Just Started TRT

Just a bump to see if anyone had thoughts on those labs and how treatment/symptoms have gone.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Labs run 11/10[/quote]

Is this 10 November 2011, or November 2010? I assume the former.

If this is while you are on thyroid meds, you need more thyroid meds! Increase dosage until symptoms improve. I would increase with T3 if that is a possibility since its easier to tweak than T4 (though requires twice a day dosing for best effect). Once your symptoms abate, then go get some bloodwork done to figure out the levels. You can then switch over to T4 only (with goal of attaining same blood profile) or stay on your same protocol.

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The total test that was at my lowest between shots so maybe not that bad. [/quote]

Agreed

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Estradiol is too high so i am self medicating with 0.5mg of anastrazole (waiting for it to come).[/quote]

Agreed. Take it and retest 4-6 weeks later. You know the goal.

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The free t3 is in the same spot as it has been since i started treatment of T4 only a year ago. Now i am on t3/t4 combo wrote out how much in earlier post. [/quote]

Already discussed. This needs to be worked on.

So a bad update. I guess i failed an acth stim test. Doctor perscribed 20mg mornign and 10mg at afternoon.

This sucks anybody have any ideas on things to do?? I realy dont want to be on yet another pill for life. Will i be able to come off of this?

ALso i talked to the nurse doctor is always to busy so she knew no specifics. Any help would be great

VT thanks for that comments and i agree with everythign you said.

looking at 24hr saliva tests and trying to find an affordable one but not a crappy one

http://www.supplementclinic.com/Cortisol_Curve_Panel_by_Labrix_p/1065c.htm

does that look ok or does anyone have suggestions that have done it?

is that 20mg HC am and 10mg HC pm?

you may want to build up slowly, and not start the full amount all at once. and 20mg will supress your system, but it looks like your acth is already supressed. also be careful about missing doses at that level, that is a replacement dose, and your system might take some time before it can pick up the slack.

2.3 Free T3 is horrible. ideal is 3.4 - 3.9 I think.

I am on compounded Sustained Release HydroCortisone. in 5mg capsules, so I can vary my dosing as needed. and it makes it easier increasing and decreasing meds. I was on standard Cortef, but it was too fast acting, and fast clearing from my system, and I kept crashing.

[quote]PureChance wrote:
is that 20mg HC am and 10mg HC pm?

you may want to build up slowly, and not start the full amount all at once. and 20mg will supress your system, but it looks like your acth is already supressed. also be careful about missing doses at that level, that is a replacement dose, and your system might take some time before it can pick up the slack.

2.3 Free T3 is horrible. ideal is 3.4 - 3.9 I think.

I am on compounded Sustained Release HydroCortisone. in 5mg capsules, so I can vary my dosing as needed. and it makes it easier increasing and decreasing meds. I was on standard Cortef, but it was too fast acting, and fast clearing from my system, and I kept crashing.[/quote]

Yes sorry i will edit in the mg.

I agree the T3 is still terrible but i think now with the T3/T4 combo that will start coming up but i still think i dont really convert T4 well or much at all so i think T3 will have to be higher.

I think the lack of T3 really stressed my adrenals. Do you think that with this HC treatment that i will be able to come off it once my adrenals are “rested”? Also i think once the T3 gets straightened out that there will be less stress on the adrenals.

How did you fail the ACTH Stim test? Did you have any response at all to it? Or was it just very mild?

I can’t remember and there are 5 pages here to comb through, but did you ever get your pituitary checked out with MRI? You are hypgonodal, hypoadrenal, and hypothyroid, right? It would make sense to take a step back and look further up the chain for the cause of the issues…

Yep that was the firs tthing that was checked and MRI was clean. They think its an auto immune attack that is hitting everything. They are all linked supposedly to auto immune conditions and my family on my dads side a couple on my moms side have auto immune issues.

Nurse didnt know a thing. And doc was too busy and wont talk on the phone. SO i have to wait to find out what failing actually mean.s

VT if you see this mind emailing me? (its in my hub)

For anyone who backloads there shots into slin pins…how many do you backload at once and how long and how do you store them?

There is no need to backload as the fill times are relatively minimal. IMO, backloading is more trouble than its worth (hard to get the dosage right, increase in infection risk, accidental spillage and losing your T). Its so simple just to put the needle into the vial before hopping in the shower and suspending it in a toothrbush holder or something, that I don’t see why you wouldn’t do this.

But if you insist on doing it for whatever reason–you can load as many as you want and store them. They’re not going to degrade.

I wasnt thinking about degredation more just sterility. In stead of back loading could i just then load a bunch of slin pins at night when i am bored and store them? Ie when i am watching a show and have nothign else to do.

I am finally ordering some 28 gauge 1/2 inchers. These should be perfect for quads and less marks/mess thn even the 25 inchers i have. You think the 28 will work for delt as well?

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
In stead of back loading could i just then load a bunch of slin pins at night when i am bored and store them? Ie when i am watching a show and have nothign else to do.[/quote]

This is what I would do. I keep telling myself I’m going to load up a bunch, but always forget. I reuse my pins for at least two injections anyway, so probably best just to do it before hopping in the shower for me.

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I am finally ordering some 28 gauge 1/2 inchers. These should be perfect for quads and less marks/mess thn even the 25 inchers i have. You think the 28 will work for delt as well?[/quote]

As lean as you are, these would be perfect for delts. I’m not nearly as lean and can get my delts, my tear drop, and about 3/4 the way up my outer quads with no issues. My legs are significantly leaner though, so this might not work for everyone. Delts are definitely no problem though.

Thanks VT i think i might do that. Just draw up a bunch of syringes so i dont have to go throught that once i get my smaller needles.

Also thanks for the advice on the shot locations. That will give my poor lateralis a bit of a break even though there wont be a whole lot of damage with such a small needle

VT how do you reuse your syringes without contamination?

I just swipe the needle with an alcohol swab afterwards. Personally, I think the whole risk of contamination thing is a bit overblown.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I just swipe the needle with an alcohol swab afterwards. Personally, I think the whole risk of contamination thing is a bit overblown.[/quote]

Then just cap it and keep it for the next injection later in the week?

Yup

Daman and the needle doesnt dull at all by the 3rd use? I am talking drawing up first injection and then second injection

I’ve never taken laser measurements to compare the sharpness, but it seems to work. Haven’t jabbed myself yet without it going in lol

I usually use it between 2-4 times.

I sent you an email yesterday. Did you get it?