Mmmmmhmmm. So… OP, what are you going to do?
[quote]debraD wrote:
I would not want to work more than 45 hours averaged out. Fuck that I want to live. I’ll put in long hours sometimes when it’s called for but not everyday. I work hard but I’m smart and efficient. If you want quality work from your thinkers you need to limit the excessive hours and I strongly discourage it in my teams.
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“some incoherent rambling about 2080 per year, work ethic, cupcakes, walking to work uphill in snow and uphill home in 120 heat, blah blah, you sound soft, yada yada”
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
I would not want to work more than 45 hours averaged out. Fuck that I want to live. I’ll put in long hours sometimes when it’s called for but not everyday. I work hard but I’m smart and efficient. If you want quality work from your thinkers you need to limit the excessive hours and I strongly discourage it in my teams.
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“some incoherent rambling about 2080 per year, work ethic, cupcakes, walking to work uphill in snow and uphill home in 120 heat, blah blah, you sound soft, yada yada”
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lmao…
Dude, whatever. Delude yourself all you want.
The people championing “40 hours is just fine” have “high 5 figures” as a target earning range. And even then, the vast majority of people I’ve seen make even that work more than 35-40 hours a week, and put in significant amounts of time and effort into learning/mastering their profession and skill set.
If you want to live with your head in the clouds, continue on. But don’t disingenuously rephrase my posts into some uncreative drivel. MOre than enough people seem to fully understand my points. Have some integrity.
U mad bro ? Too much stress from work?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
U mad bro ? Too much stress from work? [/quote]
Dude is this because you are a Browns fan?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
U mad bro ? Too much stress from work? [/quote]
This is, without a doubt, 100% what I mean.
You don’t get it. You will one day, but you aren’t even on the road let alone the parking lot. You’ve got a ways to go before you’re in the ballpark yet.
I see this failed attempt to be clever as further proof of my points.
Consider this, if I was overly stressed at work, would I be posting here right now?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
U mad bro ? Too much stress from work? [/quote]
This is, without a doubt, 100% what I mean.
You don’t get it. You will one day, but you aren’t even on the road let alone the parking lot. You’ve got a ways to go before you’re in the ballpark yet.
I see this failed attempt to be clever as further proof of my points.
Consider this, if I was overly stressed at work, would I be posting here right now?[/quote]
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin. [/quote]
One of the best productivity programs I’ve seen recommends breaking your day up into “chunks”. 45 - 50 minutes of work, 10 - 15 min of “fuck off time” to keep your batteries charged. That’s how I roll and it’s pretty effective. I get a lot done and I still don’t feel super stressed out. I work 90 hours a week and about 40 - 50 of that is administrative - the rest is doing electric work. I like my system and I get a lot accomplished with out getting burned out.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin. [/quote]
One of the best productivity programs I’ve seen recommends breaking your day up into “chunks”. 45 - 50 minutes of work, 10 - 15 min of “fuck off time” to keep your batteries charged. That’s how I roll and it’s pretty effective. I get a lot done and I still don’t feel super stressed out. I work 90 hours a week and about 40 - 50 of that is administrative - the rest is doing electric work. I like my system and I get a lot accomplished with out getting burned out.[/quote]
That’s pretty much what I do right now lol.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin. [/quote]
One of the best productivity programs I’ve seen recommends breaking your day up into “chunks”. 45 - 50 minutes of work, 10 - 15 min of “fuck off time” to keep your batteries charged. That’s how I roll and it’s pretty effective. I get a lot done and I still don’t feel super stressed out. I work 90 hours a week and about 40 - 50 of that is administrative - the rest is doing electric work. I like my system and I get a lot accomplished with out getting burned out.[/quote]
That’s pretty much what I do right now lol.[/quote]
Over achievers.
YOLO
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin. [/quote]
One of the best productivity programs I’ve seen recommends breaking your day up into “chunks”. 45 - 50 minutes of work, 10 - 15 min of “fuck off time” to keep your batteries charged. That’s how I roll and it’s pretty effective. I get a lot done and I still don’t feel super stressed out. I work 90 hours a week and about 40 - 50 of that is administrative - the rest is doing electric work. I like my system and I get a lot accomplished with out getting burned out.[/quote]
That’s pretty much what I do right now lol.[/quote]
Over achievers.
