[quote]roybot wrote:
P.P.S Have either of you smartasses eaten dog yet? [/quote]
interesting, anyone know if there is a thread on a similar topic on the site? search doesn’t show anything.
for the record i have tried it,among other things and its not great, kind of like stringy pork.
would i eat it on a regular basis? no, it doesn’t taste good enough.
This is going to be my new meme.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
It’s just an animal, people.
You can grow an attachement to anything but it’s just a mutt, at the end of the day.
Don’t really see the big deal. A dog died, boohoo, so tragic.
The guy was gonna get ripped to shreds. Can you fault him?[/quote]
Since you posted a photo of a dog roast being plated up to illustrate your point, we can assume then that the thought of eating a dog sounds appetizing to you (I’m not asking you if you’d eat one as a last-ditch alternative to starvation, but if you would regularly choose to eat one over say, a steak or chicken and enjoy it)?
You’re not as “de-sensitized” to fluffy creatures as you think you are.[/quote]
Irrelevant comparison. I’ve never tried dog, so of course I would choose a known quantity like steak, which is delicious. Now if you were to ask me if I would try dog, or cat, or horse, or any animal for the sake of trying it, I would say, “absolutely”.[/quote]
It’s not an irrelevant comparison. You didn’t make the point or post the pic. And stop trying to find argumentative loopholes. The question wasn’t “would you try roast dog if I hired a Michelin star chef to cook it and offer it to you for the sake of novelty?”. It was “are you so emotionally removed from domestic animals that you’d eat and enjoy dog flesh on a regular basis and of your own volition?”.
Clearly the answer for both of you “independent thinkers” is no, because you’d be eating it already. Amateur. [/quote]
Wow. You call me an amateur, and yet you’ve built a fine strawman yourself. I said nothing about requiring a professional chef to eat a dog. The reason I don’t eat dog is because it’s not available to me. However, if there was a local dog-slaughtering shop that provided dog at a reasonable price, I’d eat it all day long. The reason I eat a lot of cows, chickens and pigs is because I, like most everyone on this site, do not kill the animals I eat. Why is it normal for someone to raise a pig, an animal as intelligent or even moreso than a dog, only to kill and eat it? Because dogs have endeared themselves to our species by luck of the draw; their social structure is sufficiently similar to ours so as to allow them to slip effortlessly into our homes, nothing more. And quit trying to act so high and mighty because you’re in the majority. Go to a third world country and you would be considered a pariah for holding dogs in such high esteem.
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
This is going to be my new meme.[/quote]
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[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
I don’t think I am, [/quote]
Obviously you do…at least you think you’re detached enough to scoff at people who might mourn the death of the dog (“boo-hoo”?) Reality check: you’re not. You just think that cold detachment to anything but science is the mark of a scientific mind.
You’re like a friend of mine. He so desperately wanted to be seen as a rocker that he crapped on every other genre of music, because he thought that was the “rock thing” to do (guy was a total nerd who never listened to music before he went to uni). Another buddy of mine gave him a free ticket to a classical concert. Buddy #1 went because it was free, but he loved it, even though he ‘hated’ classical.
Not only did the experience change his opinion, but it enriched his enjoyment of the music he already listened to. Experience and perspective: get some. [/quote]
I think you’re over estimating what my words meant. Get this “he’s trying to be cool” idea out of your mind.
[quote]roybot wrote:[quote] and I have a problem with mindless cruelty to any living thing.
[/quote] Well then, why post a pic of the Korean equivalent of a hot dog? You didn’t answer my question. If you found the killing, cooking and consuming of dog flesh appealing, you would have answered without hesitation. You didn’t, so you’re not in a position to point fingers. You’re just like the rest of us mere mortals.
Oh, and check out the way these dogs are killed before you post pics of 'em to support a generally patronizing POV. You have a problem with mindless violence? I have a problem with mindless posting.
I didn’t find the photo offensive, but don’t be such a hypocrite to imply that you abhor animal cruelty when you have no clue as to how they were disposed of…would you approve of drowning a cow?[/quote]
Mindless cruelty is drowning a cow for fun. Killing a dog to eat it is not ‘mindless cruelty’. I have no problem with how chickens and cows are killed. Why would I have a problem with the way the dogs are killed? It was basically a disclaimer. I don’t adore violence but it is a necessity at times.
[quote]roybot wrote:[quote]
Regardless, the man is attacked by a a ferocious dog. You really expect him to stand there and watch as the flesh is stripped from his bone?[/quote]
Spare me the histrionics. The dog has been accused of trying to kill the robber several times in this thread. When the was the last time you saw televised footage of a police dog killing a suspect, let alone using excessive force? Those, unfortunately, are exclusively human traits…
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That does not mean the man will not suffer. Excessive force?
It’s a dog - taught to bite and not let go.
You are over analyzing everything here and your horse is very tall
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Right. I admit that I’ve been over estimating your words and giving you too much credit. Now that you’ve shown me that you’re just some jumped up punk who thinks that they can paraphrase their way to winning an argument, I see the error of my ways. My horse is tall? Let me take a WWE drop kick of a guess at the occupation you wouldn’t disclose… you’re a student, right?.
I’m over analyzing points that you insist on exaggerating for effect? L.M.F.A.O.
P.S. It hasn’t escaped my attention that you only had the cajones to respond to my post because Heavytriple tried to back you up.
ROFL at your attempt to implicate police dogs as corrupt. Canine brutality? Let’s call in tapeworm internal affairs.
