Killing Nature

Put it this way, If aliens came down to our planet and got in a war with us, with slightly more advanced but not invincible technology, and they were after our planet for our resources, then I have no moral opposition to what they are doing. I’m going to have a survival opposition and try like hell to kill them instead, but at least I’ll die in some sort of a battle.

Now if the equivalent of some alien jackoff teenagers who have a planet killing beam just pop in and vaporize the whole planet just cause they think it’s fun. Well fuck I have a moral problem with that, along with a being dead problem.

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[quote]HG Thrower wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I would enjoy shootin’ rabbits that are a pain in the ass over turtles. I can’t shoot for shit but my wife is a crack shot…this is why I don’t own guns lol.

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This, in .454 Casull. No more bear problem.[/quote]

Now that’a a pistol! This picture will be my new screensaver! Thank you sir.

I could be wrong but here in Canada if you own that beast you have to phone the police and inform them that you are planning to use it on a particuler day, what time and where you plan on shooting it and for how long…fuckin’ hell our gun laws are restrictive, especially handguns. A shotgun here has to have a plug in it so you can only have three shells in it at one time lol.

[quote]Vegita wrote:
FWIW,

I don’t mind people sport shooting vermin. Woodchucks, destructive rabbits, Squireels and chipmunks who get in your attic and fuck shit up, etc… Shooting a trutle with a gun is a little disturbing though. Bow and arrow, MAYBE, throwing knife, sure knock yourself out. Actually, just kidding with that last part, go kill something that can run or fly away.

The above statement is for those reading this troll job and agreeing with it.

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It would behoove those reading this thread to notice that the turtles were in a creek/river about 6ft deep. They’re damn good swimmers considering their slow speed on land. They hang out on the bottom, burrowing themselves in the mud, and come up for air every 10-15 (whatever) minutes. Also, they’re quick in the water.

Do I really have to resort to “turtles had just as much time to evolve and develop high-powered rifles as we did”? You guys are cracking me up, you champions of the reptilian moving van.

Here’s a thought: How many of you anti-turtle popping dudes are pro-abortion? Shall we stir the pot?

Personally I think this is wrong.

I don’t think people should harm animals unless the animals attack them or if it’s for food or skins. And even then the animal should be treated humanely. Culling because of overpopulation is also understandable.

But just to destroy life because it’s fun to you… That seems kind of heinous.

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:
FWIW,

I don’t mind people sport shooting vermin. Woodchucks, destructive rabbits, Squireels and chipmunks who get in your attic and fuck shit up, etc… Shooting a trutle with a gun is a little disturbing though. Bow and arrow, MAYBE, throwing knife, sure knock yourself out. Actually, just kidding with that last part, go kill something that can run or fly away.

The above statement is for those reading this troll job and agreeing with it.

V[/quote]

It would behoove those reading this thread to notice that the turtles were in a creek/river about 6ft deep. They’re damn good swimmers considering their slow speed on land. They hang out on the bottom, burrowing themselves in the mud, and come up for air every 10-15 (whatever) minutes. Also, they’re quick in the water.

Do I really have to resort to “turtles had just as much time to evolve and develop high-powered rifles as we did”? You guys are cracking me up, you champions of the reptilian moving van.

Here’s a thought: How many of you anti-turtle popping dudes are pro-abortion? Shall we stir the pot?
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I’m actually Pro Life myself.

V

[quote]HG Thrower wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I would enjoy shootin’ rabbits that are a pain in the ass over turtles. I can’t shoot for shit but my wife is a crack shot…this is why I don’t own guns lol.

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This, in .454 Casull. No more bear problem.[/quote]

That gun’s for fags. This is what I got! The baddest-ass handgun on the planet. The Smith and Wesson .500 Magnum with an 8 3/8" barrel! 350 grain bullets at 2000ft per sec. Ported barrel, less kick than a .44 Magnum (which may as well be a cap gun compared to this beast). It’s like hunting with the Death Star!

This thing’ll drop a fucking blue whale with one shot at 200 yards! It’ll turn a bear into a fucking turkey pot pie! It’ll stop a charging elephant on a dime! Nothing stands a chance against this thing. It’ll suck your dick!

[quote]Mr. Frost wrote:
Personally I think this is wrong.

I don’t think people should harm animals unless the animals attack them or if it’s for food or skins. And even then the animal should be treated humanely. Culling because of overpopulation is also understandable.

But just to destroy life because it’s fun to you… That seems kind of heinous.[/quote]

Don’t knock it 'til you try it.

[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:
FWIW,

I don’t mind people sport shooting vermin. Woodchucks, destructive rabbits, Squireels and chipmunks who get in your attic and fuck shit up, etc… Shooting a trutle with a gun is a little disturbing though. Bow and arrow, MAYBE, throwing knife, sure knock yourself out. Actually, just kidding with that last part, go kill something that can run or fly away.

