Just Started GHRP-6

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Sorry, no magic GHRP-6 PCT here. I have a descent idea of how the peptide works and it seems that a gradual taper to 0 followed by an AAS cycle would be one way, just my .02.

On a side note, some have mentioned GHRP-6 as being a kind of PCT for HGH or IGF use. Currently I am using MGF as my IGF PCT, but what do you think of using both MGF and GHRP-6 as PCT for HGH or IGF? My reason for asking is because I really don’t expect any weight gain from MGF however GHRP-6 offers the possibility of continued weight and strength gains.

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[quote]arthursaxon wrote:
Looks like you may be in uncharted territory here, Sota. If the high carbs are causing lethargy, cramps, etc., maybe just backing off a bit until you find a “sweet spot” where you’re eating enough to make gains but your energy levels are back up.

With the absence of any voices of experience to chime in, you may have to just pioneer your way through it with the old trial and error approach. Playing with a few different nutritional approaches will also give you (and us) some good data for future runs with GHRP-6.

Wish I could be of some more help, but I’m sure you’ll figure out what works. Keep us posted![/quote]

Thanks Arth, ya I defidently agree with your idea to finding my comfort zone I have always noticed that my body reacts very irrational when it comes to carbs.

For Ghrp I guess overall ive done everything correctly based on what little info is out there on this peptide,my base source came from the A Roberts experience and dosing patterns,opinions etc. primarily from you guys and my part in this is obviously my cycle experience/trial and error.

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[quote]2thepain wrote:
Sorry, no magic GHRP-6 PCT here. I have a descent idea of how the peptide works and it seems that a gradual taper to 0 followed by an AAS cycle would be one way, just my .02.

On a side note, some have mentioned GHRP-6 as being a kind of PCT for HGH or IGF use. Currently I am using MGF as my IGF PCT, but what do you think of using both MGF and GHRP-6 as PCT for HGH or IGF? My reason for asking is because I really don’t expect any weight gain from MGF however GHRP-6 offers the possibility of continued weight and strength gains.[/quote]
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Thanks for the input bro,Your status was very similar to mine. I did Igf as a front load and then mgf for pct, I was originally going to start the ghrp the day i started mgf but my kit was delayed literally to my last shot of mgf so obviously that forced me to start afterwards.

truthfully i can see it working more like an mgf pct if you were to have started both at the same time the mgf starts working by week 1 then the ghrp would be in full effect by week 2-3 and you could continue off with ghrp-6.

Ive been reading your threads lately and read both your short cycle and your long cycle info, considering that i did this whole cycle on aas pct and received exceptional gains, in my opinion you should defidently consider running this through atleast majority of your upcoming cycle. what are your thoughts on that?for how cheap this peptide really is it could be very benefical to you… just a thought.

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[quote]sota123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Sorry, no magic GHRP-6 PCT here. I have a descent idea of how the peptide works and it seems that a gradual taper to 0 followed by an AAS cycle would be one way, just my .02.

On a side note, some have mentioned GHRP-6 as being a kind of PCT for HGH or IGF use. Currently I am using MGF as my IGF PCT, but what do you think of using both MGF and GHRP-6 as PCT for HGH or IGF? My reason for asking is because I really don’t expect any weight gain from MGF however GHRP-6 offers the possibility of continued weight and strength gains.
o
Thanks for the input bro,Your status was very similar to mine. I did Igf as a front load and then mgf for pct, I was originally going to start the ghrp the day i started mgf but my kit was delayed literally to my last shot of mgf so obviously that forced me to start afterwards.

truthfully i can see it working more like an mgf pct if you were to have started both at the same time the mgf starts working by week 1 then the ghrp would be in full effect by week 2-3 and you could continue off with ghrp-6.

Ive been reading your threads lately and read both your short cycle and your long cycle info, considering that i did this whole cycle on aas pct and received exceptional gains, in my opinion you should defidently consider running this through atleast majority of your upcoming cycle. what are your thoughts on that?for how cheap this peptide really is it could be very benefical to you… just a thought.

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Even though you ran the GHRP-6 mostly after your AAS cycle ended you think that it would be more beneficial to run during cycle? Is the increased hunger a large part of your thinking?

I was kinda thinking using it after my IGF use in PCT. Probably running it for at least 2 months at the same dosages you ran. Or maybe running the IGF with my slin and using the GHRP for the duration of the test taper.

Everyone’s thoughts are welcome. Sorry for temporary thread highjack Sota. You have and continue to be very helpful.

