i jump around from forum to forum and read alot of diffrent post, some say they dont use pct, and keep the gains they made, also some say they never take anything for gyno and never get it, could under any circumstances any of this be true? i doubt they woulsd post it if it was not…
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i jump around from forum to forum and read alot of diffrent post, some say they dont use pct, and keep the gains they made, also some say they never take anything for gyno and never get it, could under any circumstances any of this be true? i doubt they woulsd post it if it was not…
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A lot of variables in play. Drugs used, dosage, duration, genetics. If your planning on running a cycle though I wouldn’t put my money on having the right genetics to blow off PCT.
What do you consider PCT?
Some people are not pre-disposed to side effects and therefore do not have to use SERMs and AI, if that is what you are referring to.
Another alternative to “conventional PCT” is what’s known as a taper that’s often run in test cycles.
All in all, there is almost always something done after the actual cycle has been run, whether it be a taper or some HCG or something along those lines…
If you could be more specific with your question, we might be able to better help you out.
A buddy of mine has never used any serms or ais during cycle and doesnt even have the slightest bit of gyno even after using 2+ grams per week at times.
Using no pct or any type of taper is just a stupid idea if you want to keep your gains.
all that i have avaible to me are nolvadex and proviron, i got the proviron on hand for gyno, but i was taking up to 10 dbols ed and 500mg sustanon a week and havnt had any issues, im in third week of sustanon done with the dbols now. when does the sustanon usally kick in?
and basicaly im asking since gyno isnt a issue maybe i do have good genetics, and is nolvadex alone sufficent for pct? thats all i have 100 nolva 10mg. I have heard some say yes and some say no.
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and basicaly im asking since gyno isnt a issue maybe i do have good genetics, and is nolvadex alone sufficent for pct? thats all i have 100 nolva 10mg. I have heard some say yes and some say no.[/quote]
The way you describe what you are doing sounds like you should probably know more about what you are doing. What is 10 dbols? How do you plan on taking the nolva for pct? When will you start and finish? What dosage? Proviron is not enough to combat gyno and if issues do arise you will need to use the nolva, using it up before your pct. What is you plan?
wait 2 weeks after last sustanon shot to take nolva, take 2ed for 50 days.
so proviron is not strong enough? i dont think i will get gyno anyways since taking 10 5mg dianabol a day for 4weeks had no issues…
You gotta learn to do your research man…
Give us some detail about exactly what you have and what you plan to do and we’ll see about helping you…
If you were taking enathate then the 2 weeks would be enough. However your taking sus. Back to the drawing board to do some more reading.
How are you taking the sus?
im enjecting 500mg every 7 days, i know it needs to be eod, but lots of people run it this way. im in my third week of cycle, going for 8 week cycle…should i taper to 250mg every 7 days the last 4 weeks? all i have is nolva 10mg 100 of those for pct. thats all i have avaible as a source for pct. i have 10 amps of test e on the way for my next cycle. and i know now i should of done test e as my first cycle.is test e much stronger than sustanon?
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im enjecting 500mg every 7 days, i know it needs to be eod, but lots of people run it this way. im in my third week of cycle, going for 8 week cycle…should i taper to 250mg every 7 days the last 4 weeks? all i have is nolva 10mg 100 of those for pct. thats all i have avaible as a source for pct. i have 10 amps of test e on the way for my next cycle. and i know now i should of done test e as my first cycle.is test e much stronger than sustanon?[/quote]
Injecting sus every 7 days is a terrible idea.
Using a taper with sus is a terrible idea.
Using 250mg a week to taper is a terrible idea.
Starting a cycle before figuring out what you are doing is a terrible idea.
An 8 week cycle of sus at the dosages you are running is not a good idea either (although in your case the sooner you finish the better).
What the hell is 10 amps of test e? How many mgs per ml? At a standard dosage of 250mgs/ml, 10 amps is NOT enough test e.
You need to do a lot more homework. What I had assumed about you based upon your questions has turned out to be absolutely true. You need to be injecting EOD. Just use the nolva for PCT as I don’t think you understand what we mean by a taper. You may be okay if you wait 3 weeks after your last injection and then take 40mgs a day for 2 weeks then 20mgs a day for 2 weeks.
I could throw a ton of things at you that other people do. However that still does not make these things right.
Taking enathate or cyp once a week is already bad enough. But taking sus that often is a big no no. Switch to EOD and your overall feeling and gains will be much better.
i get sustanon flu after every injection i hate it, i feel sick for 2days after every injection, and the injection site is really sore for 2 days also!! so im going to test e next, whats the least amount of time that can be injected?
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i get sustanon flu after every injection i hate it, i feel sick for 2days after every injection, and the injection site is really sore for 2 days also!! so im going to test e next, whats the least amount of time that can be injected?[/quote]
If a proper injection schedule isn’t for you then steroids are not for you either. Twice a week is the answer to your question, but if you are getting sick after every single injection something else seems to be wrong…