Do you think manslaughter and murder should have the same punishment?
The law recognizes the role of intent in committing crimes, as a general rule.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Do you think manslaughter and murder should have the same punishment?
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What is the difference between manslaughter and murder to the victim’s family?
Punishment is pointless. A just society would seek to have the criminal make amends or compensate to the victims for their loss. Furthermore, only the criminal would pay, not the victims and certainly not taxpayers.
I knew someone who’s husband was killed by a drunk driver. And she herself broke her hip and lost one of her legs in the accident. The person driving drunk was given probation, yes just PROBATION.
I find this pathetic considering there was a death and a very serious injury. The drunk woman who hit my friend, is appealing the probation in attempts to get an even lighter sentence. I pray the judge slams her with manslaughter to show her not to look a gift horse in the mouth. This is how twisted our justice system is.
Good work, Tiribulus. You did the right thing.
This is an excerpt from an article in a social work journal. It reminded me of this conversation:
[quote]Similarly, those trafficked tend to have little control regarding the sexual acts they will be required to perform for pimps and buyers. Young women and girls may be forced to engage in abusive and degrading sexual acts (Raymond, 2004). For example, women may be whipped and then urinated on while others stand by and watch (Raymond & Hughes, 2001). Children may be handcuffed and compelled to have sex with dogs and then forced to eat from dog food bowls and drink from toilets (Estes & Weiner, 2001).
The pornography business in the United States is extremely profitable (Hughes, 2000b). Although organized criminal networks typically refrain from trafficking children younger than nine years of age, an exception is made for very young children who are used in pornography (Estes & Weiner, 2001). Flowers (2001) reported that at least 264 different magazines feature children in sexually explicit acts. These magazines can be produced for 50 cents and sold for 20 times as much. Videotapes depict children being raped, tortured, and murdered (Flowers, 2001).
Online Victimization
The United States is also home to the Internet-based pornography business (Hughes, 2000b), a medium that has opened up new opportunities for traffickers to exploit women (Hughes, 2003b; Long, 2004). Video conferencing technology allows real-time transmission of events to essentially anywhere in the world. One of the first uses of this technology was the live transmission to buyers of girls being sexually abused (Hughes, 2000b).
The Internet also fosters the exploitation of young women and girls in areas where prostitution is either legal or more likely to be tolerated. Relative to the United States, Japan has more restrictive laws concerning pornography. In one operation that was uncovered, women were trafficked from Japan to Hawaii, where they were used to perform in live Internet sex shows targeted toward Japanese audiences (Hughes, 2002). The U.S.-based performances were broadcast in real time with buyers in Japan making requests for specific sexual acts over the Internet.
In some instances, pimps may locate Internet sites in other nations, which have less restrictive laws. The resulting images can then be sold to customers in the United States, which represents the largest market for Internet pornography (Hughes, 2000b). One U.S. citizen traveled to Cambodia to set up a site titled “the rape camp” which featured trafficked “Asian sex slaves” who were gagged, bound, and blindfolded while being used in various sex acts (Hughes, 2000b). Viewers could relay requests for sexual torture that would be fulfilled in real time. Although this particular site was shut down by Cambodian authorities after receiving widespread attention, others exist. For instance, one Russian-based site advertised itself as the “most violent rape site on earth” and featured an extensive selection of “violent rapes, ass rapes, mouth rapes, gang rapes, nigger rapes, torn vaginas, and tortured clits” (Hughes, 2002, p. 139). Several sites now use encryption technology to hide the ways in which young women and girls are exploited (Hughes, 2000b).
–Hodge (2008) Sexual trafficking in the United States: a domestic problem with transnational dimensions. [/quote]
Evil, evil stuff.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
This is an excerpt from an article in a social work journal. It reminded me of this conversation:
Similarly, those trafficked tend to have little control regarding the sexual acts they will be required to perform for pimps and buyers. Young women and girls may be forced to engage in abusive and degrading sexual acts (Raymond, 2004). For example, women may be whipped and then urinated on while others stand by and watch (Raymond & Hughes, 2001). Children may be handcuffed and compelled to have sex with dogs and then forced to eat from dog food bowls and drink from toilets (Estes & Weiner, 2001).
The pornography business in the United States is extremely profitable (Hughes, 2000b). Although organized criminal networks typically refrain from trafficking children younger than nine years of age, an exception is made for very young children who are used in pornography (Estes & Weiner, 2001). Flowers (2001) reported that at least 264 different magazines feature children in sexually explicit acts. These magazines can be produced for 50 cents and sold for 20 times as much. Videotapes depict children being raped, tortured, and murdered (Flowers, 2001).
Online Victimization
The United States is also home to the Internet-based pornography business (Hughes, 2000b), a medium that has opened up new opportunities for traffickers to exploit women (Hughes, 2003b; Long, 2004). Video conferencing technology allows real-time transmission of events to essentially anywhere in the world. One of the first uses of this technology was the live transmission to buyers of girls being sexually abused (Hughes, 2000b).
