[quote]OGrady wrote:
Also, I’m glad we cleared up that comparing Obama to a monkey isn’t racist.
I mean, if you can do it to a white guy too, it isn’t racist, right?[/quote]
Would it be racist to compare Obama to a mammal?
How about to a vertebrate?
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]OGrady wrote:
Also, I’m glad we cleared up that comparing Obama to a monkey isn’t racist.
I mean, if you can do it to a white guy too, it isn’t racist, right?[/quote]
Would it be racist to compare Obama to a mammal?
How about to a vertebrate?[/quote]
You know the context, lets not play stupid here.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]OGrady wrote:
Also, I’m glad we cleared up that comparing Obama to a monkey isn’t racist.
I mean, if you can do it to a white guy too, it isn’t racist, right?[/quote]
Would it be racist to compare Obama to a mammal?
How about to a vertebrate?[/quote]
Would it be anti semitic to keep posting photoshops of the first jewish president next to ovens? If so explain why without using the word history.
This kind of purposeful removal of context is so irritating. I liked it more when we all admitted we were racist.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Yet these same people who would back the intervention of Libya to the hilt are against the invasion and overthrow of the Saddam Hussein regime. Why? [/quote]
Another small example – throw it on the Babelian heap – of your virtuosic command of fallacy, error, and breathless tail-chasing.
You tried this already and I answered it in one sarcastic sentence, because that’s all it deserves. The two situations are different in every relevant respect. Iraq was not pulling itself apart in open war in 2002-3 – hence the Bush administration’s having to prod, massage, stretch, misrepresent, and lie about its evidence in order to build a papier-mache case for war. In fact, if – as you somehow seem not to understand – it is our or my contention that Libya was the right call in accordance with the axiom that civil war in the Middle East is to be avoided or mitigated at all reasonable cost (because of its exacerbative effect on the global terror threat), then Iraq was the wrong call vis-a-vis the very same axiom. Leave it to you to hold up harmony and shout, “Look! Discord!”
First, anyone – anyone – could tell you that a no-fly zone is going to cost nothing next to a ground invasion, in either monetary or human terms.
Second, no one could have predicted a sectarian civil war? Why do you keep pissing in your hat and then handing it to me with the request that I help you put it on? Are you actually going out of your way to write things that make it easy for me to call you an idiot?
Note that this is just a little piece I pulled out. I could go on. I won’t, though. I spent eight minutes writing this, and who’s going to give them back? You? Because I no longer consider you a remotely serious poster – see the last 5 pages or so for specific reasons, paying particular attention to where I highlighted and commented upon the first few words of each entry in a 3-post exchange between us (I pause to observe that that commentary was not unlike a meta-analysis or a review of the literature, and to inform you that if I were forced to choose an analogical academic discipline, I’d of course go with scatology) – I feel no impulse to afford you courtesies you’re unable or unwilling to afford others.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Turks out of an airbase in Incerlik coordinating the arming of rebel groups. Qatar acts as go between.[/quote]
Speaking of Qatar. Hear the latest? About the row between Qatar and Egypt? Qatar’s pissed that Egypt bombed ISIS in Libya!!! Talk about showing your true colors man!
[quote]magick wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Why is he doing all this?
[/quote]
Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone here is a part of Obama’s inside group or have a mind-reading device.
So we probably can’t give you the right answer.
[/quote]
True, but if we are unable to speculate, this entire forum is rather pointless.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]OGrady wrote:
Also, I’m glad we cleared up that comparing Obama to a monkey isn’t racist.
I mean, if you can do it to a white guy too, it isn’t racist, right?[/quote]
Would it be racist to compare Obama to a mammal?
How about to a vertebrate?[/quote]
How about a fish, or a worm?
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Yet these same people who would back the intervention of Libya to the hilt are against the invasion and overthrow of the Saddam Hussein regime. Why? [/quote]
Another small example – throw it on the Babelian heap – of your virtuosic command of fallacy, error, and breathless tail-chasing.
You tried this already and I answered it in one sarcastic sentence, because that’s all it deserves. The two situations are different in every relevant respect. Iraq was not pulling itself apart in open war in 2002-3 – hence the Bush administration’s having to prod, massage, stretch, misrepresent, and lie about its evidence in order to build a papier-mache case for war. In fact, if – as you somehow seem not to understand – it is our or my contention that Libya was the right call in accordance with the axiom that civil war in the Middle East is to be avoided or mitigated at all reasonable cost (because of its exacerbative effect on the global terror threat), then Iraq was the wrong call vis-a-vis the very same axiom. Leave it to you to hold up harmony and shout, “Look! Discord!”
