Why is it that we can’t see how hard somebody works (outside of maybe an hour in the gym), or how consistently they eat well, but are so quick to claim steroids, which we also can’t see.[/quote]
I don;t know, but you and a few others did just that right here. Unless you live with the guy and see him injecting something into himself, not one person here knows for sure what someone else is doing.
And yes, pointing at someone and crying “juicer” because they are big is fucking retarded. Why?
Because most of the people who even seem to use steroids don’t ever get all that damn developed. It will always…ALWAYS…come down to GENETICS AND HARD WORK. If you lack either of those then steroids isn’t the thing you should be focused on anyway.
I mean, does anyone here think someone like Max Charles looks like that simply because he used something? You don’t look like that unless your genetics far surpass most people’s anyway.
It is an insult the way it is used lately anyway even if the person does actually use steroids because the accusation implies THAT ALONE is why they look the way they do.
There is a reason there was/is only ONE Ron Coleman.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Unless you live with the guy and see him injecting something into himself, not one person here knows for sure what someone else is doing.
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Unless, of course, that person told you they were using. I don’t think too many people lie about being on gear when they’re actually not.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
After I show “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” to my classes we end up talking about ‘juice’. They seem to think it is pretty common. But then again, they say female genital piercing is pretty common. [/quote]
Most sedentary people think ANYONE with any muscle at all on them beyond “normal” is on steroids. I am not sure why that shocks anyone though…so your students’ response is to be expected. Considering most also think creatine is a steroid, even moreso.
I personally don’t understand the level of emotion displayed in the OP. This seems to most often come from people who are severely lacking in the size department and focus on “juice” because they think THAT is what is keeping them from their goal.
The only way this should bring up this much emotion is if the OP wants to use steroids and is pissed because he isn’t and someone else may be.
I just don’t understand the fascination with what “other people” are doing as if that somehow affects YOU.[/quote]
agreed! I’ve been accused/asked more than a handful of times if I’m on steroids (by my mom even lol) Most people just always assume its something like that because they cant contemplate actually working hard and being dedicated (or at least somewhat dedicated)
Every time anyone of my friends asks me about getting in shape I tell them the basics about eating good and lifting hard/consistentaly then the question always comes up “so what supplements should I take? What are you taking?”
Whenever I get asked if I’m on something I always say “if I was on steroids and still this size I’d want my money back” and that usually shuts them up
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Unless you live with the guy and see him injecting something into himself, not one person here knows for sure what someone else is doing.
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Unless, of course, that person told you they were using. I don’t think too many people lie about being on gear when they’re actually not.
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Your life is a whole lot easier if you just don’t assume shit. I lived in hawaii for 5years and some of the kids there could bench what I was benching as work sets. And big as all hell. But most of my training partners just did not use. MOST.
On the east coast I have guys telling me they use but don’t look the part. You can’t beat a good Work Ethic…and Genetics
Whenever I get asked if I’m on something I always say “if I was on steroids and still this size I’d want my money back” and that usually shuts them up
.greg.[/quote]
especially when they are smaller than you, i bet that gets a great reaction!
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yeah they always are. I mean im 5’11 and 210 so in no way am I huge or anything but I like to think I have a decent build and when I hit 220-225 I think i’ll be pretty set but yeah they usually get a bewildered look on their face when I say that lol Try it out some time
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Unless you live with the guy and see him injecting something into himself, not one person here knows for sure what someone else is doing.
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Unless, of course, that person told you they were using. I don’t think too many people lie about being on gear when they’re actually not.
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Your life is a whole lot easier if you just don’t assume shit. I lived in hawaii for 5years and some of the kids there could bench what I was benching as work sets. And big as all hell. But most of my training partners just did not use. MOST.
On the east coast I have guys telling me they use but don’t look the part. You can’t beat a good Work Ethic…and Genetics[/quote]
I agree, were you trying to disagree with me? Lol.
I’ve already stated I gave up caring what everyone else is doing a long time ago. I don’t need to rationalize why guys are bigger than me. Shit, there’s ALWAYS going to be someone out there bigger than me, I just do what I can which seems to work well (so far).
^ LOL ok MOFO this has happened more than once. So from now on When I agree with your statement I’m going to type “12” then rant on. Lol
Most of my shit gets cast off anyway so it gives me the freedom to say whatever the fuck I feel.