The Internet also fosters the exploitation of young women and girls in areas where prostitution is either legal or more likely to be tolerated. Relative to the United States, Japan has more restrictive laws concerning pornography. In one operation that was uncovered, women were trafficked from Japan to Hawaii, where they were used to perform in live Internet sex shows targeted toward Japanese audiences (Hughes, 2002). The U.S.-based performances were broadcast in real time with buyers in Japan making requests for specific sexual acts over the Internet.
In some instances, pimps may locate Internet sites in other nations, which have less restrictive laws. The resulting images can then be sold to customers in the United States, which represents the largest market for Internet pornography (Hughes, 2000b). One U.S. citizen traveled to Cambodia to set up a site titled “the rape camp” which featured trafficked “Asian sex slaves” who were gagged, bound, and blindfolded while being used in various sex acts (Hughes, 2000b). Viewers could relay requests for sexual torture that would be fulfilled in real time. Although this particular site was shut down by Cambodian authorities after receiving widespread attention, others exist. For instance, one Russian-based site advertised itself as the “most violent rape site on earth” and featured an extensive selection of “violent rapes, ass rapes, mouth rapes, gang rapes, nigger rapes, torn vaginas, and tortured clits” (Hughes, 2002, p. 139). Several sites now use encryption technology to hide the ways in which young women and girls are exploited (Hughes, 2000b).
–Hodge (2008) Sexual trafficking in the United States: a domestic problem with transnational dimensions.
Evil, evil stuff.[/quote]
Everyone involved should be killed by a 22 lr to the back of the head and dumped in a mass grave and burned. No funerals, no gravestones. They should be treated no better than my garbage as it is thrown out.
And CCI mini mags are 6.49 for a hundred rounds. A Ruger 10/22 would cost app. 150$ -200$ and shoot probably 20,000 times before you need a new barrel. Hell, you would hardly have to clean the gun.
These people are evil to even consider this and need to be permanently removed from society at the cheapest cost, IE, 10 cents or so, tops. They are worth no more than that for what they do.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
tom63 wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
This is an excerpt from an article in a social work journal. It reminded me of this conversation:
Similarly, those trafficked tend to have little control regarding the sexual acts they will be required to perform for pimps and buyers. Young women and girls may be forced to engage in abusive and degrading sexual acts (Raymond, 2004).
For example, women may be whipped and then urinated on while others stand by and watch (Raymond & Hughes, 2001). Children may be handcuffed and compelled to have sex with dogs and then forced to eat from dog food bowls and drink from toilets (Estes & Weiner, 2001).
The pornography business in the United States is extremely profitable (Hughes, 2000b). Although organized criminal networks typically refrain from trafficking children younger than nine years of age, an exception is made for very young children who are used in pornography (Estes & Weiner, 2001).
Flowers (2001) reported that at least 264 different magazines feature children in sexually explicit acts. These magazines can be produced for 50 cents and sold for 20 times as much. Videotapes depict children being raped, tortured, and murdered (Flowers, 2001).
Online Victimization
The United States is also home to the Internet-based pornography business (Hughes, 2000b), a medium that has opened up new opportunities for traffickers to exploit women (Hughes, 2003b; Long, 2004).
Video conferencing technology allows real-time transmission of events to essentially anywhere in the world. One of the first uses of this technology was the live transmission to buyers of girls being sexually abused (Hughes, 2000b).
The Internet also fosters the exploitation of young women and girls in areas where prostitution is either legal or more likely to be tolerated. Relative to the United States, Japan has more restrictive laws concerning pornography.
In one operation that was uncovered, women were trafficked from Japan to Hawaii, where they were used to perform in live Internet sex shows targeted toward Japanese audiences (Hughes, 2002).
The U.S.-based performances were broadcast in real time with buyers in Japan making requests for specific sexual acts over the Internet.
In some instances, pimps may locate Internet sites in other nations, which have less restrictive laws. The resulting images can then be sold to customers in the United States, which represents the largest market for Internet pornography (Hughes, 2000b).
One U.S. citizen traveled to Cambodia to set up a site titled “the rape camp” which featured trafficked “Asian sex slaves” who were gagged, bound, and blindfolded while being used in various sex acts (Hughes, 2000b).
Viewers could relay requests for sexual torture that would be fulfilled in real time. Although this particular site was shut down by Cambodian authorities after receiving widespread attention, others exist.
For instance, one Russian-based site advertised itself as the “most violent rape site on earth” and featured an extensive selection of “violent rapes, ass rapes, mouth rapes, gang rapes, nigger rapes, torn vaginas, and tortured clits” (Hughes, 2002, p. 139). Several sites now use encryption technology to hide the ways in which young women and girls are exploited (Hughes, 2000b).
–Hodge (2008) Sexual trafficking in the United States: a domestic problem with transnational dimensions.
Evil, evil stuff.
Everyone involved should be killed by a 22 lr to the back of the head and dumped in a mass grave and burned. No funerals, no gravestones. They should be treated no better than my garbage as it is thrown out.
