Joke of the Day 2014

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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Perhaps as a reflection of larger changes, we have had some pretty effeminate presidents in the recent past.

There’s this new video in the OP. And lets not forget that his predecessor was a cheerleader and, much more egregiously, a physical coward who was not into war until he began starting them.

Let’s not forget Hollywood Reagan, nursing a chimp like its mommy.

Let’s not forget Ford the fashion model.

I suppose these things are better than Kennedy and Clinton, who occupy the opposite, much-more-rapey end of the masculinity spectrum.

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

What is fallacious?

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Tickle unsurprised you don’t know.

Carry on. Enjoy the butthurt.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Perhaps as a reflection of larger changes, we have had some pretty effeminate presidents in the recent past.

There’s this new video in the OP. And lets not forget that his predecessor was a cheerleader and, much more egregiously, a physical coward who was not into war until he began starting them.

Let’s not forget Hollywood Reagan, nursing a chimp like its mommy.

Let’s not forget Ford the fashion model.

I suppose these things are better than Kennedy and Clinton, who occupy the opposite, much-more-rapey end of the masculinity spectrum.[/quote]

I mentioned something similar in the GAL version of this thread.

A 1986 Regan would make Bam look like Dave Tate here. California Liberal Regan probably would put a hurting on Obama here. Pretty sure Nixion and LBJ both would have bit off Bam’s head and shit down his neck in the “toughness” category. Bush41… Not sure. Prob would have the CIA lift his weights for him, lol.

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Thing about this is:

  1. Yes Obama looks like a bitch here, yes it is funny.
  2. Dude has the most demanding job on the planet and likely has enough physical wear and tear from stress to make those weights feel like 80lbs each.

I’m not one to defend the dude, but to da anything other than get a chuckle out of someone looking like a tool is too much, in either direction.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Perhaps as a reflection of larger changes, we have had some pretty effeminate presidents in the recent past.

There’s this new video in the OP. And lets not forget that his predecessor was a cheerleader and, much more egregiously, a physical coward who was not into war until he began starting them.

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Them? Plural? He didn’t “start” the Afghan War and there’s a very compelling argument to be made that Saddam was responsible for the Second Gulf War by ignoring numerous UN resolutions, allowing al Qaeda to set up shop in Iraq not to mention invading Kuwait, threatening the world’ oil supplies, firing Scud missiles into Israel, funding Palestinian terrorists and attempting to assassinate a US president.

Reagan was in a satirical movie with a chimp? Gee what a sissy.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Perhaps as a reflection of larger changes, we have had some pretty effeminate presidents in the recent past.

There’s this new video in the OP. And lets not forget that his predecessor was a cheerleader and, much more egregiously, a physical coward who was not into war until he began starting them.

[/quote]

Them? Plural? He didn’t “start” the Afghan War and there’s a very compelling argument to be made that Saddam was responsible for the Second Gulf War by ignoring numerous UN resolutions, allowing al Qaeda to set up shop in Iraq not to mention invading Kuwait, threatening the world’ oil supplies, firing Scud missiles into Israel, funding Palestinian terrorists and attempting to assassinate a US president.

Reagan was in a satirical movie with a chimp? Gee what a sissy.
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Ronnie was the king of the shit-B movies. But in politics, he had a lot of respect that seems to now be a thing of the past in the WH. The Iran hostage deal, the Iranians folded like a house of cards as soon as he was inaugurated.

I personally made a ton of $$ with his military spending programs. Under Carter, our military was a joke in many aspects.

Rob

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Perhaps as a reflection of larger changes, we have had some pretty effeminate presidents in the recent past.

There’s this new video in the OP. And lets not forget that his predecessor was a cheerleader and, much more egregiously, a physical coward who was not into war until he began starting them.

[/quote]

Them? Plural? He didn’t “start” the Afghan War and there’s a very compelling argument to be made that Saddam was responsible for the Second Gulf War by ignoring numerous UN resolutions, allowing al Qaeda to set up shop in Iraq not to mention invading Kuwait, threatening the world’ oil supplies, firing Scud missiles into Israel, funding Palestinian terrorists and attempting to assassinate a US president.[/quote]

‘Them’ being here nothing more than a figure of speech–part of a saying. Afghanistan is not something I criticize–at least, not in existential terms–because I’d have done the same.