For instance I notice guys in here half my size, with maybe 2 years training time who seem to be experts on almost every Fucking subject. How can you be slightly average looking with sub par power and be such a pro on Every fucking thing. The comedy behind this keeps me going for months.
From my advanced TN reading this is all you need to be an expert on every topic:
Have a small 32" or smaller waist and a swimmer body.
Own a prowler
Hate your commercial gym
Can tell on sight who use steroids and who does not.
I can generally call pretty well when someone is on something, and what their compound of choice probably is.
Then again Ive been juicing for a while now, and tend to have some experience in that area.
Its not extremely common among the general population, among hardcore meatheads and gym rats I would still its not even 1 in 20.
Also 315*3 is nothing I would assume steroid usage over, I could do that before I touched anything.
The number of guys that have tried a prohormone for 4 weeks or so is very common however, OTC stuff made usage skyrocket, but while you could get pretty big and strong from PHs you still really had to know your shit to do so, in which case you probably would have been pretty big and strong anyways.
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ LOL ok MOFO this has happened more than once. So from now on When I agree with your statement I’m going to type “12” then rant on. Lol[/quote]
Haha, I blame my reading comprehension.
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Most of my shit gets cast off anyway so it gives me the freedom to say whatever the fuck I feel.
For instance I notice guys in here half my size, with maybe 2 years training time who seem to be experts on almost every Fucking subject. How can you be slightly average looking with sub par power and be such a pro on Every fucking thing. The comedy behind this keeps me going for months.
From my advanced TN reading this is all you need to be an expert on every topic:
Have a small 32" or smaller waist and a swimmer body.
Own a prowler
Hate your commercial gym
Can tell on sight who use steroids and who does not.
Have been to a gym for 2-3years.
You may now get your pro card. [/quote]
I only meet 1 of those criteria - how many topics can I be an expert on?1?!
[quote]four60 wrote:
^ LOL ok MOFO this has happened more than once. So from now on When I agree with your statement I’m going to type “12” then rant on. Lol[/quote]
Haha, I blame my reading comprehension.
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Most of my shit gets cast off anyway so it gives me the freedom to say whatever the fuck I feel.
For instance I notice guys in here half my size, with maybe 2 years training time who seem to be experts on almost every Fucking subject. How can you be slightly average looking with sub par power and be such a pro on Every fucking thing. The comedy behind this keeps me going for months.
From my advanced TN reading this is all you need to be an expert on every topic:
Have a small 32" or smaller waist and a swimmer body.
Own a prowler
Hate your commercial gym
Can tell on sight who use steroids and who does not.
Have been to a gym for 2-3years.
You may now get your pro card. [/quote]
I only meet 1 of those criteria - how many topics can I be an expert on?1?![/quote]
Well I have number 2 down also. I’m only an expert on Chalking up I can tell anyone and everyone how to chalk up like a pro. Everything else I’m still a student.
When im asked if on the juice I normally reply with “i wish, id be freaking huge if i was.” Then proceed to get asked questions about lifting, which i simply reply with “what are you doing in the kitchen?” Which they normally answer with their lifting routine.
On a lighter note- yea im on juice, ORANGE JUICE! Huck huck slaps knee
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
After I show “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” to my classes we end up talking about ‘juice’. They seem to think it is pretty common. But then again, they say female genital piercing is pretty common. [/quote]
Most sedentary people think ANYONE with any muscle at all on them beyond “normal” is on steroids. I am not sure why that shocks anyone though…so your students’ response is to be expected. Considering most also think creatine is a steroid, even moreso.
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That is what I thought but nope, after some discussion both with the class and with individuals, they were (mostly) talking about steroids. I had already pointed out to a kid that there is creatine in meat.
well in my gym there is 2 or 3 guys who obviously abuse steroids…theses guys do only chest/arms, are rather weak but they are huge and have pimples everywhere. They look like monkeys and they seem to think they are the shit
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
well in my gym there is 2 or 3 guys who obviously abuse steroids…theses guys do only chest/arms, are rather weak but they are huge and have pimples everywhere. They look like monkeys and they seem to think they are the shit
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
fuck I hate weak jealous motherfuckers.[/quote]
Nobody is jealous of your results Beans, you used roids for a week and got hyooge. And you’re going to die a small weak lonely person with a constant runny nose before you’re 40 cos you used da joose and eat so much protein.