[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Fluffer for sure. [/quote]
Only if its 40 hours MAX a week.
lmao.
Anyone that says they make real money and only work 40 hours a week (or in some cases didn’t work more than that for years prior) is a liar.
You don’t make real money only working 2080 a year. You just don’t. [/quote]
I’m not sure what you mean by this. There are plenty of people who make high five figures or low six figures working 40 to 50 hours per week. Those are not incomes leading to riches, but I’d say they are solidly middle class.
Now, moving upward, I don’t know many people earning what we call BIG BUCKS working only 40 hours per week unless, as you say, they put up some serious amount of hours in years past.
I wouldn’t apply “cupcake generation” to this situation as there has always been people not cut out for certain things, which is fine so long as they don’t become a burden on others, I believe.
And far worse than this, there have been men in modern times who simply DON’T WANT TO WORK–literally feel they are owed money for no work done–and I have the pleasure of working alongside one (how inspiring for me). 
I can’t see it as unreasonable to want employment that only requires forty hours of work. Some people who desire that know full well they won’t be big earners but are going after something else in life, perhaps more leisure or family time or whatever, just like highly driven people are willing to put up with large work weeks and all sorts of bulls-t that most people can’t deal with in order to command a high salary.
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I agree with Brick. In the past I’ve worked 37 hour weeks with very rare OT (which is x2) and been in the high 5 figures. It depends on your profession and the company you work for. It so happened that I could opt not to carry a pager and someone else got the extra pay happily for all sorts of OT.
Im in a different role and business unit so while I make more money, the hours have gone up too, but it goes in phases. It’s a bit slow now so I’m getting 35 hour weeks and time off on a lot of banked hours but when it picks up and I am on a bigger project my weeks will be much busier. Im planning another move that will give me more pay but won’t require a lot of extra hours because its in the strategic planning side of things without the timeline pressures but a lot more thinky.
OPs support and release always has to put in a lot of hours because the job demands contiguous chucks of people time. But they need to get time off in return if possible so they can have their wits for the next round. All of these jobs have ‘good’ pay.
Often times the folks putting in the long hours have problems with efficiency. A talented person can often get the same work done without the OT. And some just like to milk it or make heroes of themselves. But if you actually analyze the work done you can often see they are just not getting the work done in the time they should.
I would not want to work more than 45 hours averaged out. Fuck that I want to live. I’ll put in long hours sometimes when it’s called for but not everyday. I work hard but I’m smart and efficient. If you want quality work from your thinkers you need to limit the excessive hours and I strongly discourage it in my teams.