As for Iraq, well we’ve been over that and I could not disagree more that there is any compelling positive argument to be made about that unforgivable clusterfuck.

Either way, though, the point is that Bush went out of his way not to fight in a war, and then…yeah, that’s more egregious pussydom than anything I’ve seen lately.

Yes, I agree. A B-movie actor–you know, actor, like, make-up wearing make-believe pretender–paid a bunch of money to feed a ba-ba to a chimp is not exactly the pinnacle of masculinity.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

  1. Yes Obama looks like a bitch here, yes it is funny.[/quote]

Yep.

[quote]
2) Dude has the most demanding job on the planet and likely has enough physical wear and tear from stress to make those weights feel like 80lbs each.

I’m not one to defend the dude, but to da anything other than get a chuckle out of someone looking like a tool is too much, in either direction. [/quote]

And yep.

I would sit down and undertake a long, hard re-evaluation of my entire life if I saw a clip of myself lifting and it looked anything remotely like that.

On the other hand, I don’t give a shit about the president’s workout routine, and I highly doubt that old pear-shaped Ted Cruz would look any better tossing his mush around a gym. Again, not that that matters in the slightest.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:

Yes, I agree. A B-movie actor–you know, actor, like, make-up wearing make-believe pretender–paid a bunch of money to feed a ba-ba to a chimp is not exactly the pinnacle of masculinity.[/quote]

Oh I see. Actor = sissy. Basil Rathbone? Sissy. Claude Rains? Sissy. Herbert Marshall? Sissy. Audie Murphy? Sissy. It’s so obvious; why didn’t I see it before? I mean actors wear make up and play make believe.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I mean actors wear make up and play make believe.[/quote]

Yeah, that’s literally exactly what they do. Like, literally.

Before being elected, some American presidents led men into battle. Some of them devoted themselves to the study and practice of law. Some of them learned dead languages and invented things and designed great buildings. One of them killed a guy in a duel.

And one of them did this:

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I mean actors wear make up and play make believe.[/quote]

Yeah, that’s literally exactly what they do. Like, literally.

Before being elected, some American presidents led men into battle. Some of them devoted themselves to the study and practice of law. Some of them learned dead languages and invented things and designed great buildings. One of them killed a guy in a duel.

And one of them did this:

Bedtime For Bonzo - YouTube [/quote]

One devoted himself to fighting Communism and brought down the Soviet Union. Another was raised by a CPUSA agitator who was on the FBI’s “arrest immediately in the event of war with the Soviets” list. One was a patriot; the other a thoroughly subversive anti-American radical.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

One devoted himself to fighting Communism and brought down the Soviet Union. Another was raised by a CPUSA agitator who was on the FBI’s “arrest immediately in the event of war with the Soviets” list. One was a patriot; the other a thoroughly subversive anti-American radical.[/quote]

As I expected, you are no longer remotely on topic. As in, not in the same solar system.

But, hey, when you’re losing at chess, flip the board over and hope your opponent thinks you were playing tiddlywinks all along.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

One devoted himself to fighting Communism and brought down the Soviet Union. Another was raised by a CPUSA agitator who was on the FBI’s “arrest immediately in the event of war with the Soviets” list. One was a patriot; the other a thoroughly subversive anti-American radical.[/quote]

As I expected, you are no longer remotely on topic. As in, not in the same solar system.

But, hey, when you’re losing at chess, flip the board over and hope your opponent thinks you were playing tiddlywinks all along.[/quote]

Yeah well, the topic kind of changed from “funny Obama moment” to “Bush II and Reagan were cowards.” I wonder how that happened.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

One devoted himself to fighting Communism and brought down the Soviet Union. Another was raised by a CPUSA agitator who was on the FBI’s “arrest immediately in the event of war with the Soviets” list. One was a patriot; the other a thoroughly subversive anti-American radical.[/quote]

As I expected, you are no longer remotely on topic. As in, not in the same solar system.

But, hey, when you’re losing at chess, flip the board over and hope your opponent thinks you were playing tiddlywinks all along.[/quote]

Yeah well, the topic kind of changed from “funny Obama moment” to “Bush II and Reagan were cowards.” I wonder how that happened.[/quote]

Actually it changed to: “Yeah, Obama does lift like a pussy. Presidents seem to have been getting more feminine in the last 40 years, with a few exceptions.” Pretty natural progression, and certainly natural to think about things in terms of their contexts.