[/quote]
Ok, but Syria is pulling itself apart in open war and if we adhere to an accordance with the axiom that civil war in the Middle East is to be avoided or mitigated at all reasonable cost then why the hell haven’t we bombed Syrian’s weapons? Why haven’t we destroyed Assad’s capability to make war? We took away his chemical weapons…big victory for the Obamas people!! - yet let him keep ALL of his conventional and non-conventional (barrel bombs) weapons to slaughter thousands. And yet no one is calling for air strikes in Syria? Why or why not?
Don’t read a link. I could have predicted it and did predict it from the get go. Any muslim dictator who has been overthrown was eventually replaced by a Theocracy or Islamist form of government. I have said that many times.
Note that this is just a little piece I pulled out. I could go on. I won’t, though. (I pause to observe that that commentary was not unlike a meta-analysis and to inform you that if I were forced to choose an analogical academic discipline, I’d of course go with scatology) – I feel no impulse to afford you courtesies you’re unable or unwilling to afford others.[/quote]
Cool. I got the response I was looking for from Varq anyway. And let me tell you, getting that one response was like vomiting, giving birth, pissing and shitting myself all at the same time.
Fucking open heart surgery’s more fun that arguing with you man!
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]OGrady wrote:
Also, I’m glad we cleared up that comparing Obama to a monkey isn’t racist.
I mean, if you can do it to a white guy too, it isn’t racist, right?[/quote]
Would it be racist to compare Obama to a mammal?
How about to a vertebrate?[/quote]
How about a fish, or a worm?
[/quote]
But that’s my point. He is neither a fish nor a worm. He is, however, a vertebrate, a mammal, a monkey, and an ape. There is nothing racist about that. Is is a fact.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Fucking open heart surgery’s more fun that arguing with you man![/quote]
Oh come on – that, like most of the post it came from, is basically a parody of an insulting letter that might be published in the British press, and it’s a bunch of things (vulgar, mean, probably at least a little little little bit unfair), but it isn’t not-fun. I appreciate the shit out of insults like that, especially when they’re directed at me.
As for Syria – I don’t know Syria like I know Libya. I worked professionally on the subject of the Libyan conflict and I have a very good handle on what was happening there both before and after the intervention. From what I do know about Syria, yes, we’d almost certainly be doing better if we’d found a way to end the war earlier. Go back and find all the editorials saying that Syria’s war is not America’s problem. Today all of those newspapers are printing hysterical complaints about ISIS very much being America’s problem. This is the cost of myopia.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]OGrady wrote:
Also, I’m glad we cleared up that comparing Obama to a monkey isn’t racist.
I mean, if you can do it to a white guy too, it isn’t racist, right?[/quote]
Would it be racist to compare Obama to a mammal?
How about to a vertebrate?[/quote]
How about a fish, or a worm?
[/quote]
But that’s my point. He is neither a fish nor a worm. He is, however, a vertebrate, a mammal, a monkey, and an ape. There is nothing racist about that. Is is a fact.[/quote]
Monkey? Possibly Great Ape.
All life began in the oceans billions and billions of years ago.
Kingdom: Animalia (he is, after all, just an animal)
Phylum: Chordata (he has a backbone, though rarely shows it)
Class: Mammalia (he sucked a tit and did not hatch from an egg)
Order: Primates (he is a primate)
Infraorder: Simiiformes (he is a monkey)
Family: Hominidae (he is an ape)
Tribe: Hominini (he is a humanlike ape)
Genus: Homo (he is a homo)
Species: H. sapiens sapiens (he is a modern human, though perhaps “postmodern” would suit him better)
[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
How is “Obummer” even considered racist…[/quote]
In and of itself it is not racist, however as I stated when people who never used name pun before start, when they call the first black man to be president a marxist, a muslim, secret supported of islamic terrorism, when they go mad about his administrations infringement on civil liberties yet supported GW twice, there is a pattern. [/quote]
Ummm, did you miss all of those years where GW’s approval rating was setting records for how low it was?
Do you know how many times GW was referred to as a retarded on this very website?
None of what you listed has anything to do with race… “A pattern,” ya they don’t like him, so what?
[quote]
As for no one caring about the fact they have a black president, this is obviously false. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure my finger is a little closer to the American pulse than yours is.
[quote]
Just look at the hatred spewed about Obama by average white Americans online, Nigger has never rolled so effortlessly. [/quote]
That is obviously false…
[quote]
Just because I acknowledge that reality does not make me PC. I don’t care if you call him a Nigger and my neighbour a bog eyes irish twat. Just don’t pretend a huge chunk of America and Europe are not racist. [/quote]
I have no idea about Europe. The vast majority of Americans are not racist. Your assertion is laughably inaccurate.