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[quote]2thepain wrote:
sota123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
Sorry, no magic GHRP-6 PCT here. I have a descent idea of how the peptide works and it seems that a gradual taper to 0 followed by an AAS cycle would be one way, just my .02.

On a side note, some have mentioned GHRP-6 as being a kind of PCT for HGH or IGF use. Currently I am using MGF as my IGF PCT, but what do you think of using both MGF and GHRP-6 as PCT for HGH or IGF? My reason for asking is because I really don’t expect any weight gain from MGF however GHRP-6 offers the possibility of continued weight and strength gains.
o
Thanks for the input bro,Your status was very similar to mine. I did Igf as a front load and then mgf for pct, I was originally going to start the ghrp the day i started mgf but my kit was delayed literally to my last shot of mgf so obviously that forced me to start afterwards.

truthfully i can see it working more like an mgf pct if you were to have started both at the same time the mgf starts working by week 1 then the ghrp would be in full effect by week 2-3 and you could continue off with ghrp-6.

Ive been reading your threads lately and read both your short cycle and your long cycle info, considering that i did this whole cycle on aas pct and received exceptional gains, in my opinion you should defidently consider running this through atleast majority of your upcoming cycle. what are your thoughts on that?for how cheap this peptide really is it could be very benefical to you… just a thought.

Even though you ran the GHRP-6 mostly after your AAS cycle ended you think that it would be more beneficial to run during cycle? Is the increased hunger a large part of your thinking?

I was kinda thinking using it after my IGF use in PCT. Probably running it for at least 2 months at the same dosages you ran. Or maybe running the IGF with my slin and using the GHRP for the duration of the test taper.

Everyone’s thoughts are welcome. Sorry for temporary thread highjack Sota. You have and continue to be very helpful.
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Yeah thats what I was trying to tell you before. I see the increased appetite as a HUGE advantage to any cycle,also the crazy pumps that i received seems to really increase my muscle endurance and strength,short bursts seemed to go through the roof, vascularity was also a VERY noticable effect.2 months will defidently serve you well.although im not really sure what could happen if it was ran with slin…?also,you have a PM.

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Did you have any noticeable change in effect when you lowered the dosage from 400mcg to 300mcg daily? I am sitting around 230 right now and am trying to decide what range of dosage I will take so I dont have to reorder later. If you decide to taper off it will be interesting to get your perception of effectiveness at different lower doses.

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[quote]dean12345 wrote:
Did you have any noticeable change in effect when you lowered the dosage from 400mcg to 300mcg daily? I am sitting around 230 right now and am trying to decide what range of dosage I will take so I dont have to reorder later. If you decide to taper off it will be interesting to get your perception of effectiveness at different lower doses.[/quote]

I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily b/c i was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occuring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, i have a very big appetite to begin with and i started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 i would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and i got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days i guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?

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I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily because I was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occurring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, I have a very big appetite to begin with and I started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 I would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and I got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days I guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?
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I wandered how sensitive the user would be to a 100mcg or so change in dosage, seeing as AR claimed to have positive effects even at 100mcg. I’m going to run it for the first time here in the next month or so, but I will be running it in cycle so it will be a little harder to gauge the extent of its results. I have been at this weight about a year and a half. I hit an all time high naturally at 237 at around 20-21% bf, lost about ten lbs then did my first cycle and hit 242. Since then have lost more weight to where I am now. I am planning another bulker and want to throw in some peptides for both in and post cycle this time.

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[quote]dean12345 wrote:

I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily because I was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occurring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, I have a very big appetite to begin with and I started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 I would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and I got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days I guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?

I wandered how sensitive the user would be to a 100mcg or so change in dosage, seeing as AR claimed to have positive effects even at 100mcg. I’m going to run it for the first time here in the next month or so, but I will be running it in cycle so it will be a little harder to gauge the extent of its results. I have been at this weight about a year and a half. I hit an all time high naturally at 237 at around 20-21% bf, lost about ten lbs then did my first cycle and hit 242. Since then have lost more weight to where I am now. I am planning another bulker and want to throw in some peptides for both in and post cycle this time.[/quote]

Yes, I remember AR mentioning his use and a friends use at 100mcg and experiencing “joint relief”… but at any dose even higher than that you would expect the same results at a certain extent,truthfully i did not see this result through my cycle, but i guess it really depends on the individuals sensitivey to this peptide. I would assume that your fairly new to the usage of peptides, correct? If so, not trying to get off topic but igf( especially for first time use) is absolutely amazing.I frontloaded my previous cycle w/ igf then pct w/mgf/ghrp, I truthfully believe that the increase of vascularity and muscle roundness that i have been experiencing was all the work of igf, people dont realize that it works during the use but the true benefity/effects dont actually come untill about 2 months or so,where the new muscle cells have reached maturity.Just thought id throw that in. So what exactly is your current weight?

