Im 19 and ive used the juice about 4 times since i was about 17. Ive always used it properely with anti e’s everything. But now ive decided that I dont believe i need this shit ne more ive noticed that all I need to do is gain a bit of an appetite off the shit. Im about 5"11 and 175 off the shit and on the shit im usually about 185 so i dont even gain that much off this shit just look real big.
My main concern is have i gone and fucked myself over, is it too late now did i do some permanent damage or some shit. I sure hope not cause i really want to wait now and just try my own body to it’s fullest ability without ne juice i used to workout back in the day when i was 15 and i got jacked.
Started using that shit about when i was 17 at military school. Can ne one answer me on this one? I just finished a cycle im doing the nolvas to get the test back up with this bring my natural levels back to a normal level and will i gain all my natural shit back? Ne feed back would be greatly appreciated.
[quote]tay200 wrote:
Im 19 and ive used the juice about 4 times since i was about 17. Ive always used it properely with anti e’s everything. But now ive decided that I dont believe i need this shit ne more ive noticed that all I need to do is gain a bit of an appetite off the shit. Im about 5"11 and 175 off the shit and on the shit im usually about 185 so i dont even gain that much off this shit just look real big.
My main concern is have i gone and fucked myself over, is it too late now did i do some permanent damage or some shit. I sure hope not cause i really want to wait now and just try my own body to it’s fullest ability without ne juice i used to workout back in the day when i was 15 and i got jacked.
Started using that shit about when i was 17 at military school. Can ne one answer me on this one? I just finished a cycle im doing the nolvas to get the test back up with this bring my natural levels back to a normal level and will i gain all my natural shit back? Ne feed back would be greatly appreciated.[/quote]
You only gained 10lbs when you were on? Hardly seems worth the troubles now does it?
Also, do a search on here and you will find the reasons why you should not be “on” and what the bad side effects can be at such a young age. If you have any questions after you do that then come back and write in complete sentences and maybe some of the vets will be glad to answer some of your questions.
You’re fucked. Your body’s natural production is probably alot lower that what it was before the juice, so your gains will be minimal for the next couple of years, and nonexistant after that.
Sorry, it’s the truth. If you were smart enough to do research on proper cycles and PCT, then you would have learned(or had the chance to learn) that steroids don’t do much for teens, aside from shutting down the natural production of test.
Im taking 40 mgs of nolva for the next 10 days or so, then im gonna drop it down to 20 for about 20 or so days, Im trying to get my hands on some HCG. My one buddy seems to tell me that this will most likely get my natural test levels back to normal.
I have been reading about the effects from using steroids at young ages, and the only bigtime sideeffect associated with it seems to be premature closing of the growth plates so basically im not gonna grow any taller, not a big deal im 5"11.
To me I dont see the big deal with fucking up your natural test levels…I mean who wants to be disgustingly huge anyway? I’m 18 and say i juiced right now…I would be 5’8" at a solid cut 190lbs…i wouldnt want to be bigger than that…and I would never do another cycle…I would only lift weights for life just to maintain my 190 solid…
Eat eat eat and train hard. Try natural test building supplements if you feel that your body is lacking.
Its just too hard to say what damage you may have caused to yourself. Only time will tell. Good Luck.
See Ya
Okay, we have 2 theories going right now. 1. You’re fucked 2. It will return to normal.
First, at the age of 17-19 you should not be using gear at all. Your natural test levels will be high enough and gear will not increase that much over it. At the age of 25+ you start to decline in test levels, that is when someone who is intelligent should begin. Anything before that will probably cause problems.
As for your dilema, I feel that unless you were using extremely high dosages of gear then over time(maybe 6mths to 1 year) everything will return to normal. Prolonged usage cause the most damage and you obviously haven’t used nearly as long as I have and still don’t have problems.
My biggest suggestion for you is to take a PCT of Zinc & Tribulus. It works wonders for getting the natural test levels back up and the balls back into play. Take Zinc 3 x a day 50mg per dose for 2 wks and Tribulus 3 x day 1500-2000 mg per dose for 2 wks.
[quote]winstnfan68 wrote:
Okay, we have 2 theories going right now. 1. You’re fucked 2. It will return to normal.
First, at the age of 17-19 you should not be using gear at all. Your natural test levels will be high enough and gear will not increase that much over it. At the age of 25+ you start to decline in test levels, that is when someone who is intelligent should begin. Anything before that will probably cause problems.
As for your dilema, I feel that unless you were using extremely high dosages of gear then over time(maybe 6mths to 1 year) everything will return to normal. Prolonged usage cause the most damage and you obviously haven’t used nearly as long as I have and still don’t have problems.
My biggest suggestion for you is to take a PCT of Zinc & Tribulus. It works wonders for getting the natural test levels back up and the balls back into play. Take Zinc 3 x a day 50mg per dose for 2 wks and Tribulus 3 x day 1500-2000 mg per dose for 2 wks.
Hope this helps.[/quote]
Yeah when ive used the gear ive only used 2ccs a week and only used it for about 2 and half months at max.
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Fruit Juice and Non-Diet Sodas ? Repeat after us: fruit good, fruit juice bad. Cy “Mr. Big Britches” Willson sums it up best:
"Processed fruit juice is worthless in my opinion. Before I would?ve said to use it as a post-workout source of carbs, but with Biotest Surge, that isn’t necessary and besides, it?s less efficient. Also, with whole fruit, you get so much more: more fiber, more phytochemicals (way more), more nutrients, etc. Plus, whole fruit is more filling.