The above statement is for those reading this troll job and agreeing with it.

V[/quote]

It would behoove those reading this thread to notice that the turtles were in a creek/river about 6ft deep. They’re damn good swimmers considering their slow speed on land. They hang out on the bottom, burrowing themselves in the mud, and come up for air every 10-15 (whatever) minutes. Also, they’re quick in the water.

Do I really have to resort to “turtles had just as much time to evolve and develop high-powered rifles as we did”? You guys are cracking me up, you champions of the reptilian moving van.

Here’s a thought: How many of you anti-turtle popping dudes are pro-abortion? Shall we stir the pot?
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I’m actually Pro Life myself.

V[/quote]

For that, sir, you have my respect. We are like-minded on that issue.

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:
Here’s a thought: How many of you anti-turtle popping dudes are pro-abortion? Shall we stir the pot?
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I’ll go easy on you because you don’t seem very sharp.

The point is that killing just because you have nothing better to do (while drinking apparently) is wrong on many levels. It’s also disgusting that you enjoyed killing animals that can’t defend themselves. In fact, it’s quite cowardly.

I’ll assume (and hope) that you are fairly young and will at some point grow up and mature.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
This thing’ll drop a fucking blue whale with one shot at 200 yards! It’ll turn a bear into a fucking turkey pot pie! It’ll stop a charging elephant on a dime! Nothing stands a chance against this thing. It’ll suck your dick![/quote]

LOL!

Very good…

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:
FWIW,

I don’t mind people sport shooting vermin. Woodchucks, destructive rabbits, Squireels and chipmunks who get in your attic and fuck shit up, etc… Shooting a trutle with a gun is a little disturbing though. Bow and arrow, MAYBE, throwing knife, sure knock yourself out. Actually, just kidding with that last part, go kill something that can run or fly away.

The above statement is for those reading this troll job and agreeing with it.

V[/quote]

It would behoove those reading this thread to notice that the turtles were in a creek/river about 6ft deep. They’re damn good swimmers considering their slow speed on land. They hang out on the bottom, burrowing themselves in the mud, and come up for air every 10-15 (whatever) minutes. Also, they’re quick in the water.

Do I really have to resort to “turtles had just as much time to evolve and develop high-powered rifles as we did”? You guys are cracking me up, you champions of the reptilian moving van.

Here’s a thought: How many of you anti-turtle popping dudes are pro-abortion? Shall we stir the pot?
[/quote]

I’m actually Pro Life myself.

V[/quote]

For that, sir, you have my respect. We are like-minded on that issue.
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Not to go all hippy on everyone, but I think pretty much all life has some intrinsic value. I mean it’s not like it’s dirt or rock. I mean hell, most humans value a rock like Diamond, or a metal like gold more than they value most life outside of thier immediate family and friends. To this point we don’t even know if life exists outside our planet. I think it probably does, but what if it doesn’t, the sheer rarity of any life to me means I had better have a damn good reason to dispose of it. “Fun” just doesn’t pass the muster. Protecting my crops, feeding my family, providing clothing for the winter, all those things are using death to create.

And yes, those dead turtles will probably feed some bugs or worms or something which will in turn feed something else etc… It’s not like they were vaporized into thin air, but still. You’re not running a worm farm or a bug farm.

V

Prolife as well, I can see hunting for food or controlling over population of deer or pest…

I know this isn’t a hunting thread but since I have a few here I have a question.

The pond where I fish has a couple of beavers that are taking down all the trees that surround the pond, this sucks. My buddie wants to take them down with a .22 magnum rifle. I’m worried if he missed the shot the bullit will skip of the surface of the water and carry over to the surrounding houses that are about a quater mile away. I doubht it will make it through the surrounding bush but one in a million right?

Ontario is lousy with beavers right now and are considered a nuisance.

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:
Here’s a thought: How many of you anti-turtle popping dudes are pro-abortion? Shall we stir the pot?
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I’ll go easy on you because you don’t seem very sharp.

The point is that killing just because you have nothing better to do (while drinking apparently) is wrong on many levels. It’s also disgusting that you enjoyed killing animals that can’t defend themselves. In fact, it’s quite cowardly.

I’ll assume (and hope) that you are fairly young and will at some point grow up and mature.

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I’ll go easy on you because you’re from Oklahoma. Not only did I never say anything about drinking, you know nothing of my exploits and calling me a coward is baseless and reprehensible.

You see, Dusty, the real point is that this thread is about walking in fields and shooting stuff. You’re getting your panties in a bunch over a GAL thread on TESTOSTERONE NATION, which is, unfortunately for you, a website. Seeing as websites are found on the INTERNET, I’m sure you have trouble holding back the deluge that is your repressed fury at all things you find unusual or ‘wrong’.