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To avoid the dizzy/lethargy/headache feelings would it wise to start at lets sya 100mcg and bump it 25mcg everyday until 300mcg is reached? Or do you think that 100mcg will still have an adverse effect.

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[quote]2thepain wrote:
To avoid the dizzy/lethargy/headache feelings would it wise to start at lets sya 100mcg and bump it 25mcg everyday until 300mcg is reached? Or do you think that 100mcg will still have an adverse effect.[/quote]

100-150 mcg would probally be a good range to start. Yes, taper up by 25mcg ed untill you reach your desired dose.I have yet to go down to 100mcg so im just really not sure what would be the effects on running 100mcg steady would be like.

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[quote]sota123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
To avoid the dizzy/lethargy/headache feelings would it wise to start at lets sya 100mcg and bump it 25mcg everyday until 300mcg is reached? Or do you think that 100mcg will still have an adverse effect.

100-150 mcg would probally be a good range to start. Yes, taper up by 25mcg ed untill you reach your desired dose.I have yet to go down to 100mcg so im just really not sure what would be the effects on running 100mcg steady would be like.
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Please keep this thread going as you taper off and decide your next step as far as PCT or whatever you have planned.

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Hey Sota,
At what dosage and for how long did you run your MGF prior to the GHRP-6?

Art

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[quote]arthursaxon wrote:
Hey Sota,
At what dosage and for how long did you run your MGF prior to the GHRP-6?

Art[/quote]

Hey art, I ran mgf for 4 weeks, 100mcg M,T,W,TR,F. PWO, IM primarily in small muscle groups.
I began GHRP-6 literally the day after.

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[quote]sota123 wrote:
dean12345 wrote:

I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily because I was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occurring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, I have a very big appetite to begin with and I started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 I would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and I got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days I guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?

I wandered how sensitive the user would be to a 100mcg or so change in dosage, seeing as AR claimed to have positive effects even at 100mcg. I’m going to run it for the first time here in the next month or so, but I will be running it in cycle so it will be a little harder to gauge the extent of its results. I have been at this weight about a year and a half. I hit an all time high naturally at 237 at around 20-21% bf, lost about ten lbs then did my first cycle and hit 242. Since then have lost more weight to where I am now. I am planning another bulker and want to throw in some peptides for both in and post cycle this time.

Yes, I remember AR mentioning his use and a friends use at 100mcg and experiencing “joint relief”… but at any dose even higher than that you would expect the same results at a certain extent,truthfully i did not see this result through my cycle, but i guess it really depends on the individuals sensitivey to this peptide. I would assume that your fairly new to the usage of peptides, correct? If so, not trying to get off topic but igf( especially for first time use) is absolutely amazing.I frontloaded my previous cycle w/ igf then pct w/mgf/ghrp, I truthfully believe that the increase of vascularity and muscle roundness that i have been experiencing was all the work of igf, people dont realize that it works during the use but the true benefity/effects dont actually come untill about 2 months or so,where the new muscle cells have reached maturity.Just thought id throw that in. So what exactly is your current weight?

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Yeah this will be my first walk in the park. 229 this morning, 12% bf maybe. Igf was the first peptide I had considered, but I decided I would rather add it to my PCT since I will be running a very suppressive cycle, I want as effective a pct as possible. Most of the things I have read suggest igf as a better choice than mgf for pct purposes so I was curious what kind of results you had?

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[quote]dean12345 wrote:
sota123 wrote:
dean12345 wrote:

I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily because I was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occurring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, I have a very big appetite to begin with and I started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 I would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and I got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days I guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?

I wandered how sensitive the user would be to a 100mcg or so change in dosage, seeing as AR claimed to have positive effects even at 100mcg. I’m going to run it for the first time here in the next month or so, but I will be running it in cycle so it will be a little harder to gauge the extent of its results. I have been at this weight about a year and a half. I hit an all time high naturally at 237 at around 20-21% bf, lost about ten lbs then did my first cycle and hit 242. Since then have lost more weight to where I am now. I am planning another bulker and want to throw in some peptides for both in and post cycle this time.

