[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Don’t get me started on Birthright Citizenship.[/quote]
Citizenship should be made contigent on at least one of the parents being a naturalized citizen who contributes to the national revenue through taxes. [/quote]
Completely agree. [/quote]
Agree. Federal income taxes, not local sales taxes right?
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Don’t get me started on Birthright Citizenship.[/quote]
Citizenship should be made contigent on at least one of the parents being a naturalized citizen who contributes to the national revenue through taxes. [/quote]
Completely agree. [/quote]
Agree. Federal income taxes, not local sales taxes right?
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Naturally. One shouldn’t benefit from government services if they do not contribute to government revenues.
What would you submit the threshold be?
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
What would you submit the threshold be? [/quote]
I’d leave the exact figure to someone with a much greater understanding of economics and/or accounting than myself.
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
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I love the professors quote in that article…such typical ivory tower academic vomit.
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
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I love the professors quote in that article…such typical ivory tower academic vomit.
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”
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Holy fucking shit. Hey where’s “don’t blame the victim!”?? I don’t hear that refrain being shouted about to this guy in the same way the “offensive” t-shirt wearing comet probe scientist got eviscerated for a fucking t-shirt…
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
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I love the professors quote in that article…such typical ivory tower academic vomit.
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”
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I also love this because what it’s saying by implication is that “men are no better than animals” because they cannot be considered responsible for their hideous crimes, just as an animal is not morally responsible for humping a doe in Rut. This viewpoint is demeaning to everybody
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
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I love the professors quote in that article…such typical ivory tower academic vomit.
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”
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I also love this because what it’s saying by implication is that “men are no better than animals” because they cannot be considered responsible for their hideous crimes, just as an animal is not morally responsible for humping a doe in Rut. This viewpoint is demeaning to everybody[/quote]
I am gonna go out on a limb and say the professor is muslim.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
[/quote]
I love the professors quote in that article…such typical ivory tower academic vomit.
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”
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Boy that’s difficult to stomach.
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Norway is getting a handle on their immigration problem, with a reported 31% decrease in crime
http://pickeringpost.com/story/erna-grabs-a-problem-by-the-balls/4133
[/quote]
I love the professors quote in that article…such typical ivory tower academic vomit.
“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”
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Boy that’s difficult to stomach.
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It’s only a matter of time until you start hearing that kind of talk in the U.S., as we get more “progressive”.
The quote is kind of taken out of context
Reading the whole dialogue, it seems more like if you’re Norwegian, don’t be stupid around non-Norwegians eg Muslim men, because they think differently. But yeah, it’s not a very good position to find yourself in.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
The quote is kind of taken out of context
Reading the whole dialogue, it seems more like if you’re Norwegian, don’t be stupid around non-Norwegians eg Muslim men, because they think differently. But yeah, it’s not a very good position to find yourself in.[/quote]
I see where you are coming from…but I don’t care if you have a 1000 words about how great the ladies of Norway are, you write that sentence you should be kicked in the face.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
The quote is kind of taken out of context
Reading the whole dialogue, it seems more like if you’re Norwegian, don’t be stupid around non-Norwegians eg Muslim men, because they think differently. But yeah, it’s not a very good position to find yourself in.[/quote]
From the interview with the author from the source you found…
Wikan, who is a profession of social anthropology, thinks Norwegian women must take their share in the responsibility for having rapes occur. She explains the appalling number by among other things, the culture conflicts that often arise between Norwegian women and foreign men.
She is kinda doubling down here.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
The quote is kind of taken out of context
Reading the whole dialogue, it seems more like if you’re Norwegian, don’t be stupid around non-Norwegians eg Muslim men, because they think differently. But yeah, it’s not a very good position to find yourself in.[/quote]
From the interview with the author from the source you found…
Wikan, who is a profession of social anthropology, thinks Norwegian women must take their share in the responsibility for having rapes occur. She explains the appalling number by among other things, the culture conflicts that often arise between Norwegian women and foreign men.
She is kinda doubling down here.[/quote]
Yeah, it definitely isn’t good. The part about Norwegian women taking responsibility looks like it’s the writers words, but I’m not really sure as I haven’t read any more than what’s been posted.
This part
“I will not blame Norwegian women for the rapes. But Norwegian women must understand that we live in a multi-cultural society and adapt themselves to it.”
I have mixed feelings of. Like I get the “don’t walk down dark alleys at night” thinking, like you’re asking for trouble. But then the “we live in a multi-cultural society” part irks me. IMO, immigrating means the immigrant adapts, I’m kind of getting fed up with the “you have to accommodate people”.
I think I kind of got shit on for this before, but I’ll say it again. In the reverse situation, eg westerner moving to Middle East, there is little to no accommodation for our priorities/freedoms. Then I got shit on saying why should we lower ourselves to their standards. I just think that it’s like overextending your capabilities. What’s the point of accommodating the entire world if it just leads to your own destruction? The path of the cultural martyr, no thanks.
I still think I’m right. I don’t think enabling the erosion of our society (or western civilization, whatever you want to call it) that gives all these other people more freedom than they had where they came from, and they want to turn it around and make it like the shitholes they left behind. Like if you just want to turn Norway (or insert other country) into the Middle East, why did you leave in the first place?
It’s an interesting debate.
Kind of having a hard time describing what I mean.
It’s like if you had some interest from investments, you could lend someone in need all your money (the principal), or just some (the interest). If you lend the interest (just give a little help), you still have the principal and are stable. But if you give it all away, you’re fucked, lol.
It’s like this thing I read today
Which has some truth to it
And this
It seems like a slippery-slope situation.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Kind of having a hard time describing what I mean.
It’s like if you had some interest from investments, you could lend someone in need all your money (the principal), or just some (the interest). If you lend the interest (just give a little help), you still have the principal and are stable. But if you give it all away, you’re fucked, lol.
It’s like this thing I read today
Which has some truth to it
And this
It seems like a slippery-slope situation.
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Totally agree…slippery indeed
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…There’s a middle ground. I think like anything illegal, its actually 100% better to make it legal and manage it rather than keep it illegal and try to ignore that it happens…”
Excellent post, Ozzy…
Mufasa [/quote]
Like murder? Rape? Theft? Kidnapping? Assault? Treason?
Stupidest Post of the Week is what it is, Muf, surely not an “excellent” one.
Good grief.[/quote]
“Anything” probably should have been "…there are some things we have labeled “illegal”…
“Anything” was too all-encompassing.
(…so “Good Grief” back at 'ya, Push!)