YOLO[/quote]
Just to be clear, I meant the strategy, not the 90 hour work week lol.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin. [/quote]
One of the best productivity programs I’ve seen recommends breaking your day up into “chunks”. 45 - 50 minutes of work, 10 - 15 min of “fuck off time” to keep your batteries charged. That’s how I roll and it’s pretty effective. I get a lot done and I still don’t feel super stressed out. I work 90 hours a week and about 40 - 50 of that is administrative - the rest is doing electric work. I like my system and I get a lot accomplished with out getting burned out.[/quote]
That’s pretty much what I do right now lol.[/quote]
Over achievers.
YOLO[/quote]
Just to be clear, I meant the strategy, not the 90 hour work week lol.[/quote]
A 90 hour work week is foolish. And hopefully slightly exaggerated 
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I would hope that a reasonable adult with a career and family would manage his or her stress in a more resourceful and fulfilling manner… like counting beans or something.[/quote]
Stress management is a lot like lifting weights, to use an analogy familiar with those that post here. Different things will effect different people in different ways. Therefore different people will deal and manage it differently with varying levels of success.
Some people thrive in high pressure, high expectation and deadline driven environments. This doesn’t mean stress doesn’t wear down on them and they don’t have to manage it, however. Others prefer a slower pace, in an environment they can “explore” themselves in.
I know people that drink to manage stress, medicate, some go shooting, some lift, some bike, some run, some brow beat people, some kick shit and throw pens around the office… Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
I’m more comfortable the more hectic, intense and higher the pressure is. I enjoy the hustle of it all. I like the pressure, the responsibility and the organized chaos of it all. My profession works out well in this regard as I have that for periods, followed by periods of the year were I barely work 6 hours a day and spend my time with my kids and volunteering.
And I find work stress is exponentially easier to deal with if family issues are in line. If your home life is out of equilibrium, even traffic will send you into a tail spin. [/quote]
One of the best productivity programs I’ve seen recommends breaking your day up into “chunks”. 45 - 50 minutes of work, 10 - 15 min of “fuck off time” to keep your batteries charged. That’s how I roll and it’s pretty effective. I get a lot done and I still don’t feel super stressed out. I work 90 hours a week and about 40 - 50 of that is administrative - the rest is doing electric work. I like my system and I get a lot accomplished with out getting burned out.[/quote]
That’s pretty much what I do right now lol.[/quote]
Over achievers.
YOLO[/quote]
Just to be clear, I meant the strategy, not the 90 hour work week lol.[/quote]
A 90 hour work week is foolish. And hopefully slightly exaggerated :P[/quote]
It would definitely be foolish if I did it to make as much money in a work week as a CEO makes in the time it takes him/her to finish a cup of coffee.
90 hr/wk fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckk that.
80-90 hour work weeks aren’t that bad. I did 80-90 hours for six months. Partied at night, and work up at 3 to go the gym.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
80-90 hour work weeks aren’t that bad. I did 80-90 hours for six months. Partied at night, and work up at 3 to go the gym. [/quote]
Then I question what you mean by ‘work.’
I’ve worked 12 on 12 off (7 days a week) before and that shit sucks.
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
80-90 hour work weeks aren’t that bad. I did 80-90 hours for six months. Partied at night, and work up at 3 to go the gym. [/quote]
Then I question what you mean by ‘work.’
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Well, I enjoyed the job, had good colleagues, traveled to new and interesting places, and made a pile of money.
I know some people who earn low six figures and high figures pretty much sleep walking through their days. I once worked with an in-service coordinator nurse for a nursing home who spent most of his days playing pool, on FB, watching movies, playing games, schmoozing, and so on. He did not stay late, EVER, and is one of the least stressed employees I’ve ever met.
I know a foodservice director in a nursing and rehab home who earns just at the high five figures mark who spends half or more of his days on You Tube and leaves early almost everyday.
My mother had a very stressful job and earned high figures and then low six but seldom worked more than 40 hours per week.
A friend of mine is a multi-millionaire at 35 years old, was given a diamond and jewelry business and works four days a week. Granted he was GIVEN this business by his dad, but he keeps it up and running (and expanding) with about 28 hours per week of actual office time and some other time via computer and phone when not there, which is not stressful because this work consists of TALKING and simply checking things on a laptop.
I can go on with more examples, and granted, some cases are NOT to be emulated (eg, some putz lounging at work), but earning a middle class to upper middle class income can be done in the right fields or situations. I don’t know if people consider 75k to 125k as “serious money” but unless one is living in an astronomically priced area, Manhattan or San Diego, say, then they aren’t exactly suffering if they have some common sense and discipline.