L o fucking l.
Translation: “We don’t see racism hardly at all anymore, but there’s no way its gone so it must just be behind closed doors / anonymous / online.”
That’s utter non-sense. Racism exists to a very small degree anymore here.
Obama beat one of the whitest guys ever in 2008 and then beat an even more white guy in 2012. Don’t project Europe’s races issues on us.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Phylum: Chordata (he has a backbone, though rarely shows it)
[/quote]
If I’m not mistaken, chordates can be invertebrate. The subphylum “Vertebrata” would indicate that he has a (rarely-glimpsed) backbone.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Phylum: Chordata (he has a backbone, though rarely shows it)
[/quote]
If I’m not mistaken, chordates can be invertebrate. The subphylum “Vertebrata” would indicate that he has a (rarely-glimpsed) backbone.[/quote]
Absolutely right. My mistake.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Phylum: Chordata (he has a backbone, though rarely shows it)
[/quote]
If I’m not mistaken, chordates can be invertebrate. The subphylum “Vertebrata” would indicate that he has a (rarely-glimpsed) backbone.[/quote]
Absolutely right. My mistake.[/quote]
I liked the homo line, though. Parched in a British kind of way – he is, indeed, a homo.
Also, it reminded me that the guy who said he’d fellated Obama did so during a press conference in which his lawyer delivered an aside about his (the lawyer’s) kilt being made necessary by reason of genital enormity. Which for obvious reasons I am always glad to remember.
I love how white liberals get so offended on other peoples behalf.
No one is more hyper-sensitive about race than white liberals.
If I referred to Mr. President as “President Obola”, is that racist?
I bet it is.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Musashi92 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
How is “Obummer” even considered racist…[/quote]
In and of itself it is not racist, however as I stated when people who never used name pun before start, when they call the first black man to be president a marxist, a muslim, secret supported of islamic terrorism, when they go mad about his administrations infringement on civil liberties yet supported GW twice, there is a pattern. [/quote]
Ummm, did you miss all of those years where GW’s approval rating was setting records for how low it was?
Do you know how many times GW was referred to as a retarded on this very website?
None of what you listed has anything to do with race… “A pattern,” ya they don’t like him, so what?
[quote]
As for no one caring about the fact they have a black president, this is obviously false. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure my finger is a little closer to the American pulse than yours is.
[quote]
Just look at the hatred spewed about Obama by average white Americans online, Nigger has never rolled so effortlessly. [/quote]
That is obviously false…
First off don’t play the I know more cause i am from here shit, plenty of germans supported Hitler, does that mean they were right and the anti fascist league of the United States was wrong? So infantile to claim that. Guess what, people can see racism in your country, pretending it does not exist is embarassing. The racial tensions in the U.S are far more heightened than the rest of the west, a white dude online saying that is not so is not changing that.
According to a whole shitload of polls large segments of the U.S are indeed … gasp, racist.
And no, its not that racism has magically disappeared (something laughable to any non white person who experiences it all the time) it is that there are now repercussions for racist actions, so racism has become covert.
I see it all the time, when other white people are in the company of other white people who they can trust that is when the epithets fly. These same white people will act outraged at the insinuation of them being racist.
White people in the U.S now seem to think racism is lynching a nigger for whistling at a white woman, dragging someone behind a car or being in the KKK. Everything else is just people being over sensitive.
Everyone should be a man and stop hiding behind the claim of PC gone mad and just say yeah, I am prejudice, most people are in one way or another.
Or we can hide context and pretend gollywogs are not racist and cry about political correctness because we can’t wear black face anymore.
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I love how white liberals get so offended on other peoples behalf.
No one is more hyper-sensitive about race than white liberals.
If I referred to Mr. President as “President Obola”, is that racist?
I bet it is. [/quote]
I am not offended by racism, I just wish white men had the balls to actually admit they are racist. Far left SJW and covert white racists are just as annoying and phony with their fake outrage.
I don’t care if you hate black people or Irish, or Poles or faggots or Spics, just be man enough to admit it and stand up for your opinion rather than hide it.
The amount of white men who in private with their mates will call football players on the TV niggers or wogs or moan about coloured immigration or muslims and then when in public will ct like they are part of the rainbow coalition is embarrassing. My race is loosing its nuts big time.
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
If I referred to Mr. President as “President Obola”, is that racist?
I bet it is. [/quote]
No, it’s just really, really stupid. Like all of these names for Bush, Clinton, and Obama alike. They insult the speaker, not the spoken-of.
Except Swallow the Leader: that one’s too good.
