Just Started TRT

Like the fact you measured. lol

I should of replied last night, you didnt get it?

So this is hypothesis that i am working on at the moment…I started having terrible sleep around the same time my hormones went to crap. It has been shown that at least 2 of my pituitary controlled hormones are not working the way they should. From reading GH helps support sleep. GH is controled by the pituitary. I have experimented with GHRP 2 for about a month now. 100mcg pre bed has taken my sleep from the worst back to great. On a scale of 1-10 it was in the 3s and 4s. With GHRP 2 it is consistently an 8. I feel well rested and actually like i slept in the mornig. I believe this is because i my pituitary having the problems it does was not secreting GH the way it should. WIth the addition of GHRP it now is…THoughts? And how could i go about proving this? The doc ruled out GH problems because my IGF-1 levels are normal. Is there any way to have abnormal GH release at night and still have normal IGF1 levels? Especially if training with weights very hard 6 days a week (if that has any effect on IGF1 levels.

Insulin needles run less than a quarter a piece. I can’t see a reason to reuse them. Agreed, you would most likely be fine but since Test isn’t refrigerated and you are carrying bacteria from your skin to the inside of the vial and it’s living in/on the used needle… anyway, I spend the quarter.

As to your problems, I’m in my early 30’s and have been dealing with many of your problems since I was a little older than you, or I should say I was finally diagnosed then. I’ll be following your thread. Good luck man.

Yeah i am not reusing them only for GHRP2. Which has completely revolutionized my sleep. Amazing.

New dosage of test now. 150mg/week. Will see how this changes my labs. I havent started this dose yet as my perscriptions come mail order. Also T3 has been bumped up.

Labs showed T3 at the very low end of normal and T4 that was low. That is on a dose of 12.5mcg T3 and 100mcg T4 a day. I really do not think my body does anything with converting T4. This is the highest my T3 levels have been but still not high at all hopefully new dose helps.

Glad to have you moto any suggestions or if you have ?'s feel free to fire away

if your body is not converting T4 properly, then any extra T4 you take will convert to Reverse T3 (which will block your T3). have you ever tested your RT3 levels to confirm?

I have not. I am going to get it on my next round of labs

Interesting thing the doc brought up:my conditions are mmost likely am auto iimmune attack. The thyroid was supported by ab test. He stated that the next target will be adrenals. Anyone heard of this?

Is it possible with Hashis for the Ab’s to attack either of the thyroid hormones?

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Is it possible with Hashis for the Ab’s to attack either of the thyroid hormones? [/quote]

huh?

Hashimotots disease I am sure you know it is an autoimmune disease where the thyroid is attacked by the body’s own Antibodies (ABs). I was wondering if its possible that the ABs will attack the thyroid hormones themselves? This would mean as you take in the exogneous replacement hormone the ABs would attack and disable some of them.

Just wondering i havent found anything in my searching. I have hashi’s and i am pretty sure my thyroid is non functional now. I have no swings in thryroid levels or symptoms and normally people with Hashi’s have swings while the thyroid is destroyed but once its gone you are just hypo

Oh no, I dont think it works like that…I think the antibodies are produced by your body due to the disease in the thyroid itself, not its output…but I honestly dont know that for sure

Consider yourself lucky you haven’t gotten the swings yet…some people seem lucky in that regard.

I dont think i will get them. I am actually wondering if through my uppper teens i didnt experience them but didnt know what they were. Of course my memory is not clear enough to really know.

I will have to keep reading but i thought the AB’s were just because the bodys AB production was not functioning correctly and made ABs that attack the thyroid. I did not think there was actually a problem with the thyroid that the body was specifically attacking. That could be my misunderstanding. ALso the only reason i suggested the possibility of ABs attacking the hormones as well is because the body is capable of making ABs that attack anything if it thinks its foreign. Someone with Hashi’s has an immune system hat is not functioning properly (ABs attacking self, the thyroid) so why not make some ABs to attack somthing else related to the thyroid. (But like you said i have seen no evidence of this just a thoguht)

Thanks for stopping by as always VT

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How did this play out?