Thanks for your help on this, definitely something I’m still considering but damn, 10 minutes…
Yes so tsh is not the best , but it can indicate a problem. TSH should be around .5 to 1.5 from what I’m told. Keep in mind someone with a tsh of 1.0 can still have a faulty thyroid. Here is why. Like free t you want optimal free t3 thyroid hormone. You might have plenty of t4, but If it’s not converting to free t3 you will not feel good. There are plenty of folks with sound tsh levels but their t3 is not there. Hope that makes sense.
So yah check the thyroid and make sure you check free t3 . Regardless of where TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) is . You want this ft3 to be above mid range.
Some folks have ft3 at 3.5 midrange and think they are fine. They take some dedicated thyroid and ft3 goes to 5 or more and they feel much better.
I wonder if maybe you have a thyroid problem causing some of these issues. (Edit I was thinking of someone else in that comment)
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Very interesting! So you would recommend checking out TSH and Free T3? Anything else you think is important? I’ll ask for these values on my next bloodwork.
When checking thyroid i check
TSH
Free t3
Free t4
Total t3
Thyroid antibodies
If you never checked reverse t3 you can do that too
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@charlie12 can answer that better. I have a very basic understanding of how the thyroid operates.
@charlie12 So, I had TSH tested in January 2017, and it was 1.34. Obviously a lot could have changed since then, but that’s good to know as a reference point. How’s that number look to you?
That TSH is very good. However it appears some individuals may still have hypothyroidism symptoms. That’s why it’s good to run a thyroid profile panel lab that includes free t3. Also with a small number of people all numbers could look good but there reverse t3 is high which “blocks” the active free t3 from working.
Remember thyroid hormones can fluctuate greatly within a day. So it’s good to make decisions based on more than 1 lab.
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your RT3 is high. Take T3 to clear RT3 and get it below 15.
can you expand on how they thyroid treatment helped you @enackers? was your RT3 high? what were your labs before and after and what symptoms did it resolve? notice a change in shbg?
Unfortunately the clinic I asked for labs did not give me the proper labs twice. Although I was specific. So when I switched to my new doc we didn’t have proper details from labs. Regardless we knew thyroid was messed up from tsh and etc.
It fixed everything. Fatigue evaporated The moment I took my thyroid pill : within a week or two the trt seemed to start working.
I don’t know why folks keep talking about shbg and shit. Just take the trt and thyroid and let your doc adjust. Shbg is not the one be all. Just becusse someone has high shbg does
Not mean they are going to need 300mg .
Also I am on the cream and switched form injections. It’s awesome.’
Check my topic.
are you injecting subq or IM? I aromatised a lot more on subq. check my thread for my labs, I reduced my dose and increased frequency but E2 was significantly higher.
I just want to know if the baby is here yet!
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Yes she is! She came on Thursday at 4:27PM ET. Everyone is doing well!
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That is awesome. Wonderful.
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Thanks man!
Congratulations! Hope you are feeling better!
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Feeling good at the moment, thanks! Hope all is well with you too!
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I just had another consult with Defy due to ongoing irritability and intermittent depressive symptoms. They stated that based on my labs that I’m a high converter and that it doesn’t seem like injectables are working anyway. They suggested starting a conservative dose of transdermal cream. They did warn there’s a possibility of converting even more of the cream to estrogen than I do on the injections. They did not suggest applying it to the scrotum since it would create intratesticular estrogen. They said that I may just be one of those individuals who need an AI but they also recognized my hesitation to take them. I may simply be a person who doesn’t respond to TRT well but we said we’ll cross the bridge of coming off completely much later if all else fails.
I’ll be honest, I’m scared. My symptoms can get so bad that my mind goes to dark places. I have started a family and I don’t want anything to happen to me because of hormone problems. Anyone have insight?
@physioLojik @NH_Watts @systemlord @enackers @charlie12 @highpull @anon10035199 @roscoe88
An AI in’t going to kill you. Seriously. I inflated like the Michelin man on any dose when I started. I currently am off the AI completely. It is not necessarily a permanent necessity. Everything you are doing is artificial, why be put off by one more artificial thing to help you adjust?
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I understand, my situation is that I’m sensitive to everything I put in my system. Defy did say that based on their experience if an individual is sensitive to a few things they’re likely to be sensitive to an AI.