“Fruit juice is an easy way to over-consume calories and increase body fat. Now remember, I’m talking about fruit juice concentrate. The processing is what reduces the amount of these special phytochemicals and other compounds. If you’re going to consume juice, then you should make it yourself.”[/quote]
I believe others have spoken out about the worthlessness of the juice before too.
[quote]facko wrote:
To me I dont see the big deal with fucking up your natural test levels…I mean who wants to be disgustingly huge anyway? I’m 18 and say i juiced right now…I would be 5’8" at a solid cut 190lbs…i wouldnt want to be bigger than that…and I would never do another cycle…I would only lift weights for life just to maintain my 190 solid…[/quote]
How can you know exactly what you will come out from a cycle with. Hope that was hypothetical.
[quote]tay200 wrote:
Im 19 and ive used the juice about 4 times since i was about 17. Ive always used it properely with anti e’s everything. But now ive decided that I dont believe i need this shit ne more ive noticed that all I need to do is gain a bit of an appetite off the shit. Im about 5"11 and 175 off the shit and on the shit im usually about 185 so i dont even gain that much off this shit just look real big.
My main concern is have i gone and fucked myself over, is it too late now did i do some permanent damage or some shit. I sure hope not cause i really want to wait now and just try my own body to it’s fullest ability without ne juice i used to workout back in the day when i was 15 and i got jacked.
Started using that shit about when i was 17 at military school. Can ne one answer me on this one? I just finished a cycle im doing the nolvas to get the test back up with this bring my natural levels back to a normal level and will i gain all my natural shit back? Ne feed back would be greatly appreciated.[/quote]
Let’s look at it from a brighter side. You only gained 10 lbs so hopefully the stuff was fake and your gains were plain and simple placebo. Maybe you haven’t fucked yourself up after all? Could you be so lucky? After all it’s Friday the 13:th
You’re not fucked. Just stay off and learn how to train. IMO, HCG is a real shitty idea no matter what.
Here’s a big question I’m wondering why nobdoy has fuckin asked, what did you take? ALso you mentioned using an anti-e so I’m guessing you used test, did you run nolva for your pct at the end of all your cycles.
Next step, stop taking aas until you’re 4-5 years older. If you cant’ get your weight up 10 lbs between now and then QUIT! In the meantime keep at you pct with the nolva, dont’ but any fucking hcg because unless you use it at the correct dose and in conjunction with a few other compounds like Anthony Roberts and a few others reccomend you’re going to be suppressing yourself even further…dont’ do that. Get some ZMA, tribbulus, fenugreek, good creatine, bcaa’s.
Step 2 outline your diet and training for all of us. You might catch some shit you might not, but if you wanna keep making progress without depending on aas and further fucking yourself up then you should just grin and bear it. Lots of people her willing to help, we just happen to be dicks
how can you say you got huge at 15? Your best weight was 175lbs? And your 511, hardly huge. Sounds like you wasted time, money, and probably fucked yourself.
I did’nt I did juice at 15 buddy, i said i was looking huge at 15, saying that my test levels were obviously doing a good job considering i barely worked out. I STARTED JUICE AT 17.
[quote]facko wrote:
To me I dont see the big deal with fucking up your natural test levels…I mean who wants to be disgustingly huge anyway? I’m 18 and say i juiced right now…I would be 5’8" at a solid cut 190lbs…i wouldnt want to be bigger than that…and I would never do another cycle…I would only lift weights for life just to maintain my 190 solid…[/quote]
First off - there’s no way to know how much you will gain.
Secondly - the chances of you holding all your gains from a single 10-week cycle are likely slim and none. You will keep some, but you will also give some back. There are very few single cycle guys that keep it all.
Thirdly - juice is addictive as hell. I have no real data on this, but from the folks I have talked to there are very very few people that cross to the darkside that do a cycle - it’s more accurately called a first cycle.
First of all, it is true you shouldn’t use juice that young, but people telling you you’re fucked is rediculous.
Back in the early '80s every high school football player I knew was on shit. I did the shit for 3 years, I actually got a prescription from a DR. when I turned 18, who by the way later got busted, I now have 6 healthy kids, no health problems, and all the people I’m still in touch with from high school are all doing well.
This is like telling kids if you have premarital sex your dick will fall off, just educate and hope he makes the right decisions.
There are health risks related to steroid use and they definitely aren’t meant for a teenager, you just don’t need them, especially today with all the great research companies like Biotest do the supplements they have really do work.
My son uses protein surge, BCAA, and Beta-7 and he is stronger and looks better than I ever did at his age when I used steroids.
Find somebody with knowledge and have them take you under their wing, most people that train enjoy having a project like a young kid to help. I have helped several of my sons friends avoid using steroids and make awesome progress. Good Luck, and you will be just fine.
shit that sounds quite a bit better haha. The next thing is what are the best supplements to take out there, because ther e is so damn many ive been taking the BSN true mass, cell mass shit for a while but ive heard theres better shit now. Let me know of some good products to take.
heres the shit… . you fucked your shit up… . you had to use the shit at a young age like a shit… . for all that shit you only gained 10 shit pounds! what a waste of shit! learn to eat more shit and stop shooting shit… . fucking shit!