But I know you’d rather everybody simply agree that Obama is a female/psychopath/Communist/cactus.

Anyway, this is not to suggest that I didn’t laugh at the video, because I certainly did.

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You’re the one who came out of left field trotting out the discredited 2004 “Bush draft dodger/coward” story and the ludicrous claim that Reagan was a sissy because he was in a satirical movie with a chimp. Regardless, I do enjoy these little partisan asides which I often initiate myself.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
You’re the one who came out of left field trotting out the discredited 2004 “Bush draft dodger/coward” story[/quote]

I never said anything about draft-dodging–that is a specific accusation, and it doesn’t apply. Which is why I don’t make it–ever. What I did say, was perfectly accurate. He “wasn’t into war.” As in, he joined the Guard, seen at the time as an escape from 'Nam, just before losing his student deferment and, whatta ya know, the guy with the rich politician daddy gets in despite his low score on the aptitude test.

Fast forward a few decades, and suddenly war isn’t such a bad idea anymore.

But anyway.

[quote]
and the ludicrous claim that Reagan was a sissy because he was in a satirical movie with a chimp. [/quote]

I consider acting, in general, to be a pretty “traditionally feminine” occupation. Make-up and hairdressers and make-believe and all that. Certainly, in terms of presidents’ occupations before their presidencies, I consider it among the silliest and most feminine in American history.

[quote]
Regardless, I do enjoy these little partisan asides [/quote]

So do I, that’s why I launch into them!

Anyway, the S.S. says this wasn’t all that weird–that Obama is around normal people like this regularly. Seems pretty crazy to me. I’d have thought they’d just clear the gym out for an hour, rather than have “the most important man alive” lifting next to a bunch of random strangers.

I mean, if somebody were really unhinged, and really savage, and didn’t give a fuck about personal survival, they could probably get in at least a single blow–to the head–with a metal 5-pound dumbbell before being dropped by S.S. And the wrong guy could do a shitload of damage with one dumbbell-blow to the head. I’m not saying it’s likely, but neither does it seem impossible.

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and

are what happens when women are allowed to vote.

They elect the adorable gay BFF and/or the toxic guy they shouldn’t date.

Classic archetypes.

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:
I consider acting, in general, to be a pretty “traditionally feminine” occupation. Make-up and hairdressers and make-believe and all that.
[/quote]

That’s ridiculous. Especially during the studio era when Hollywood was full of square jawed tough guys. But anyway…

[quote]
I mean, if somebody were really unhinged, and really savage, and didn’t give a fuck about personal survival, they could probably get in at least a single blow–to the head–with a metal 5-pound dumbbell before being dropped by S.S. And the wrong guy could do a shitload of damage with one dumbbell-blow to the head. [/quote]

You shouldn’t tempt me. /sarcasm

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
I consider acting, in general, to be a pretty “traditionally feminine” occupation. Make-up and hairdressers and make-believe and all that.
[/quote]

That’s ridiculous. Especially during the studio era when Hollywood was full of square jawed tough guys. But anyway…[/quote]

A square-jawed guy who looks and acts tough can still have a frivolous, silly job that involves mugging for a camera and playing make-believe. I’m not saying all actors are inveterate pussies, but I do think, as I said, that acting is among the more fatuous and traditionally feminine “first jobs” an American president has ever had.

[quote]

[quote]
I mean, if somebody were really unhinged, and really savage, and didn’t give a fuck about personal survival, they could probably get in at least a single blow–to the head–with a metal 5-pound dumbbell before being dropped by S.S. And the wrong guy could do a shitload of damage with one dumbbell-blow to the head. [/quote]

You shouldn’t tempt me. /sarcasm[/quote]

NSA agent who’s reading this right now: He’s kidding, lighten up!

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[quote]smh_23 wrote:

I mean, if somebody were really unhinged, and really savage, and didn’t give a fuck about personal survival, they could probably get in at least a single blow–to the head–with a metal 5-pound dumbbell before being dropped by S.S. And the wrong guy could do a shitload of damage with one dumbbell-blow to the head. I’m not saying it’s likely, but neither does it seem impossible.[/quote]

I don’t know. I assume the SS aren’t a bunch of slackers and you’d have a hole in your skull well before you even started the forward trajectory with a plate big enough to do real damage.

Imagine that story in the press: “Man has heartattack in Gym, POTUS tries CPR, but it is too late”