John Meadows Style of Training

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
thing I really like about JM’s training is how he sequences exercises to make your workouts as joint friendly as possible. My shoulders feel better than they have in years.

It does suck a bit at first when you’re benching third in a workout and your numbers have all gone to hell though…[/quote]

That’s the thing that every intelligent trainer should eventually realize. If the goal of your training is physique development, and decimated joints will hamper, or even cease your progress, than you’re forced to take a step back and get out of the ‘lift heavy at all costs/bench first so you can use the heaviest weight’ mind set.

I think JM has gotten a lot of newer, and intermediate guys to really see the ‘place’ that heavy weights have in a program, but also that it’s not actually the be all end all for hypertrophy.

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
thing I really like about JM’s training is how he sequences exercises to make your workouts as joint friendly as possible. My shoulders feel better than they have in years.

It does suck a bit at first when you’re benching third in a workout and your numbers have all gone to hell though…[/quote]

That’s the thing that every intelligent trainer should eventually realize. If the goal of your training is physique development, and decimated joints will hamper, or even cease your progress, than you’re forced to take a step back and get out of the ‘lift heavy at all costs/bench first so you can use the heaviest weight’ mind set.

I think JM has gotten a lot of newer, and intermediate guys to really see the ‘place’ that heavy weights have in a program, but also that it’s not actually the be all end all for hypertrophy.

S
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totally agree with you man. I’ve lost YEARS’ worth of progress from back and shoulder injuries chasing bigger numbers. Obviously getting stronger is still the goal, but it’s all about the “percieved” effort, instead of weight lifted

All I will say is that I learned with JM how to make a 20lbs dumbell feel heavier than a 50lbs dumbell.

I do agree that strenght progression is important. What I do realize is that it seems I could keep training with 20lbs dumbells forever and could actually just keep making that weight feel heavier and heavier just by the way I contract during the movement and stuff…

I feel like I dont have to focus on strenght progression for it to happen… it just does…

I had not inclined db pressed in a long time and before my max was like 115lbs x 13

I had it in my program last week and I went

95 x 8
105 x 8
115 x 8
125 x 16-15-10-8

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
thing I really like about JM’s training is how he sequences exercises to make your workouts as joint friendly as possible. My shoulders feel better than they have in years.

It does suck a bit at first when you’re benching third in a workout and your numbers have all gone to hell though…[/quote]

That’s the thing that every intelligent trainer should eventually realize. If the goal of your training is physique development, and decimated joints will hamper, or even cease your progress, than you’re forced to take a step back and get out of the ‘lift heavy at all costs/bench first so you can use the heaviest weight’ mind set.

I think JM has gotten a lot of newer, and intermediate guys to really see the ‘place’ that heavy weights have in a program, but also that it’s not actually the be all end all for hypertrophy.

S
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Yeah, I’ve recently had a bit of a coming to Jesus talk with myself about lifting. Been spending more time trying to heal than actually lifting. The one thing I’d disagree with you on is that physique being the main reason to lift this way. I think the truth is that long term strength may be better this way too. You may not be moving as heavy of weights right now, but in 10, 15, 20 years you’ll be lifting more than if your joints and back are broken down and you’ve got scar tissue in half your muscles.

I’ve been trying to piece together a split from his body part articles but have a couple questions -

When moving to the higher volume 2nd phase, is added volume from additional exercises or more sets of the same exercises as phase 1?

Also, how often do you switch exercises? Eg, alternate between 2 workouts and just adjust sets/intensity techniques as phases progress, or do 1 routine for all of phase 1, another one for phase 2, etc.

Any help is appreciated, thanks!

[quote]thogue wrote:
I’ve been trying to piece together a split from his body part articles but have a couple questions -

When moving to the higher volume 2nd phase, is added volume from additional exercises or more sets of the same exercises as phase 1?

Also, how often do you switch exercises? Eg, alternate between 2 workouts and just adjust sets/intensity techniques as phases progress, or do 1 routine for all of phase 1, another one for phase 2, etc.

Any help is appreciated, thanks![/quote]

When working with JM the workouts change every week

The # of sets can be from more exercises OR just more sets but anyways it all changes every week so… lol

The mixing it up part is what i enjoy about MD style training. I would always do the same week after week, while switching up only if i couldn’t get on a machine i wanted. Got a bit boring. Switching up the reps, sets and movements i do weekly keeps it fun. Plus as i don’t have previous weights to compare to every week. I just pick a weight that feels right instead of trying to beat PRs on everything. I still like to keep a compound movement in that i use to gauge strength though.

I wouldn’t say i gained loads more muscle on MD than i would have following my old routine. But my joints feel better and i enjoy training a lot more. Plus drop sets, partials, 3 second negatives are proper fun, especially on leg day!