More than anything I am simply looking forward to you making the jump and finding resolution: it will make my day knowing another man has found a solution.
I probably would not be so aggressive in my stance if I didn’t trust the sources and of had my own experience.
Hmm I have never used cream. Why did they say not to put it on your ball sack? Any specific reason?
They said that intratesticular estrogen could be created with scrotal application.
And what does this mean?
You’d probably know better than I would man. I guess that, much like the estrogen effects of HCG in the testicles, an AI wouldn’t be useful if you were having side-effects?
I just put some on my balls tonight. We’ll see how it goes.
Your doctor said that?
It isnt put on the balls to stimulate them though. The only reason I know to apply scrotally is the skin is more permeable then elsewhere. Therefore better absorption.
Yes, my wife was on the call too, she was taking notes and confirmed that he did indeed say that when I asked.
Pretty positive my nuts have shrunk just as much as some on injections do lol. So they aren’t working to create testicular testosterone and estrogen from the cream.
I hear you, not sure where that info came from but that’s what was stated. I second-guess myself sometimes when it comes to these phone calls with my doctor due to the sheer amount of info I ask for and receive. Now I ask my wife to jot things down as I talk to them to make sure I’m not misrepresenting them when I repeat what they said.
That’s one of the crazier things I’ve heard. Surprising that it came from a TRT clinic.
What ever you decide to do do it consistent. So you get stable.
Also I would ask defy about their theory on why scrotum cream increases testes e2. Is this backed up by a study? Based on experience? Do they have other patients on scrotum application? And how are they doing?
Before Dr c passed he mentioned on the EM forum that scrotum cream may be the way to go.
Maybe they rather prescribe injections at higher doses so they can prescribe other meds to mitigate that affect??
Is the scrotum cream cheaper?
Mind if I ask what your routine was when you were applying to the scrotum? Also what your numbers were?
It’s far more expensive. $70 for a 6 week supply at 2 clicks per day. That’s not including shipping costs.
Has anyone ever tried alternating spots or would this just mess you up (e.g. balls at morning, shoulders/biceps/thighs at night)? The literature that came with the cream said sites should be rotated.
For sure, man! It’s all logged in detail here: https://t-nation.com/t/realistic-trt-recomp-progress
You da man!
The levels will flux to much brother.
Just apply to the boys early AM and a good 6-8 hours before bed. So maybe 6am and 5-6pm. If I apply to close to bed it’s hard sleeping.
So glad you made the switch. How you feeling today? As long as you don’t feel worse in the next few days you’ll know this is a good move.
Oh and when did you stop injections? You might want to apply once daily until the injections are out of system.
I feel ok at the moment. It’s hard to apply far from bedtime for me because I work 12 hours shifts 4 days a week. I did apply before bed last night and slept ok though (as good as you can with a newborn).
I stopped injections for 3 days before starting.