he won’t be an efficient fighter; it just isn’t a goal of him.
[quote]Panopticum wrote:
Getting hyyuuge isn’t really a priority of mine. I wanna be strong as a bull, move awesome and have a physique at T-Nation is called ‘slender’ i guess lol. Wanna keep my BW at 230-250 so my cardio for MA doesn’t suffer too much.
Coleman might be the scariest man to get in a fight with, yet he won’t be an efficient fighter; it just isn’t a goal of him.[/quote]
Have you seen Alpha’s logs?
[quote]Panopticum wrote:
LoRez, haven’t you missed some variation fot fun/development?
As I understand you just deadlift lift of blocks, press, dip, pull up and do some assecory stuff for your forearms, doenst seem really all-round. Don’t you miss some deeper squats for example, for full rom quad work and movement pattern training? Or do you purely train for aesthetics, and do you feel the deads are enough for legs?(nothing wrong with that!)[/quote]
I do have fun, mostly outside the gym.
Having fun in the gym doesn’t always move me closer to my goals, and I’d rather find something that actually works, in the gym, and then plug in the fun stuff after I do the work.
I’m working toward some strength goals right now, to get stronger with axle clean and press, and in the 18" strongman deadlift. I saw videos of a strongman competition, decided I wanted to do both of those.
I also realized that in order to achieve certain goals, you end up “accidentally” accomplishing some other things. You cannot become strong at the clean and press for reps without actually having strong arms, strong shoulders, strong upper back, and a strong core (and strong hips and strong legs, and strong everything else). You also have to put on a lot of muscle in all of those places.
So I picked some goals that, by doing what it takes to reach them, will also help give me the physique I want, and put muscle in the place I want. Form follows function, and all that.
And then, given those goals, I need to 1) get better at the movements themselves [skill work], 2) get stronger to be able to do them in the first place [strength work], and 3) build more muscle mass in the right places [via frequency and weekly volume]. How I approach those now will change over time, but they all need to happen to get me where I want to be.
I originally started down a more pure “aesthetics” path, but I eventually realized I wanted to be as strong as I looked, and that pretty much means, actually get strong.
As far as the squats vs deads and leg training thing, I just haven’t had a place to squat because my rack has been in storage. It’s really nothing more than that. However, the mat pulls have made my legs stronger and bigger, for whatever that’s worth.
I haven’t seen alphas logs yet, Im curious what you found the Getting strong at big movements tends to make people look better in my book, especially getting strong at something that strengthens every muscle from head to too. Clean and press is awesome therefore. Atlas stones always intruged me for that reason (and is can’t ithinkof something more ‘real life strength’).
Fun is a relative term, but you probably should have some of it in the gym: you like being able to do stuff and you work towards it: gaining the capabality is pretty fun. Its fun to get your DL up, to nail a handstand. Bi curls give guns but doesn’t make me crave training.
Your legs are getting stronger and you can’t squat i get it. Dont you notice something like less leg strength when doing sports/all daymovements?
Great goals btw! Form follows function, nice conclusion.
No loss of leg strength. As I said, they’re getting stronger, and the mat pulls do actually hit the quads too. It’s just to a lesser extent than if I were squatting.
I do enjoy getting better, and with the slow progressions, I’m setting small PRs almost every single session. However, it’s a very different feeling than hitting a really big PR after several weeks of work. I actually think I prefer the feeling of being strong “all the time”, even if it’s a bit less exciting.
Dan-John-allert!
I get what you mean with little stronger every time, like mini pr’s. They seems to keep you ‘real life strong’ (the most important kind of strong to me, at my place being able to beat the crap out of manual labor is a great indicator of how much of a man you are lol). You don’t seem to be beaten to death the week after the pr, and weak during the program cuz recovery capacity is smashed.
Just strong all the time, al little stronger all the time (double progression FTW!).
Better for long term and all-the-time progress.
Besides, it is psychologically a different experience: little succeses leading to the next, snowballing a way to power.
Fanboy-alert!
Now im thinking about it, its a disscussion a friend of mine and me had a time ago:
we both were keen at playing the pokemon videogames when we were younger. But with opposing theories:
- he got into the big battles at the gyms as soon as possible with just enough training, had a very varied team and trained them up equall. He finetuned his moves for neat set ups. He bought potions and shit to keep going and have the edge at these risky battles that cost alot when lost.
- I took the two most plain vanilla pokemon you get at the beginning. The ones able of long term development.
Just grind their levels up till massive advantage gained and overpowering disadvantages and neat set ups.
And when they were both leagues ahead of the whole team of the gym leader, only then take the risk.
He was doing all stuff like drop sets, assesory work and VMO massaging to gain a ‘perfect’ edge and jump in the deep end right away.
I was doing deads and presses with double progression forever, steadily becoming strong enough to overcome every deficit
Both pass the test in the end, but when shit hit the fan before the true testing moment, his nifty plan meant naught.
But steadily getting a beast at the basics just seemed a hell lot more fool (AKA reality) proof.
what do you guys think? Your feedback is really insightfull!
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