I asked the teacher why he couldn’t read a book instead of sleeping, which he asked to do just before she told him to put his head down on his desk, and her answer was “It’s vocab time, not reading time.” Yeah, but sleeping is totally acceptable during vocab time. It’s no wonder he would disrupt the class to get the hell out of there.
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My first teacher granted me full access to the school library and let me read whatever I wanted during classes.
Unfortunately she broke her leg and we go a new one who was not ok with that.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
We NEVER hit our son. He’s never been a problem at school or anywhere. My wife and I were VERY consistent and on the same page as far as discipline at home goes. Also, I never rough-housed with my son when he was young.
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You sound like my dad and that’s meant in the most complimentary way.
I never thought about rough-housing and what might happen, as my dad never did that with me either. Sounds like a good idea not to do that. He was strict but never needed to hit me as he just seemed untouchable. He’s my dad! sort of thing.
My dad was the kind that IF the teacher called home or something like that. he’d immediately take the teacher’s side.
Some of the worst parents with the worst students I’ve seen are the ones that always blame the school or teacher first.
Congratulations! You’ve bred another jerk![/quote]
My Father always took my side. Even if he agreed with the teacher, and he was on both our sides. He never left my side, probably having to do with other parenting issues that went on. This was mostly because I was in the right.
Although, he showed that he would never leave my side when I beat a kid up after school when he tattled on me (I didn’t even know what I said was wrong). A teacher called my father after breaking up the beat down. My father just took me home and told the teacher that they should teach the kids to not tattle on other kids.
I really have not been a hell raiser around my father though. I never lie, and I tried to be good. I didn’t turn into a jerk.
Some of the worst parents with the worst students I’ve seen are the ones that always blame the school or teacher first.
Congratulations! You’ve bred another jerk![/quote]
I call them the “NMFK” parents. Their kid could burn a house down and be on video doing it and they’re the first to yell, “Not My Fuckin Kid! My kid would never…”.
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NMFK was my mom, but that’s because her sentence ended with, “…do dumb shit like that, because he knows he’d get his ass beat.” Which an ass beating would usually follow after that comment.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I don’t understand the logic that whenever a kid acts up in class he becomes “smart” and he’s already memorized the periodic tables and now he’s bored.
I was a shit disturber in school and I consider myself average in the smarts department. My son doesen’t cause shit in school so does that make him dumb?, he’s not, his marks are always in the eighties, not spectacular but better than most of his class through the years.
Lew, I had the same situation when our son was younger, we said to him “smoke the kid as hard as you can and we’ll deal with it” worked like a charm. They became best friends after that lol, go figure.
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I’ll have to say, except for the kid that tattled on me in the fourth grade, every kid I got in a fight with I became good friends with.
[quote]Nards wrote:
And don’t talk shit about teachers and school in front of your kids!
They hear that and then see that the mom and dad that they already knew were the king and queen of the house are apparently king and queen of the school too.[/quote]
[quote]Nards wrote:
And don’t talk shit about teachers and school in front of your kids!
They hear that and then see that the mom and dad that they already knew were the king and queen of the house are apparently king and queen of the school too.[/quote]
well the schools these days are pretty much crap.[/quote]
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Conversation from the girlfriend earlier this morning:
“What you up to, punk?”
“Coloring.”
“Bored?”
“No, Chemistry.”
“You’re coloring in Chemistry?”
“Yes.”
“What are you coloring…in Chemistry?”
“Periodic Table”
“Aren’t you supposed to learn the Periodic Table. And, why are they waiting til your senior year to teach you the period table?”
“No just color it. IDK”
“…That is unbelievable, you learning anything?”
“No.”
Half an hour later…
“Learning anything now.”
“No, just in English.”
“You don’t have any literature you’re studying.”
“No, we’re just supposed to write papers and turn them in.”
“So it’s creative writing?”
“No, she just gives us points for participating.”
“What kind of English is it?”
“History: Understanding History through Literature (1400’s to 1864)”
“And you haven’t read anything in the class?”
“No, but maybe we’ll be able to color in this class.”
“Coloring for HS Diplomas. FTW!”
[quote]Nards wrote:
And don’t talk shit about teachers and school in front of your kids!
They hear that and then see that the mom and dad that they already knew were the king and queen of the house are apparently king and queen of the school too.[/quote]
well the schools these days are pretty much crap.[/quote]
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Conversation from the girlfriend earlier this morning:
“What you up to, punk?”
“Coloring.”
“Bored?”
“No, Chemistry.”
“You’re coloring in Chemistry?”
“Yes.”
“What are you coloring…in Chemistry?”
“Periodic Table”
“Aren’t you supposed to learn the Periodic Table. And, why are they waiting til your senior year to teach you the period table?”
“No just color it. IDK”
“…That is unbelievable, you learning anything?”
“No.”
Half an hour later…
“Learning anything now.”
“No, just in English.”
“You don’t have any literature you’re studying.”
“No, we’re just supposed to write papers and turn them in.”
“So it’s creative writing?”
“No, she just gives us points for participating.”
“What kind of English is it?”
“History: Understanding History through Literature (1400’s to 1864)”
“And you haven’t read anything in the class?”
“No, but maybe we’ll be able to color in this class.”
“Coloring for HS Diplomas. FTW!”[/quote]
So your girlfriend is in high school? Where are you that the schools are such crap? My seventh grader is doing algebra, which I didn’t get until ninth grade. I’m very happy with the quality of teachers and education my child is receiving.
I never understood the necessity of memorizing the periodic table. Learn it yes, but if you need to reference it, look in the damn book.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I never understood the necessity of memorizing the periodic table. Learn it yes, but if you need to reference it, look in the damn book.
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I have this debate daily with professors and other phd students who want to teach. Knowing how to use something and “properly reference” is in my mind a lot more important then memorizing something. I use the periodic table all the time in my work and therby have a few elements I use a lot memorized but other then that, how does that help you. Meanwhile we have one guy who has it “almost memorized” but messes up all the time and would be better served looking it up.
memorization v understanding is too very different things. back in the day memorizing was more important, now, not so much.
I can’t read through everyone’s posts, but I note that your whole discussion was about his behavior and how others are handling it. What about your (and your wife’s) behavior towards him? Does he get any/enough positive attention at home and at school. As you say, he thrives on the negative attention. A lot of times this is because a kid isn’t getting enough positive attention.
Have you and your wife sat him down together and told him that you don’t approve of this behavior? I ask b/c you didn’t say and it doesn’t sound like your wife necessarily disapproves.
Look into how you are parenting him before taking action.
We ultimately ended up taking our son out of public school and putting him in Montessori for 2 years. It was expensive, but well worth it. He wasn’t bullying, but was getting into mischief and we had countless meetings where we would discuss ways of dealing with the behavior at home and at school. Bottom line, he was ahead of the class academically and was bored out of his mind so he was acting up a bit. Once he got into the smaller classes with more autonomy and was given some responsibility for his learning at the new school (4-5 grades), he has been great in school.