And CCI mini mags are 6.49 for a hundred rounds. A Ruger 10/22 would cost app. 150$ -200$ and shoot probably 20,000 times before you need a new barrel. Hell, you would hardly have to clean the gun.
These people are evil to even consider this and need to be permanently removed from society at the cheapest cost, IE, 10 cents or so, tops. They are worth no more than that for what they do.
And yet there are two or three posters (maybe more who don’t post?) on this very thread who have no problem with people involved in this sordid activity as long as they limit their involvement to just viewing.[/quote]
Well, they’re well established morons. I don’t think anything suggested for the kids is necessarily a valid excuse for action in every case. but child pornography is up there with the other established worst possible crimes.
The sick bastards who would do this and who get off on this should be put down with little fanfare and with the least expense possible.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Everyone involved should be killed by a 22 lr to the back of the head and dumped in a mass grave and burned. No funerals, no gravestones. They should be treated no better than my garbage as it is thrown out.
And CCI mini mags are 6.49 for a hundred rounds. A Ruger 10/22 would cost app. 150$ -200$ and shoot probably 20,000 times before you need a new barrel. Hell, you would hardly have to clean the gun.
These people are evil to even consider this and need to be permanently removed from society at the cheapest cost, IE, 10 cents or so, tops. They are worth no more than that for what they do.
[/quote]
You know, this post got me thinking. There are quite a few of these creeps out there and your economy is in the toilet (apparently). How about you round 'em up and let the public execute them in whatever manner seems fit to them all for a small one off fee of $1,999.95?
And then you could sell a DVD of the execution for $19.95 and edit in the bloopers and put a great voice over to it “mXc” style.
You could also sell tickets to the execution and make it a family day out.
I know I’d pay several times - I have some great ideas for execution and no one listens to me.
This is way over the turban of you talibans.
Reading this thread makes me realize many of you are simply fond of enjoying the luxury of ignorance, same way fatasses are somewhat right to enjoy a life of nonexercise. And why should they when there are golfcars, television and an endless supply of delicious carbs in all flavours, salty, sweet, dripping with fat?
And why should you think over the implications of your shariah-logic? It’s so good to be able to crush all those pedos with your 25 inch biceps on the internets.
To all you gun-ho freedom fighters, you never fail to point out the causal chain starting out from gun ban> and ending with >personal freedom.
How is it so hard to understand that this
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/04/tech/main4776708.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4776708
can be way more dangerous?
I mean, how can I make this easier for you to understand:
As a male, I find guns supercool but cannot follow the “polite society faction” here. Because till now, they don’t convince me.
Pedophile predators, on the other hand, I don’t think I have to exaplain how I feel for them.
Yet still, I gladly protect some of them, therby endangering my family a little more, for freedom’s sake.
Because it’s worth it.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
You know, this post got me thinking. There are quite a few of these creeps out there and your economy is in the toilet (apparently). How about you round 'em up and let the public execute them in whatever manner seems fit to them all for a small one off fee of $1,999.95?
And then you could sell a DVD of the execution for $19.95 and edit in the bloopers and put a great voice over to it “mXc” style.
You could also sell tickets to the execution and make it a family day out.
I know I’d pay several times - I have some great ideas for execution and no one listens to me.[/quote]
Makavali, why?
You… too have a thirty inch biceps and crush pedos with your awesome coc#4 closing, 1000lbs benchpressing calloused hands?
NoOooooO…
Ceterum censeo, all we need is to reinstitute the office of a national headsman.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
This is way over the turban of you talibans.
[/quote]
Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on this board.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Only the most worthless and ignorant of cocksuckers would equate the personal ownership of guns with child porn.[/quote]
It’s probably worthless, but I’ll try:
Why do you want to protect one thing (Guns) at all costs, when the other (Privacy) is at least as precious to freedom? (A lot more in my book!)
And I , too can make emotional, selective, out of the conext citations:
Do you realize that by allowing guns YOU ARM CHILD MOLESTERS, too?
Why are you arming CHILD MOLESTERS?
Do you honestly expect me to take advice from an illiterate regarding literature?
If I’ve learned something, it’s that you can’t argue with Montana Taliban.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Makavali, why?
You… too have a thirty inch biceps and crush pedos with your awesome coc#4 closing, 1000lbs benchpressing calloused hands?
NoOooooO…
Ceterum censeo, all we need is to reinstitute the office of a national headsman.[/quote]
Mate, the only thing I find truly repulsive and contrary to the progression of the species is pedophilia.
“Filleted” implies being able to use certain instruments with precision, or, in your case, receiving help from an adult.
You lack both in this thread.
If you’re frustrated because you can’t engage an argument intellectually, just click to the SAMA Forum to let off some steam. It’s ok.
Using ad hominems instead means in every debating culture that you’re a drooling idiot.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
…If I’ve learned something, it’s that you can’t argue with Montana Taliban.
You surely can’t. Every time you make an attempt to do so you get filleted. [/quote]
Yes, because you swing your rhetorical sledgehammer with such surgical precision.