Your response to the “drowning of cows” comment shows how oblivious you are. ‘Edible’ dogs in Korea are routinely killed by drowning them. It’s not done for fun. But that didn’t stop you posting a pic and making up an argument afterwards…
P.P.S Have either of you smartasses eaten dog yet? [/quote]
Nope. Unfortunately there’s still no dog at the local supermarket.
lol
…something’s burning…
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Nope. Unfortunately there’s still no dog at the local supermarket.[/quote]
My mom’s tried dog. She said she got to pick it from the kennel (this is in China). As a tough meat, it’s usually stewed. I would love to try dog, just as I’d like to try every other animal.
I would only eat human if forced to though.
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Nope. Unfortunately there’s still no dog at the local supermarket.[/quote]
My mom’s tried dog. She said she got to pick it from the kennel (this is in China). As a tough meat, it’s usually stewed. I would love to try dog, just as I’d like to try every other animal.
I would only eat human if forced to though.[/quote]
Now is it a red meat or something else? Herc? So it’s like pork?
^^good one 
Edit–referring to Steely’s post.
I’m not reading these posts b/c I’m sure more than a few will piss me off and get me off the point I wish to make. First, I think this kid was reacting like anyone would react to being attacked by an angry dog; “get the fuck off me”. I understand the K9 “officer” is a member of LEO, but that “member” of LEO is not a thinking member of LEO. That dog is programmed to seek out and attack an alleged criminal. There is no warning, no put your hands up, no halt, nothing except an attack which is a bite.
I think a bite in and of itself is probably more times than not excessive force. I think it’s a perfectly natural reaction to want to get a dog off you and I don’t believe for one minute this kid (a jerkoff no doubt) was trying to kill this dog - he was quite naturally trying to get this dog to stop biting him. But leave it to the good folks of our law enforcement community to charge the kid with the highest crime they can, with the idea to throw it against the wall and see if it sticks. Never mind his intent, never mind the facts, never mind that he was being bitten and attacked and reacted quite naturally. To hell with common sense, an “officer” has fallen. Bullshit.
I certainly appreciate working dogs. I probably appreciate them more than anyone else here because working dogs are my life and I view them to be special. They are the best of the best at their “vocation” whether that vocation be hunting or guarding and other jobs in between. A dog with a job that does it well, is an exception and is special. That said, they are dogs and the police department is using that dog as a “tool” to get a job done, the same way a hunter uses a dog to “hunt”.
In both instances, you place that dog’s life in peril and he is no longer a “pet” or a part of your family, he is most definitely a means to an end. You wouldn’t enlist your child to go apprehend criminals or do bomb sniffing, so let’s dispense with the illusion of the K9 dog as a member of your family. I don’t care if they go home at night with the officer or not.
This kid is a jerkoff. He’s been in trouble before. He had a promising football career and fucked that up. This is his second robbery charge. He deserves to be charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for his robbery, fleeing, and resisting arrest. He does not deserve the enhanced charge for “cruelty to animals” and otherwise causing the death of this police dog…a dog that was most assuredly biting his ass, and biting it well.
I really think this country needs to review the manner in which it uses police dogs. Personally, I think they should be on lead in all but the most extreme instances. Because when you set one loose, it will usually result in an attack and I think that can be excessive.
You do NOT want to be bitten by an attack trained canine. Trust me. It would not be pleasant. Getting bitten should not be part of being arrested. I understand the kid ran, but you can run from a human officer and when you’re caught, part of the apprehension is not getting your ass kicked if you submit (legally that is; we know in practice a roughing up may ensue, but it’s illegal).
Imagine being attacked by a dog, being bitten, and it is painful, and it’s handler is nowhere in site. What would your reaction be? To lay down and submit while the dog continued to bite you? Or, would you “resist” in an act of self-preservation.
Before anyone jumps in and tells me about these magical dogs that will bark unless you try to run, trust me, it don’t work like that in the field. These dogs are biting people. If you’re going to let a dog bite someone, there should be a HUMAN OFFICER at the end of the lead to control the dog. This kid robbed a chinese take out place. He didn’t murder someone. I’m not so sure we needed to “loose the hounds of hell” upon he and his accomplice.
[quote]angus_beef wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
People that don’t like dogs are soulless cocksuckers.[/quote]
Along with people that kill cattle for food and hunt dear for sport. These meat eating, dear hunting cock suckers ![/quote]
'cause those are all the same thing… Clearly we’re dealing with a mental giant.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
People that don’t like dogs are soulless cocksuckers.[/quote]
This has nothing to do with not liking dogs, this is about a man killing a dog that was going to attack/attack him. And, the town being outraged because a man was protecting himself.[/quote]
This wasn’t directed at the article. It was directed at the people here acting like a dogs life isn’t worth a shit. How did you not get that?
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]angus_beef wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
People that don’t like dogs are soulless cocksuckers.[/quote]
Along with people that kill cattle for food and hunt dear for sport. These meat eating, dear hunting cock suckers ![/quote]
'cause those are all the same thing… Clearly we’re dealing with a mental giant.[/quote]
Let’s pump the brakes for a second…I assumed that post was a typical T-Nation sarcastic, “fuck everyone with a different opinion than me” post, but apparently you were serious? I don’t like dogs, but there are a lot of things I don’t like. It doesn’t mean I think their life is worthless, either. I view a dog in the same light as nearly every other animal. In fact, if you view a dog as having more worth than, say, a turtle, I think you are a soulless cocksucker.