Yes, I remember AR mentioning his use and a friends use at 100mcg and experiencing “joint relief”… but at any dose even higher than that you would expect the same results at a certain extent,truthfully i did not see this result through my cycle, but i guess it really depends on the individuals sensitivey to this peptide. I would assume that your fairly new to the usage of peptides, correct? If so, not trying to get off topic but igf( especially for first time use) is absolutely amazing.I frontloaded my previous cycle w/ igf then pct w/mgf/ghrp, I truthfully believe that the increase of vascularity and muscle roundness that i have been experiencing was all the work of igf, people dont realize that it works during the use but the true benefity/effects dont actually come untill about 2 months or so,where the new muscle cells have reached maturity.Just thought id throw that in. So what exactly is your current weight?

Yeah this will be my first walk in the park. 229 this morning, 12% bf maybe. Igf was the first peptide I had considered, but I decided I would rather add it to my PCT since I will be running a very suppressive cycle, I want as effective a pct as possible. Most of the things I have read suggest igf as a better choice than mgf for pct purposes so I was curious what kind of results you had?

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When I used the IGf I noticed a lot of site enhancment primarily in my bi`s and serattus rib area, i noticed deep veins that i had in my quads,tris and bis beginning to rise closer to my skin,pumps were crazy especially on leg and chest days and it seems to prevent any water bloat even while running d-bol 50mg ed for the frontload of my cycle. MGF seemed a somewhat milder version of igf but with more fatloss.

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[quote]sota123 wrote:
dean12345 wrote:
sota123 wrote:
dean12345 wrote:

I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily because I was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occurring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, I have a very big appetite to begin with and I started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 I would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and I got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days I guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?

I wandered how sensitive the user would be to a 100mcg or so change in dosage, seeing as AR claimed to have positive effects even at 100mcg. I’m going to run it for the first time here in the next month or so, but I will be running it in cycle so it will be a little harder to gauge the extent of its results. I have been at this weight about a year and a half. I hit an all time high naturally at 237 at around 20-21% bf, lost about ten lbs then did my first cycle and hit 242. Since then have lost more weight to where I am now. I am planning another bulker and want to throw in some peptides for both in and post cycle this time.

Yes, I remember AR mentioning his use and a friends use at 100mcg and experiencing “joint relief”… but at any dose even higher than that you would expect the same results at a certain extent,truthfully i did not see this result through my cycle, but i guess it really depends on the individuals sensitivey to this peptide. I would assume that your fairly new to the usage of peptides, correct? If so, not trying to get off topic but igf( especially for first time use) is absolutely amazing.I frontloaded my previous cycle w/ igf then pct w/mgf/ghrp, I truthfully believe that the increase of vascularity and muscle roundness that i have been experiencing was all the work of igf, people dont realize that it works during the use but the true benefity/effects dont actually come untill about 2 months or so,where the new muscle cells have reached maturity.Just thought id throw that in. So what exactly is your current weight?

Yeah this will be my first walk in the park. 229 this morning, 12% bf maybe. Igf was the first peptide I had considered, but I decided I would rather add it to my PCT since I will be running a very suppressive cycle, I want as effective a pct as possible. Most of the things I have read suggest igf as a better choice than mgf for pct purposes so I was curious what kind of results you had?

When I used the IGf I noticed a lot of site enhancment primarily in my bi`s and serattus rib area, i noticed deep veins that i had in my quads,tris and bis beginning to rise closer to my skin,pumps were crazy especially on leg and chest days and it seems to prevent any water bloat even while running d-bol 50mg ed for the frontload of my cycle. MGF seemed a somewhat milder version of igf but with more fatloss.

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Just when I think I have a plan, I’m back to the drawing boards again. Keep up this thread, its been very helpful brother. I’ve got a couple more ideas I wanna bounce off you and a couple other guys, but that will have to wait till I get back from mexico baby!!

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[quote]dean12345 wrote:
sota123 wrote:
dean12345 wrote:
sota123 wrote:
dean12345 wrote:

I lowered the dose to 300mcg primarily because I was worried about the nose bleeds that i had occurring and also the appetite increase was literally to much for me at the time, I have a very big appetite to begin with and I started to notice that it was leading me to binge on junk food more than healthy foods.I defidently find 300 to be a comfort zone for me, but if you were to try to bump up all the way to 400 I would advise tapering up by 25-30mcg more everyday. when i bumped from 200 to 400 i didnot think to do this, and I got horrible dizzyness,lethargy,headaches and shakes/trembles for a few days I guess it took my body sometime to adjust to that increase.
How long have you been at 230? what have you noticed?

