Excellent interview by Nash!
People are actually blaming murders on steroids? I don’t watch much tv, but I am amazed that this agenda is being pushed to this degree. Have cocaine busts simply not been allowing the creation of enough careers?
I haven’t watched Hannity and Colms in a while but that was ridiculous. I know they want more ratings, but his attempt to guide the interview right where he wanted was so obvious it was unprofessional. The woman who jumped in and cut him off shows the media is out of control.
This is what many people actually turn to for news even though many try to blow it off as simply being a “news talk show”. Her attempt to make it seem as if Congress needs to be involved makes me wonder what the problem is.
Kevin Nash did a good job of holding his position, but it is clear that no one is listening.
I thought he did an alright job, a little tongue tied at times and definitely was not given enough time to state some of his stance, especially at the end.
The interviewers were HOOOORRRIIIBLLLLE in my opinion. It was so blatantly obvious that once they found out he did steroids they were just trying to milk that for all it was worth.
And they shut him down in the end so he couldn’t set things straight. Fuckers.
Very well spoken.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
People are actually blaming murders on steroids? I don’t watch much tv, but I am amazed that this agenda is being pushed to this degree. Have cocaine busts simply not been allowing the creation of enough careers?[/quote]
They sure are! Don’t you know this roid rage menace is a rampant menace to our kids?
I think people are too addicted to scare movies: they need menace somewhere and drugs and alcohol is just too commonplace now. They need a new bad guy to blame and there you have your steroids outrage.
I like the fact that Nash pointed out that alcohol was found there but no one mentionned it, especially the interviewers who purposefully did not react. Lame!
Most of the pro wrestlers that have appeared since the Benoit tragedy have been very well spoken. The media, unfortunately, has their own agenda, and as Nash said, are looking for a “sexy story”.
I usually like Sean Hannity, but this is an area he is clearly misinformed about and wholly unqualified to have an opinion on. I have seen no evidence that anabolics induce behavior in people that they wouldn’t have engaged in at some point anyway. I really doubt if anadrol + Alan Colmes = the next shooting spree.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I haven’t watched Hannity and Colms in a while but that was ridiculous. I know they want more ratings, but his attempt to guide the interview right where he wanted was so obvious it was unprofessional. The woman who jumped in and cut him off shows the media is out of control.[/quote]
It’s entertainment now. It’s funny, in England they have a ban on shitty journalism like this but they are actually considering adopting the US model to increase the amount of viewers. How do we tell them…
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I usually like Sean Hannity, but this is an area he is clearly misinformed about and wholly unqualified to have an opinion on. I have seen no evidence that anabolics induce behavior in people that they wouldn’t have engaged in at some point anyway. I really doubt if anadrol + Alan Colmes = the next shooting spree.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure sean hannity is misinformed and unqualified to talk about any subject.
[quote]zooropa1150 wrote:
I’m pretty sure sean hannity is misinformed and unqualified to talk about any subject.[/quote]
LOL!
Are there ANY informed and qualified people in TV ‘NEWS’ land?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I usually like Sean Hannity, but this is an area he is clearly misinformed about and wholly unqualified to have an opinion on. I have seen no evidence that anabolics induce behavior in people that they wouldn’t have engaged in at some point anyway. I really doubt if anadrol + Alan Colmes = the next shooting spree.[/quote]
What are you talking about? Give some examples of how people will engage in an activity no matter whether they take steroids or not. It is ridiculous to blame steroids for that murder, their were so many other factors no one probably will ever know exactly what happened with Benoit and what exactly caused it.
What is for sure is that he had some serious problems. But you seem really sure that there is no way whatsoever steroids could have had any effect at all on that situation. None at all. For sure?
I dont think this is a big problem at all, there are so many other big problems in the country that should be addressed way before this crap. Nash was right, its a sexy topic as of late. But dont act like there is no way steroids had anything to do with that murder.
Pope HG, Katz DL.
Biological Psychiatry Laboratory, McLean Hospital, Belmont, Mass.
BACKGROUND: We sought to expand on preliminary findings suggesting that anabolic-androgenic steroids produce psychiatric effects in some athletes who use them.
METHODS: We compared 88 athletes who were using steroids with 68 nonusers, using the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-III-R to diagnose psychiatric syndromes occurring in association with steroid use (if applicable) and in the absence of steroid use. Demographic, medical, and laboratory measures were also performed.
RESULTS: Steroid users displayed more frequent gynecomastia, decreased mean testicular length, and higher cholesterol-high-density lipoprotein ratios than nonusers. Most strikingly, 23% of steroid users reported major mood syndromes–mania, hypomania, or major depression–in association with steroid use. Steroid users displayed mood disorders during steroid exposure significantly more frequently than in the absence of steroid exposure (P < .001) and significantly more frequently than nonusers (P < .01). Users rarely abused other drugs simultaneously with steroids.
CONCLUSION: Major mood disturbances associated with anabolic-androgenic steroids may represent an important public health problem for athletes using steroids and sometimes for the victims of their irritability and aggression.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
People are actually blaming murders on steroids? I don’t watch much tv, but I am amazed that this agenda is being pushed to this degree. Have cocaine busts simply not been allowing the creation of enough careers?