I’ve seen your posts. I know your game. You’re a keyboard jockey with a fire in her eye and no one, and I mean no one, can stop the force of your personal beliefs from eviscerating them through the internetz… Ride on, you lone ranger you. Escape the cold grasp of sarcasm’s talons, for they will crush you in the end.

What I’m saying is this: your 29 years of life experience should have lead you in the path of righteousness and realization and allowed you to see that yeah, I shot some turtles, but I also enjoy a bit of sarcasm in my GAL browsing. If you read this whole thread and didn’t notice the scent, you’re not tall enough for this ride. Have you opinion, please. But don’t go around spouting nonsense and cluttering up my thread about walking through fields and shooting stuff. This is serious business and I don’t need any more drama until I come home from work tomorrow night and watch the new episode of Jersey Shore I DVR’d (in HD, no less).

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I know this isn’t a hunting thread but since I have a few here I have a question.

The pond where I fish has a couple of beavers that are taking down all the trees that surround the pond, this sucks. My buddie wants to take them down with a .22 magnum rifle. I’m worried if he missed the shot the bullit will skip of the surface of the water and carry over to the surrounding houses that are about a quater mile away. I doubht it will make it through the surrounding bush but one in a million right?

Ontario is lousy with beavers right now and are considered a nuisance. [/quote]

12 gauge shotgun is the way to go. Use some 3" slugs for a real spectacular kill. They’ll blow those beavers in two. I have a Weatherby Patrician II 12 gauge pump that does wonders to some of the raccoons at my friend’s farm. Beavers are just raccoons that like to build shit.

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I know this isn’t a hunting thread but since I have a few here I have a question.

The pond where I fish has a couple of beavers that are taking down all the trees that surround the pond, this sucks. My buddie wants to take them down with a .22 magnum rifle. I’m worried if he missed the shot the bullit will skip of the surface of the water and carry over to the surrounding houses that are about a quater mile away. I doubht it will make it through the surrounding bush but one in a million right?

Ontario is lousy with beavers right now and are considered a nuisance. [/quote]

You are right, a 22 mag has a wicked trajectory and will travel quite far. Much better to use a heavier slug with less velocity, maybe even a shotgun slug or maybe a #2 shot. Never killed a beaver but have they tried trapping them?

[quote]Vegita wrote:

And yes, those dead turtles will probably feed some bugs or worms or something which will in turn feed something else etc… It’s not like they were vaporized into thin air, but still. You’re not running a worm farm or a bug farm.

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Not running a worm or bug farm… yet. I’ve been looking to get into some sort of entrepreneurial venture and this might be easier to start than my other preferred choice, a bar. Those liquor licenses are ridiculously hard to acquire.

I appreciate the productive dialogue.

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
Speaking of hunting, has anyone done an African Safari hunt??[/quote]

This thread isn’t really about hunting, but I would definitely like to one day go on a cape buffalo hunt. Those things are nasty. They’re also a bit more dangerous than turtles… which I like. [/quote]
Yeah, I’m going next year, looking around at which hunts to do specifically right now. Looks like Kudu, Wildebeest, shit like that.

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:

And yes, those dead turtles will probably feed some bugs or worms or something which will in turn feed something else etc… It’s not like they were vaporized into thin air, but still. You’re not running a worm farm or a bug farm.

V[/quote]

Not running a worm or bug farm… yet. I’ve been looking to get into some sort of entrepreneurial venture and this might be easier to start than my other preferred choice, a bar. Those liquor licenses are ridiculously hard to acquire.

I appreciate the productive dialogue.
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No Problemo, Have you thought of possibly opening a diner? You could serve weekly specials of turtle soup. When you have enough money, buy a liquor license and trun the bitch into a bar. You could then put a micro brew in the back and make your own beer. Possible bar and beer names would be, “Turtle Guts”, “Turtle Juice”, “The Tortise and the Hare of the dog”, “I Hate Turtles” and of course the always popular, “Turtle Piss Ale/ Alehouse”

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[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]Rev1911 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
Speaking of hunting, has anyone done an African Safari hunt??[/quote]

This thread isn’t really about hunting, but I would definitely like to one day go on a cape buffalo hunt. Those things are nasty. They’re also a bit more dangerous than turtles… which I like. [/quote]
Yeah, I’m going next year, looking around at which hunts to do specifically right now. Looks like Kudu, Wildebeest, shit like that.[/quote]

That’s awesome, man. I definitely would like to do one in the next 3-4 years. My dad and grandfather have been a few times. I’d also like like to make it up to Alaska and bag a Kodiak bear.