I wandered how sensitive the user would be to a 100mcg or so change in dosage, seeing as AR claimed to have positive effects even at 100mcg. I’m going to run it for the first time here in the next month or so, but I will be running it in cycle so it will be a little harder to gauge the extent of its results. I have been at this weight about a year and a half. I hit an all time high naturally at 237 at around 20-21% bf, lost about ten lbs then did my first cycle and hit 242. Since then have lost more weight to where I am now. I am planning another bulker and want to throw in some peptides for both in and post cycle this time.

Yes, I remember AR mentioning his use and a friends use at 100mcg and experiencing “joint relief”… but at any dose even higher than that you would expect the same results at a certain extent,truthfully i did not see this result through my cycle, but i guess it really depends on the individuals sensitivey to this peptide. I would assume that your fairly new to the usage of peptides, correct? If so, not trying to get off topic but igf( especially for first time use) is absolutely amazing.I frontloaded my previous cycle w/ igf then pct w/mgf/ghrp, I truthfully believe that the increase of vascularity and muscle roundness that i have been experiencing was all the work of igf, people dont realize that it works during the use but the true benefity/effects dont actually come untill about 2 months or so,where the new muscle cells have reached maturity.Just thought id throw that in. So what exactly is your current weight?

Yeah this will be my first walk in the park. 229 this morning, 12% bf maybe. Igf was the first peptide I had considered, but I decided I would rather add it to my PCT since I will be running a very suppressive cycle, I want as effective a pct as possible. Most of the things I have read suggest igf as a better choice than mgf for pct purposes so I was curious what kind of results you had?

When I used the IGf I noticed a lot of site enhancment primarily in my bi`s and serattus rib area, i noticed deep veins that i had in my quads,tris and bis beginning to rise closer to my skin,pumps were crazy especially on leg and chest days and it seems to prevent any water bloat even while running d-bol 50mg ed for the frontload of my cycle. MGF seemed a somewhat milder version of igf but with more fatloss.

Just when I think I have a plan, I’m back to the drawing boards again. Keep up this thread, its been very helpful brother. I’ve got a couple more ideas I wanna bounce off you and a couple other guys, but that will have to wait till I get back from mexico baby!![/quote]

Will do. Have a blast in mexico bro!

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I saw on another board that people were shooting 2x a day with GHRP-6 (100mcg x 2). They said it was to take advantage of the 10 fold increase in growth hormone secretion from the GHRP-6, they made no mention of the appetite increase. Have you guys heard of this dosing protocol before?

I was thinking, what if I were to shoot 100mcg in the morning, and then another 200mcg PWO. Do you think the 200mcg will be enough to trigger an increase in hunger? Also is the 100mcg in the morning just a waste of time? At this point in my cycle I am using no IGF/HGH to speak of, so maybe the increase in GH secretion could be beneficial.

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[quote]2thepain wrote:
I saw on another board that people were shooting 2x a day with GHRP-6 (100mcg x 2). They said it was to take advantage of the 10 fold increase in growth hormone secretion from the GHRP-6, they made no mention of the appetite increase. Have you guys heard of this dosing protocol before?

I was thinking, what if I were to shoot 100mcg in the morning, and then another 200mcg PWO. Do you think the 200mcg will be enough to trigger an increase in hunger? Also is the 100mcg in the morning just a waste of time? At this point in my cycle I am using no IGF/HGH to speak of, so maybe the increase in GH secretion could be beneficial.[/quote]

What would be the timing between each injection? I workout in the mornings, so my pwo shot(200mcg)is about 11-11:30 am. and then 1 1/2-2hrs before bed(100mcg)around 10PM.I feel an increase in apetite even at 100mcg but defidently a stronger increase at 200mcg.

Log update.I decided to begin my taper starting tomorrow.23 days total.1-5 250 mcg;Im not splitting the doses b/c i think since its so low i might as well have it strongest around pwo.6-8 220 mcg. 8-11 190 mcg,12-15 150 mcg, 16-18 120 mcg,18-23 100mcg.I felt that this is the best way to do it,it was reviewed on a few other forums and approved for the most part, but either way nobody is really sure…Ill take one for the team!