I haven’t watched Hannity and Colms in a while but that was ridiculous. I know they want more ratings, but his attempt to guide the interview right where he wanted was so obvious it was unprofessional. The woman who jumped in and cut him off shows the media is out of control.
This is what many people actually turn to for news even though many try to blow it off as simply being a “news talk show”. Her attempt to make it seem as if Congress needs to be involved makes me wonder what the problem is.
Kevin Nash did a good job of holding his position, but it is clear that no one is listening.[/quote]
Im suprised at you Professor X. You usually provide the most well-rounded thought-out post on any topic you discuss. As smart as you are, you sound just like everyone else on this one. Just like Hannity and Colmes sound uneducated and way off-base, everyone on this thread sounds the same way. Usually in this type of debate there is some truth that lies between the two extremes, usually not as bad as one group would have you think or as harmless as the other.
He did a very good job.
It’s quite telling that when he called them on their agenda they tried to attack his credibility and the legitimacy of his livelyhood.
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
People are actually blaming murders on steroids? I don’t watch much tv, but I am amazed that this agenda is being pushed to this degree. Have cocaine busts simply not been allowing the creation of enough careers?
I haven’t watched Hannity and Colms in a while but that was ridiculous. I know they want more ratings, but his attempt to guide the interview right where he wanted was so obvious it was unprofessional. The woman who jumped in and cut him off shows the media is out of control.
This is what many people actually turn to for news even though many try to blow it off as simply being a “news talk show”. Her attempt to make it seem as if Congress needs to be involved makes me wonder what the problem is.
Kevin Nash did a good job of holding his position, but it is clear that no one is listening.
Im suprised at you Professor X. You usually provide the most well-rounded thought-out post on any topic you discuss. As smart as you are, you sound just like everyone else on this one. Just like Hannity and Colmes sound uneducated and way off-base, everyone on this thread sounds the same way. Usually in this type of debate there is some truth that lies between the two extremes, usually not as bad as one group would have you think or as harmless as the other.
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You believe your responses in this thread are educated while everyone else’s aren’t? The truth is that the man hasn’t even had the results of his autopsy released and that while alive, he had several bouts with alcohol, a substance KNOWN WITHOUT DOUBT to increase hostility and aggression. This gets passed over to label steroids as the cause of murdering two other people over an entire weekend and then committing suicide?
Let’s see if your education can follow this next statement…since when does uncontrollable spontaneous rage get drawn out into an entire weekend of death?
Your mistake, as well as that of those talking heads on television, is missing the obvious. There are people who show spontaneous rage while driving and steroids are not the cause. However, spontaneous…doesn’t last for DAYS.
The simple facts surrounding this case would seem to speak AGAINST “roid rage” if ever a thing could even be proven without doubt to exist.
Unfortunately, I am not surprised by this latest piece of crap from you.
[quote]novagreg wrote:
Most of the pro wrestlers that have appeared since the Benoit tragedy have been very well spoken. The media, unfortunately, has their own agenda, and as Nash said, are looking for a “sexy story”. [/quote]
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I am an educated, articulate person who tries to argue a point with some level of rationality. However, interviews like this piss me the fuck off. I hate when so-called journalists bring people onto their show, ask them questions then basically tune them out because they don’t like what they are saying.
I don’t use steroids, but I am also for the most part anti-government when it comes to controlled substances. The interviewer mentioned that baseball had to go before Congress about their steroid problem. What’s funny is I don’t see Congress dragging in the thousands of celebrity actors who check in and out of rehab like a traveling salesman checks into hotels.
Once again, the government has decided to pick its battles. Prohibition didn’t work, so they outlawed marijuana. The “war” on hardcore street drugs like meth and cocaine is a failure so the government has turned its eye towards steroids. I guarantee alcohol, cocaine, hell even cigarettes, are responsible for more deaths than steroids are. ALL drugs are bad when they are abused. People kill themselves by overdosing on Tylenol PM for god’s sake.
Just watched it. Kevin Nash came across pretty darned well. I suspect that if he had the time, had this interview gone on, he would have exposed their argument.
Did Steroids play a role? YES. Without a doubt. Why? Because everything involved played a part. Chris’ complete make-up, his lifestyle, his occupation, all of his stress, his meals, the other drugs, yadda, yadda. You can’t go back in time, remove one ingredient in the huge equation and scientifically test it.
This is why I never watch the news on TV. There are so many hidden agendas that are blatantly obvious to clear minded non-sheeple. I agree with Keven, the media is a just big business trying to sell its product. Real journalism is dead.
[quote]Irish Muscle wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
Just watched it. Kevin Nash came across pretty darned well. I suspect that if he had the time, had this interview gone on, he would have exposed their argument.
Did Steroids play a role? YES. Without a doubt. Why? Because everything involved played a part. Chris’ complete make-up, his lifestyle, his occupation, all of his stress, his meals, the other drugs, yadda, yadda. You can’t go back in time, remove one ingredient in the huge equation and scientifically test it.
i agree. the reprters cut him off because they realised that kevin nash
actually has a brain and knows the truth.
They tried their best to twist the debate to make him look like a foolish meath head, only they didnt realise that he was well able to handle himself.
I think that interview would have shed some light to brain washed people across the globe.
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No the average person probably listened when they called Nash a liar that he had never seen an instance of “roid rage.” Freakin scumbags